Case in point is this thread. I still keep seeing posts that, aside from the token 'yeah he done wrong did Tom', but Serge is still getting more hatred than him. Again this just further proves the skewed morals of the fanbase. Talk about getting priorities all wrong.

It's not even a difficult thing to do, as there's no artist/person debate here. I've just heard his album and its right up there with James Hargreaves naff and cringe worthy stuff! Genuinely terrible stuff, but even if he was somebody of talent and considered an 'artist', majority of folk wouldn't let it pass. And he has to be thankful because the fall out would be so so much greater and the spotlight would shed much more debate about it. As a frontman, he should never enjoy public acclaim as if he's a troubled soul/hero when inflicting that level of violence towards a women and her daughter. The only thing that he's sorry about is that he was caught.

It's general whataboutery though. I think most reasonably minded folk would see Serge as perfectly justified to do what he did. The fact Tom Meighan fans counter accuse Serge and fling greater insults at him than Tom for something that is a no brainer just serves to trivialise the whole thing.

Aside from Prisoner of Azkaban directed by the great Alfonso Cuaron, the remaining films were bland. No real artistic ingenuity to them, pretty much 'by the numbers' blockbusters but like the book, Azkaban had a darkness to it that separated it from the other films.

I saw an interesting video that claims the studio decided on 'director for hire' David Yates merely because he could turn around production quickly due to his competent if bland and unspectacular filmmaking style. Bearing in mind he was working with child/teenage actors going through each of their academic years, I guess they couldn't afford to spend 2 years on each film (which they did with Azkaban) that the real artists crave.

It's all relative though isn't it?

There's levels. I mean, it's worth arguing against when somebody is getting cancelled for airing one dodgy opinion in public. But it's another thing entirely when violently throwing about a women in front of a little girl. That's one thing his blinded fans never talk about, it's all about his partner and how she's forgiven him and it doesn't matter anymore (courtesy of idiots like James Hargreaves) but no consideration for the child, who regardless of the abuser and abused reconciliation, can't possibly comprehend and reflect on these things properly. Very often, it's only until later in life does such trauma become apparent. The impact that has on a kid is terrifying.

The scale of the abuse against his partner is enough. He's no better than your typical intimidating loutish thug and he always played up to that pathetic image, so consistent with his behaviour. Rather than folk complaining about the lack of publicity, the bloke should be lucky he got the chance to make his sad sack album in the first place.

Didn't say they were getting through it, but I think a few is enough over the course of a career when there's endless artists to choose from.

What's more, they just further show up the poor Beatle/Lennon imitations of latter Oasis and Beady Eye (Who Feels Love, Born On A Different Cloud, Let There Be Love, half of Dig Out Your Soul, most of Beady Eye).

Genuinely baffling.

Getting rid of Alan White still defies any logic or sense.

Noel could do with him for his solo career, he might lift a lot of the songs from the plodding drabness.

Oh believe me, it's out there. Absolute filth. So I've heard.

Well that was fantastic. One of the best snooker finals in a while. Top quality from both players, Brecel one of the most entertaining player in a long while and the last time I criticise Selby (massive serving of humble pie here).

Just hope it's no flash in the pan from Luca, came out of nowhere to win this so hope it kickstarts more success.

Thought so too, happily see Selby win if he's playing snooker like that. Credit to Brecel, think he's really dragging the standards out for himself and Selby.

I try not to be critical of him but it really is awful stuff watching Selby. Was willing to give him leeway but that semi final was the worst semi final I've ever seen. Even with a chunk of a lead, I don't trust Brecel to beat him. Saw it with Higgins when he opened with a four frame lead, I just knew it would be clawed back through gutter play.

Can only hope that Brecel's reeling off frame after frame against all odds is a habit that comes into play in this final. Good signs for just now though, Brecel cueing so well and cleaning up quickly without struggling....