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Post by glider on Jun 3, 2016 20:38:52 GMT -5
Might as well kickoff this thread as U2 just tweeted this! Already sounding like they're on the right track!  |
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Post by Manualex on Jun 3, 2016 23:22:01 GMT -5
Might as well kickoff this thread as U2 just tweeted this! Already sounding like they're on the right track! Let me in the sound Let me in the sound Let me in the sound My God I'm going down I don't wanna drown now Let me in the sound |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jun 3, 2016 23:47:42 GMT -5
Well, it can't be any worse than Songs of Innocence.
Right?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 4, 2016 1:23:44 GMT -5
Yawn
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 2:31:10 GMT -5
This ain't your sister's A Head Full Of Dreams boyo! |
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 2:34:45 GMT -5
It's sounding alot like 'The Fly' meets Pop. Industrial Rock U2 hopefully making a badass return!
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 4, 2016 4:43:26 GMT -5
I'd quite like U2 to make a great album again if I'm honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 11:31:06 GMT -5
Well, it can't be any worse than Songs of Innocence. Right? Songs of Innocence was their best since Pop, only Volcano is really bad. |
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 11:35:49 GMT -5
Well, it can't be any worse than Songs of Innocence. Right? Songs of Innocence was their best since Pop, only Volcano is really bad. I rank post-Pop albums as such: All That You Can't Leave Behind Songs Of Innocence How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb No Line On the Horizon |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jun 4, 2016 13:26:16 GMT -5
Well, it can't be any worse than Songs of Innocence. Right? Songs of Innocence was their best since Pop, only Volcano is really bad. Eh I always found it a bit of a dud. There's no denying that it has its moments, particularly Sleep Like a Baby Tonight, but bringing in mainstream producers like Paul Epworth and especially Ryan Tedder (I've nothing against Danger Mouse though, he's great) only made the songs sound like half-cooked post-Britpop Coldplay knockoffs. It's basically a more moderate example of the A Head Full of Dreams disaster effect: joining the mainstream doesn't always work. SOI is still a million miles ahead of AHFOD, though. Here's how I'd rank the U2 albums of this century: No Line on the Horizon All That You Can't Leave Behind Songs of Innocence How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (Actually come to think of it, U2 could have made something every bit as bad as AHFOD had they finished that album with will.I.am. (barf) thank fuck that never came to fruition) |
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 4, 2016 15:01:17 GMT -5
They need to stop trying to produce a popular, hit album and just do what they're good at,that is producing great music. You get the feeling they're trying to hard to still be top of the charts. SoI kind of hinted at a return to that but fell well short. Still easily the best live band in the world though.
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Post by matt on Jun 4, 2016 15:59:21 GMT -5
Might as well kickoff this thread as U2 just tweeted this! Already sounding like they're on the right track! Hmm, The Edge is biting his nails there - must be thinking 'fuck, we need to water this down with Ryan Tedder for the MOR market'. I hear Andy Barlow from the electronic duo Lamb is producing this. But if they start pissing around and bringing in MOR producers like Paul Epworth and Ryan Tedder, the results are just as ever going to be an unfocused mess. It's a big problem with post 2000 U2. Once they start panicking and dabbling with other producers, their albums veer off the original intention and their desperate need for a radio song ends up with some horrific tunes. I'd personally love to see Brian Eno back at the helm. He's said in recent interviews he'd love to see them go back to the risk taking of Zooropa, and fair play to him, his direction of No Line On The Horizon I thought was working before they panicked and got Will.I.Am and Steve Lillywhite in to help them put pop songs on that record, resulting in the horrific songs I'll Go Crazy, Stand Up Comedy and Get On Your Boots. Those songs absolutely destroyed what should have been a meditative and ethereal album. They should have kept in tune with the entire album and had songs like this in the middle, rather than whipping them off the track list for a radio song at the last minute. B-|https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRL9FbJXVXM |
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 15:59:58 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the few that prefer the generic nature on some tracks of Atomic Bomb. I like Vertigo, Original of the Species, Miracle Drug, City of Blinding Lights and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. Never understood the disdain for those tracks but I can why the rest of the album is held is low regard. It's overly compressed and abit overproduced (especially Miracle Drug, but idc I love that song).
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Post by matt on Jun 4, 2016 16:07:24 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the few that prefer the generic nature on some tracks of Atomic Bomb. I like Vertigo, Original of the Species, Miracle Drug, and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. Never understood the disdain for those tracks but I can why the rest of the album is held is low regard. It's overly compressed and abit overproduced (especially Miracle Drug, but idc I love that song). Don't get me wrong, I like a good few of the songs on that album, but there's quite a lot of duds in there too and it isn't a focused album at all. There's classic U2 on there without them resorting to parody - which they did later on. There still an excellent band but only when they're writing songs while not thinking about how many people will love them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 16:07:36 GMT -5
No Line On The Horizon
Songs Of Innocence / All That You Can't Leave Behind
How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 16:09:01 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the few that prefer the generic nature on some tracks of Atomic Bomb. I like Vertigo, Original of the Species, Miracle Drug, and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. Never understood the disdain for those tracks but I can why the rest of the album is held is low regard. It's overly compressed and abit overproduced (especially Miracle Drug, but idc I love that song). Don't get me wrong, I like a good few of the songs on that album, but there's quite a lot of duds in there too and it isn't a focused album at all. There's classic U2 on there without them resorting to parody - which they did later on. There still an excellent band but only when they're writing songs while not thinking about how many people will love them. Oh yeah I agree, I see why people don't like the album. The duds outweigh the better tunes and unfortunately the shimmering guitar effects and reverb overload on the production hurts the album the most, alongside some of the songwriting. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 4, 2016 16:16:25 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the few that prefer the generic nature on some tracks of Atomic Bomb. I like Vertigo, Original of the Species, Miracle Drug, and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. Never understood the disdain for those tracks but I can why the rest of the album is held is low regard. It's overly compressed and abit overproduced (especially Miracle Drug, but idc I love that song). Don't get me wrong, I like a good few of the songs on that album, but there's quite a lot of duds in there too and it isn't a focused album at all. There's classic U2 on there without them resorting to parody - which they did later on. There still an excellent band but only when they're writing songs while not thinking about how many people will love them. Yep. Miracle Drug is great and Sleep Like a Baby is one of their best songs since Pop, I also quite like Invisible. They're very frustrating at the minute, you can hear they've still got it in parts but they also seem to be riddled with self doubt. Just record the song and release it without all the fucking about with producers and tinkering. |
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 16:27:00 GMT -5
U2's issue is that they are at a crossroads - become a novelty act like the Stones, or continue to output new music way past their prime? These guys are in their 50s - mid 50s like Adam, so I'm sure they don't have a desire to push the envelope whatsoever. They proved themselves with Joshua Tree, War, Achtung Baby, etc. and at this point are just making new stuff for their own joy of music I believe.
As for song production, they've had an issue with spending too much time on each track. The beauty of Achtung Baby and Zooropa is that they just went into the studio with what they felt with, and it evolved fairly quickly. Doing this with albums is hit and miss but has seen much success (ala What's the Story Morning Glory, which was recorded in less than 2 weeks I believe). I just want to hear awesome, guitar driven tracks from them again with an electronic/industrial tinge to them. The edginess (no pun intended) of tunes like 'The Fly' stem from this sound particularly.
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Post by Headmaster on Jun 4, 2016 16:34:36 GMT -5
Songs Of Innocence isn't that terrible, it's a better album than both NLOTH and HTDAAB.
I hate HTDAAB by the way, I bought it at the time and hated it with a passion, still don't know how it won thousands of Grammys, it's one of the reasons why I belive Grammy doens't mean shit.
ATYCLB>>>>>>>>>>>SOI>>>>>>>>>>>>NLOTH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HTDAAB
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Post by matt on Jun 4, 2016 16:46:09 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I like a good few of the songs on that album, but there's quite a lot of duds in there too and it isn't a focused album at all. There's classic U2 on there without them resorting to parody - which they did later on. There still an excellent band but only when they're writing songs while not thinking about how many people will love them. Yep. Miracle Drug is great and Sleep Like a Baby is one of their best songs since Pop, I also quite like Invisible. They're very frustrating at the minute, you can hear they've still got it in parts but they also seem to be riddled with self doubt. Just record the song and release it without all the fucking about with producers and tinkering. I'm surprised a song that slated the Catholic Church on Sleep Like A Baby Tonight was allowed on that album, considering how safe they have been previously. It sounded exactly like a Pop song, it tackled a tough subject but never got preachy about it. Bono is brilliant at lyrics when he challenges himself but on traditional pop topics like love, he's the height of naffness. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 4, 2016 16:52:37 GMT -5
Yep. Miracle Drug is great and Sleep Like a Baby is one of their best songs since Pop, I also quite like Invisible. They're very frustrating at the minute, you can hear they've still got it in parts but they also seem to be riddled with self doubt. Just record the song and release it without all the fucking about with producers and tinkering. I'm surprised a song that slated the Catholic Church on Sleep Like A Baby Tonight was allowed on that album, considering how safe they have been previously. It sounded exactly like a Pop song, it tackled a tough subject but never got preachy about it. Bono is brilliant at lyrics when he challenges himself but on traditional pop topics like love, he's the height of naffness. Raised By Wolves and Cedarwood Road were also pretty good and translated well live, pretty heavy, The Miracle also acted as a good opener. Sleep Like a Baby is really great though, subject matter and song. |
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Post by matt on Jun 4, 2016 16:53:03 GMT -5
U2's issue is that they are at a crossroads - become a novelty act like the Stones, or continue to output new music way past their prime? These guys are in their 50s - mid 50s like Adam, so I'm sure they don't have a desire to push the envelope whatsoever. They proved themselves with Joshua Tree, War, Achtung Baby, etc. and at this point are just making new stuff for their own joy of music I believe. As for song production, they've had an issue with spending too much time on each track. The beauty of Achtung Baby and Zooropa is that they just went into the studio with what they felt with, and it evolved fairly quickly. Doing this with albums is hit and miss but has seen much success (ala What's the Story Morning Glory, which was recorded in less than 2 weeks I believe). I just want to hear awesome, guitar driven tracks from them again with an electronic/industrial tinge to them. The edginess (no pun intended) of tunes like 'The Fly' stem from this sound particularly. Bowie still pushed the envelope to the very end, and acts like Radiohead still do it, so there's no reason U2 can't. U2 were great at reinventions, that's why I love them so much - the post punk anger of their youth, the ambient contemplative era and then the electronic industrial inspired darkness of the 90s. A lot to get your teeth stuck into. And I think when they went MOR darlings at the millennium, it was successful - I love a lot of Leave Behind, nothing challenging mind and certainly their weakest 'reinvention' but still brilliantly written tunes. |
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Post by matt on Jun 4, 2016 16:56:12 GMT -5
I'm surprised a song that slated the Catholic Church on Sleep Like A Baby Tonight was allowed on that album, considering how safe they have been previously. It sounded exactly like a Pop song, it tackled a tough subject but never got preachy about it. Bono is brilliant at lyrics when he challenges himself but on traditional pop topics like love, he's the height of naffness. Raised By Wolves and Cedarwood Road were also pretty good and translated well live, pretty heavy, The Miracle also acted as a good opener. Sleep Like a Baby is really great though, subject matter and song. I think the album version of Raised By Wolves is badly produced - that poor vocal effect they get on Bonos voice is cheap. Doesn't contain the anger and aggression it should - but then again Bono can't bellow out like he used to as he tore his vocal chords to shreds during the Joshua Tree tour. The hushed sinister vocal tones of most of the 90s isn't just a deliberate change in approach of his voice, he was pretty much forced to adopt a different style in the years making those early 90s albums. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 4, 2016 17:34:08 GMT -5
U2 still kicks ass live. They are just giant pussy heads in the studio.
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Post by glider on Jun 4, 2016 17:41:33 GMT -5
U2 still kicks ass live. They are just giant pussy heads in the studio. Hey! Only I as a Stone Roses fan should have that level of faith in new material from them! Walk on!  |
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