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Post by Jack on Mar 30, 2016 15:04:38 GMT -5
He's obviously in it just for the money now. I'm guessing doing tours makes more money than actual album sales nowadays. Fair play if he just wants to rake in some more cash, but Christ, how hard is it to re-learn some old songs he hasn't played live before?
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Post by kennerado on Mar 30, 2016 15:10:39 GMT -5
I wont be going to see Noel again until he actually changes the setlist, I'm not talking about one or two swaps, I mean completely shaking it up. He has such an amazing selection of songs to choose from and he only bothers to use about 20 of them (Oasis). If he makes a change it's usually something like Half The World Away in for Talk Tonight or Wonderwall in for Whatever, it's so fucking boring. Why not do one surprise a night? That way he still gets to keep doing that greatest hits setlist that he feels he needs to do yet every night is unique to the audience in attendance, that wouldn't take much effort at all and would be refreshing. Once I've seen a Noel Gallagher setlist at the start of the tour I know when I get to see him it will be exactly the same and I can literally name every song coming next as I'm watching him (my girlfriend was impressed with that when we saw him in Manchester), it's ridiculous. Yep, After the first 2 songs on Tuesday night I yelled out every song that was coming up, it annoyed some people near me, lol. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 30, 2016 15:50:10 GMT -5
What does football interests even mean ffs Rambling on about Man City at every opportunity. It's actually quite obvious to be honest. He's a City fan and gets asked about them?! |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 30, 2016 16:27:48 GMT -5
Actually as far as remember everybody on here were excited about his new album so what he has done during the tour that he is boring now ?
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 30, 2016 16:41:12 GMT -5
Actually as far as remember everybody on here were excited about his new album so what he has done during the tour that he is boring now ? i dont think he's boring per se cos he's not but guess as fans particualry this tour we've heard the same stories/ anecdotes more frequently than anytime before. As fans we are hearing the same songs live without basically any variation even with solo material he's got scope to vary massively vary even if isn't gig to gig but leg to leg across 2 albums + b side material. Then the whole oasis back catalogue which now is hitting 50% of set its mainly the same go too songs from HFB tour when he's got well over 100 to choose from. Like say I'm happy as a whole always great interview, always great gigs but .. |
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Post by mattyo on Mar 30, 2016 16:47:09 GMT -5
Rambling on about Man City at every opportunity. It's actually quite obvious to be honest. He's a City fan and gets asked about them?! Yes, and so are hundreds of other pop stars and actors sports fans across the globe. Only one is a rent a quote though and quite to be heard every fucking time. |
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 30, 2016 16:57:12 GMT -5
He's a City fan and gets asked about them?! Yes, and so are hundreds of other pop stars and actors sports fans across the globe. Only one is a rent a quote though and quite to be heard every fucking time. obv you can argue that he says stuff that the press want to report.. which guess is a 50/50 line of being funny/copy worthy or rent a quote either way for him and causal works out well |
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Post by Rolo on Mar 30, 2016 17:12:38 GMT -5
He even repeats the things he says on stage now, when I saw him in Manchester, he told exactly the same jokes and things after songs a few days earlier in London.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 30, 2016 17:21:42 GMT -5
He's obviously in it just for the money now. I'm guessing doing tours makes more money than actual album sales nowadays. Fair play if he just wants to rake in some more cash, but Christ, how hard is it to re-learn some old songs he hasn't played live before? in it for the money yer probably right but how much more money does he really need what he has now you couldnt spend in 5 lifetimes unless you went to vegas put it all on red and black came in lol |
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 30, 2016 17:22:47 GMT -5
He even repeats the things he says on stage now, when I saw him in Manchester, he told exactly the same jokes and things after songs a few days earlier in London. i agree completely obv he fell flat in argentina when he asked if any mexicans in the crowd cos of that one  .. but yeah its very scripted / same things are said and when isn't its the 'same' its the same format he'll choose 1 person from the crowd to 'talk' to for the gig |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Mar 30, 2016 18:59:01 GMT -5
I just think the reason Noel's, and Oasis', live setlist is and was never that exciting or varied is because they're just not great musicians.......that's not to say, for instance, Noel isn't a great songwriter, though......
Take a band like Wilco, the drummer and lead guitarist are quite frankly too talented to play rock music......I'd bet both of them are jazz trained......there's some sort of saying like, 'people who aren't good enough to play jazz, play rock music instead' or something to that effect.
Oh, yeah, to my point, Wilco's setlists are always different from show to show.
God bless.
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Post by kennerado on Mar 30, 2016 20:11:44 GMT -5
Well at least in Melbourne he didn't do the "this song is for the Oasis fans" and then play a HFB song.
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Post by Jack on Mar 31, 2016 1:41:52 GMT -5
Was there any more updates on Noel recording in that secret studio?
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 31, 2016 2:36:05 GMT -5
The fact that Listen Up is the only treat on this second stint of the CY tour answers the thread question with a resounding YES.
I'm still looking forward to Bournemouth though, and naively I still hope for songs like Underneath the sky, Going Nowhere, and Some Might Say.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 31, 2016 2:58:34 GMT -5
After going to his show last night, IMO he has become boring with the same stupid setlist every night. Also another thing that annoys me is the fact he doesn't even play (most of) his own guitar solos anymore. Lazy and boring Noel Gallagher. Noel himself must get a bit bored by it, surely? Â I don't think he will ever change though. Â I don't see why he can't get the acoustic out and just play a couple of songs almost by request each night. Â I reckon he'd be more inclined to risk a bit if Gem was alongside him. Yeah, because Gem "Heavy Stereo" Archer is like, totally experimental, man! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 31, 2016 3:12:55 GMT -5
He's a City fan and gets asked about them?! Yes, and so are hundreds of other pop stars and actors sports fans across the globe. Only one is a rent a quote though and quite to be heard every fucking time. He answers questions I'm sure you'll find out many big football fans spend a lot of time talking about their own team,me included There's many things you can criticise Noel for,but this is ridiculous |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Mar 31, 2016 4:34:56 GMT -5
He's not star
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 31, 2016 6:36:16 GMT -5
I just think the reason Noel's, and Oasis', live setlist is and was never that exciting or varied is because they're just not great musicians.......that's not to say, for instance, Noel isn't a great songwriter, though...... Take a band like Wilco, the drummer and lead guitarist are quite frankly too talented to play rock music......I'd bet both of them are jazz trained......there's some sort of saying like, 'people who aren't good enough to play jazz, play rock music instead' or something to that effect. Oh, yeah, to my point, Wilco's setlists are always different from show to show. God bless. Bob Dylan has mixed it up for years and is an average musician at best. I ultimately comes down to boredom threshold, a thing Noel doesn't seem to have and the will to do it which he also doesn't seem to have. The stuff about not wanting fans to miss out on this or that is total bollocks. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 31, 2016 6:58:58 GMT -5
I just think the reason Noel's, and Oasis', live setlist is and was never that exciting or varied is because they're just not great musicians.......that's not to say, for instance, Noel isn't a great songwriter, though...... Take a band like Wilco, the drummer and lead guitarist are quite frankly too talented to play rock music......I'd bet both of them are jazz trained......there's some sort of saying like, 'people who aren't good enough to play jazz, play rock music instead' or something to that effect. Oh, yeah, to my point, Wilco's setlists are always different from show to show. God bless. Bob Dylan has mixed it up for years and is an average musician at best. I ultimately comes down to boredom threshold, a thing Noel doesn't seem to have and the will to do it which he also doesn't seem to have. The stuff about not wanting fans to miss out on this or that is total bollocks. Yeah, I think everyone has heard Talk Tonight, Wonderwall, etc. by now. That excuse ain't working anymore  |
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 31, 2016 7:15:31 GMT -5
Noel himself must get a bit bored by it, surely? I don't think he will ever change though. I don't see why he can't get the acoustic out and just play a couple of songs almost by request each night. I reckon he'd be more inclined to risk a bit if Gem was alongside him. Yeah, because Gem "Heavy Stereo" Archer is like, totally experimental, man! I didn't say experimental did I? Just that Noel may be willing to go a bit deeper into the Oasis catalogue if Gem was there. Even the version of What A Life he did with Gem for Radio 2 with echoes of Alone On A Rope to it was more interesting than a lot of his other live stuff. Not to mention that Gem is simply a better guitarist than Tim. |
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Post by frogerz on Mar 31, 2016 8:13:32 GMT -5
The average fan doesn't go to multiple gigs like most of us on here do. So if he didn't play DLBIA one night it would be weird to them.
I would love to see Noel mix up the set some more but around the world most people want some well known Oasis songs.
Loads of other bands don't mix up the set so Noel isn't in a minority. Still expecting some changes for the European leg though...
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Post by Rolo on Mar 31, 2016 8:50:49 GMT -5
He doesn't need to completely mix it up (although I think he should), he just needs to replace a song with a surprise every couple gigs, he can still leave the core of the set list in place if he wishes. Just do something different ffs!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 8:54:48 GMT -5
Clearly his act is exciting enough to generate 4 pages of discussion about it.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 31, 2016 9:18:30 GMT -5
Bob Dylan has mixed it up for years and is an average musician at best. I ultimately comes down to boredom threshold, a thing Noel doesn't seem to have and the will to do it which he also doesn't seem to have. The stuff about not wanting fans to miss out on this or that is total bollocks. Yeah, I think everyone has heard Talk Tonight, Wonderwall, etc. by now. That excuse ain't working anymore Funnily enough,I haven't heard Talk Tonight live yet (and HTWA as well I think...so he better not drop that one) |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 31, 2016 10:23:00 GMT -5
I just think the reason Noel's, and Oasis', live setlist is and was never that exciting or varied is because they're just not great musicians.......that's not to say, for instance, Noel isn't a great songwriter, though...... Take a band like Wilco, the drummer and lead guitarist are quite frankly too talented to play rock music......I'd bet both of them are jazz trained......there's some sort of saying like, 'people who aren't good enough to play jazz, play rock music instead' or something to that effect. Oh, yeah, to my point, Wilco's setlists are always different from show to show. God bless. Bob Dylan has mixed it up for years and is an average musician at best. Coincidentally, Dylan has maintained an almost static setlist since October 2013. Go on a Dylan forum and ask about 'the set' if you want to open a bigger can of worms than the usual Liam vs. Noel discussions you see here. |
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.. but yeah its very scripted / same things are said and when isn't its the 'same' its the same format he'll choose 1 person from the crowd to 'talk' to for the gig 
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