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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2023 14:41:14 GMT -5
He sure loves dull plodding drums don't he? It's making me desperately seek out some isolated drum tracks from Alan White as respite.
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2023 14:31:52 GMT -5
Jordan Peterson is an idiot's idea of a smart person. Yer Da, with a thesaurus and an army of old men and incels. Surprised it took this long for him to become a laughing-stock, but I suppose that's just the world we live in now. Was reading about that c*nt Andrew Tate today, reminded me of that he's just an illiterate version of that 'Kermit being squeezed in the balls' creep Peterson. The pair of them are idols for lonely, pathetic insecure men. |
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2023 14:02:20 GMT -5
Hate to say it, but I found this one to be a real snoozer, and reminded me way too much of Heathen Chemistry from a songwriting and production standpoint. The best part was his little high note before the chorus. Pretty Boy has a way better hook in my opinion, and still has that elevating Noel melody that we all love. Creatively it kinda makes sense after a long wait (and what he is going through personally) to return to familiar sounds and themes. I love a good Noel ballad, and think no matter the era, his best songs shine with just him and guitar - but I personally really like WBTM and thought Holmes was a prefect 90's survivor creative foil to Noel. That record has scope in songwriting and production that a lot the Gallaghers are missing. Big picture, my biggest worry for the record is that this was produced by Noel and Strangeboy - we have over two decades worth of material now and frankly I just find their style muddy and dull - nothing bites, and the guitars hardly ever rev. Very MOR, but unlike a lot of MOR records, Noel isn't a producer, or mixer full-time and you can definitely tell. Oasis was always mid heavy, but Owen had personality and Spike is a industry pro. IDK at least Sardy got drums to sound good? Lucky I listen to Noel for the songs, and after being a fan for so long kinda reasonably know what to expect from him, and this one is "nice", but not really memorable. Definitely something he could write in his sleep. In summary my feelings in a forced restaurant metaphor - I go into Noel's joint, knowing I'm probably getting "the usual". WBTM was like throwing a special up on the board - it went outside my expectations and exceeded them to and extent (probably just because this place NEVER does specials). Hearing Easy Now, is like going back and not only being a little disappointed that the special board is gone, but the ingredients for "the usual" are kinda "meh". Noel hasn't put out and outright bad record in two decades, so I have faith that the album will pull through. Good to see you back, I wish you to post regularly again! |
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2023 7:51:25 GMT -5
Wow, massive step back from Who Built The Moon.
A ball achingly dull tune. Awfully plodding and mid tempo.
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2023 18:27:38 GMT -5
Nowhere in that post did I mention single. We were talking about singles. I really don't think it matters mate. |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2023 16:44:59 GMT -5
I'm going to be controversial but I like Pretty Boy much better. It's just a vibe/mood tune for me that doesn't sound like the sort of thing Noel has done before. Yeah I do wish he'd taken it further, and it seems more like an idea of a song that worryingly would need a producer to tell him so, but it's a song in the right ballpark. It's a throwaway tune at worst but folk ranking it on the terrible scale with the likes of Good Rebel must be on something. Can't help but think the video scared a lot of insecure guys away! I don't remember that Good Rebel was the single. Nowhere in that post did I mention single. |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2023 16:20:23 GMT -5
ITHOTM is ten times the track that Pretty Boy is. Banger. I'm going to be controversial but I like Pretty Boy much better. It's just a vibe/mood tune for me that doesn't sound like the sort of thing Noel has done before. Yeah I do wish he'd taken it further, and it seems more like an idea of a song that worryingly would need a producer to tell him so, but it's a song in the right ballpark. It's a throwaway tune at worst but folk ranking it on the terrible scale with the likes of Good Rebel must be on something. Can't help but think the video scared a lot of insecure guys away! |
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Post by matt on Jan 15, 2023 16:00:42 GMT -5
Silly season on Live4ever as ever, usually happens pre-album but fuelled by a tabloid gossipy divorce. It's a free for all.
But allegedly, Sara got suspicious of Noel's obsession at having the buttoned end of the duvet at the head of the bed... one night, she woke up to find him lying beside her sneakily munching on a pork pie. Absolutely furious, she tore the buttoned end open to find a smorgasbord of meat feast snacks, cakes and crisps hidden in the duvet. Never forgave him.
Hey, it still makes more sense than the bollocks James Hargreaves comes up with.
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Post by matt on Jan 15, 2023 5:04:45 GMT -5
Liam's right, it's dog shit. Worst single Noel has ever released. Wasn't fussed when it came out, but now I'd put it at 'decent' range. I think it's better than most of his first and second albums. |
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 20:13:52 GMT -5
Hahahahaha I came back on here to see what the reaction to this would be… noel having an orgy with his band mates led to divorce 🤣🤣🤣🤣good stuff ppl Hang on, when Noel said in 2011 he wanted his band to be like Fleetwood Mac, I thought... |
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 19:56:40 GMT -5
Man if only Oasis did something as ridiculous and over the top as this in their later albums. It's so unfair on Be Here Now that it gets lumped in with the joyless albums that followed, stick this on a tracklist on a later album and it would be an epic highlight.
This is what I mean by latter Oasis lacking ambition. It wasn't necessarily an experimental sound or stylistic change that was lacking (although would have been incredible if they'd had at leas tried), it was the lack of big epic songs like this. Noel put away the mental guitar solos and they became more serious and dull.
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 19:14:51 GMT -5
There's odd bits and pieces of the Mustique demos I like, as with above, the intro to DYKWIM. But I wouldn't replace it with the actual album. I like the chaos of that album.
I think there was a bit of a myth around the Mustique demos as if it would uncover a great album. Reality is that despite stripping it back, the songs are what they are - not great but neither are they the disaster that the critics think, but a very capable third album that doesn't measure up to the first two albums or string of b-sides. There is no shame in that however.
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 14:14:47 GMT -5
maybe we can stop with all the speculation as we don't know shit about their personal lives and this is not the comment section of the Daily Mail or the s*n Thanks Yeah… Totally… An open forum frequented by the biggest oasis fans on the planet discussing major news must be a shocking development for you. Essentially every thread has wild opinions and comments with little to no personal knowledge about the topic. Expecting or hoping a subject like this to have no speculation is delusional. It's a music forum, not f**king Popbitch! |
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 12:59:11 GMT -5
I am talking about about kids. From my point of view, with overpopulation a big concern and the impacts of climate change beginning to be felt globally, more people ought to consider abstaining from having children on moral principle. I don't see the world becoming carbon neutral anytime soon. My generations children will massively suffer in 50 years, if not sooner. I don't wish to contribute to the problem. An easy choice. Blimey, this thread took a surreal turn. |
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Post by matt on Jan 14, 2023 9:22:19 GMT -5
Calling it now: the “gut” in INGUT stands for Get Us There. Already called it weeks ago Let's Guess! "If Nothing Get Us There" Wrong. It's called I Now Gyrate Udders Tremendously. |
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2023 19:49:51 GMT -5
Sail On A Dream… Blue Moon Rising Black Star Dancing We're On Our Way Now This Is the Place Flying on the Ground Rattling Rose Come On Outside Evil Flower Wandering Star Right now Pretty Boy would land between BMR and BSD. This is almost exactly my ranking too. Certainly the top three. Had a listen to Sail On recently which elevated it to the top, it's dripping in melancholy and a sense of yearning. Beautiful little song, somehow only Noel can reach those kinds of depths for me. And Pretty Boy has grown on me, it came up on an indie playlist and stood out amongst a lot of the beige tracks. It's not great, but I like it much better than most of his songs on his first two albums. |
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2023 19:36:23 GMT -5
P.S. Hope he gets a new partner soon. Ladies are always a big inspiration for Noel's songwriting*.
*See Slide Away, Talk Tonight, Wonderwall, If I Had A Gun, Riverman, and of course, the big smash hit we've all been waiting for, She Is Love.
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2023 19:32:37 GMT -5
Jeez, massive shock. She was his muse, inspired so many of his songs these last 20 years.
We're all fans of him, so best wishes to him and his family.
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2023 18:02:26 GMT -5
The rework of Pride sounds pretty crap to be honest. I liked it, mainly for Bono's vocals. He properly reigns it in, and if there's something he hasn't done enough of in recent years, it's a bit of restraint in the vocals. His lower register croon that made the majority of their 90s songs has been massively under utilised since 2000. |
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 18:36:42 GMT -5
The new re-imagined album sounds promising. Like the clips I’ve heard so far. Now at the stage of this being more preferable than some desperate Ryan Tedder produced MOR attempt to appeal to youngsters. Fascinated to see obscure songs like If God Will Send Angels, Dirty Day, Stories For Boys on there, not ones I'd expect, but can't wait to hear how they redo these. And no bad thing to hear personal favourite Stay too. |
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 16:17:05 GMT -5
This is a great cover….. Happy new year. I love Patti Smith's version of Until The End of the World. And welcome back. |
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 13:13:16 GMT -5
Wasn't Noel a fan of Spongebob in the 90s? Right, you are Noel: "There's one on the Cartoon Network called Sponge Bug Square Pants! [Sic] It's this little sponge bug and he's got chocolate square shorts and he lives at the bottom of the sea and it's about his adventures. Fucking mega! That's the best thing about having a kid. Legally, they can't touch me for watching cartoons all day. I sit there with me daughter and she can't even focus on it yet and I'm going, 'It's fucking brilliant!"' That puts a different spin on Noel’s deadpan reaction to Liam’s premiere attendance. He can only have been jealous. |
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 13:10:21 GMT -5
See some bloke from boy band Blue is guilty of racial abuse.
Reminds me of the time I saw them on TV performing on a Sunday morning cooking show a few months back. Like all boy bands over 30, they looked like blokes from the finance sector doing karaoke. Pathetic.
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 7:17:22 GMT -5
^ This kind of thinking infects people's comments on forums like this all the time though. And some people seem to continually want to rake over endlessly exactly the same alternate track list possibilities. You know the thread , and comments: "Noel should have put Acquiesce / Masterplan / pass me down the wine [insert your favourite here] on the final running order. " Maybe you can make a case for a couple of these, but I just don't think something like adding Boy with the blues would have made DOYS appreciably stronger. This song from the thread title isn't necessarily better than most of the songs on DBTT, and if Noel had already decided on a quota of rock ballads it would have meant substituting it for a peppier rock song, and it's very important there is a decent mix of the two genres (rockers and ballads) to balance Oasis CDs out. Also the fact these are lesser heard tunes, this one is never played on the radio, means they largely go unheralded, people seem to convince themselves the tunes are lost classics which deserve inordinate amounts of praise they really don't merit. I think WPTWOTWOMS, and Boy with blues are similar, they had time taken over their arrangement but don't feel finished to me. Both song's refrains aren't so memorable and so neither adds up to a satisfying whole. Both are good not great, perfect for Bside material. I agree, I don’t think any of these songs would make the latter Oasis albums substantially better, only marginally if they are replacing the truly god awful songs. Similar argument to having Record Machine or Stop The Clocks on DBTT or DOYS. They’re all decent songs, but they wouldn’t transform the albums. They’d need truly great songs and Oasis didn’t have them back then. I do think going into the unchartered territory of experimenting would have given great songs around this time, something akin to the David Holmes approach of building a song from the ground up, making it multi-textured and cinematic and then adding vocal melody on top. I don’t think it would sound like Who Built The Moon but it’s an approach that would have conjured up interesting results for Oasis. The novelty in seeking new sounds is what inspires great music, not relying on the complacency of tried and tested methods. Noel’s songwriting was still capable of greatness but complacency around the mid 2000s just left fans with an attitude of ‘meh, good enough’. |
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Post by matt on Jan 11, 2023 16:09:00 GMT -5
Everything hilarious about the Gallaghers summed up in that one line:
"When asked what he thought of Liam attending the premiere of The Spongebob Squarepants Movie recently, Noel simply says, "No comment"."
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