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Post by tiger40 on Feb 13, 2021 14:28:15 GMT -5
Despite the dud tracks on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants I do think that it's a shame that the album didn't sell too well because it does have some good songs on it. But I think that maybe Oasis should have had a break for a bit longer after Be Here Now and then come back with a better album than what they did.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2021 16:28:06 GMT -5
Despite the dud tracks on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants I do think that it's a shame that the album didn't sell too well because it does have some good songs on it. But I think that maybe Oasis should have had a break for a bit longer after Be Here Now and then come back with a better album than what they did. Try telling 17-18 year old me that! |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 13, 2021 18:40:48 GMT -5
sotsog doesnt have a bad song on the scale that other albums do have bad songs, yeah certian tracks are weak-ish, certian songs on other albums are weak and some are better, for a band that released 7 records the 1st 3 were mega, this was amazing the 3 that followed were in the same ball park
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 13, 2021 18:53:14 GMT -5
gas panic to where did it all go wrong to sunday morning call is the best progression of songs on any oasis album. fight me Second half of WTSMG is unbeatable |
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Post by nutsngum on Feb 13, 2021 18:59:28 GMT -5
I'd add hangover as well from the intense 4 year period of 1994 - 1997. I could be wrong and this might be bordering on offensive to some fans but I'd suggest the departure of Bonehead and Guigs at that time pales into insignificance compared to the fact Oasis were no longer the most talked about band in the world, Be Here Now had not lived up to expectation and that the band would transition into the next phase of their career where they were now established which comes with a different set of rules and challenges. Oasis is Liam and Noel. We can humour Bonehead and say he held it together or say he's the best bar chord player ever but let's face it, anyone could do that role. If the stories are true that he was causing loads of unnecessary shit in the mansion recording SOTSOG too then it was probably best he left. I don't have issue with him now coming back into Liams world and having a bit of time in the sun (who doesn't relive their former glorys at that age) but I do wish he would drop the really fake put on Liam-like attitude. It doesn't suit him. Absolutely could not disagree more about Bonehead. Seems a fairly down-to-earth bloke. He's just Mancunian. Never hogged the limelight, was the glue more often than not that held the band together. Underrated musically. Liked a drink, and some accounts say he could go a bit wild when on it but then again we're talking about Oasis, here. |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 13, 2021 20:25:59 GMT -5
Sunday Morning Call drags a bit, I think the chorus goes on for too long, but it is a great track when you're in the mood for it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2021 20:26:05 GMT -5
sotsog doesnt have a bad song on the scale that other albums do have bad songs, yeah certian tracks are weak-ish, certian songs on other albums are weak and some are better, for a band that released 7 records the 1st 3 were mega, this was amazing the 3 that followed were in the same ball park People like to slag 3 tunes immediately. - Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is - Little James - I Can See A Liar When doing early promo for SOTSOG on Oasis mini holiday festival tour around eastern USA and Toronto, Noel told the press that this album is almost where he wants the Oasis sound to be at but it does contain to shit tracks. Ever since those comments it’s impacted many people’s perceptions of PYMWYMI and ICSAL. Fair or foul that is what happened. I don’t mind the former at all despite lack of a second verse. Wish it was played on the SOTSOG tour. Always dug the atmosphere of Little James. Yeah the lyrics are cheese but that was the point of the song! Never was a big fan of ICSAL. The vocals bother me. Cool guitar solo. Should Let’s All Make Believe have been on the album? Probably. Would it have altered its fate commercially? No. Oasis wasn’t the coolest band in all the land anymore. Times change. People change. Trends change. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2021 20:28:07 GMT -5
Oasis is Liam and Noel. We can humour Bonehead and say he held it together or say he's the best bar chord player ever but let's face it, anyone could do that role. If the stories are true that he was causing loads of unnecessary shit in the mansion recording SOTSOG too then it was probably best he left. I don't have issue with him now coming back into Liams world and having a bit of time in the sun (who doesn't relive their former glorys at that age) but I do wish he would drop the really fake put on Liam-like attitude. It doesn't suit him. Absolutely could not disagree more about Bonehead. Seems a fairly down-to-earth bloke. He's just Mancunian. Never hogged the limelight, was the glue more often than not that held the band together. Underrated musically. Liked a drink, and some accounts say he could go a bit wild when on it but then again we're talking about Oasis, here. Yeah........Noel kicking Bonehead out of the band (or whatever they wanna call it) for partying was in my eyes ironic. Like you said, this was OASIS. Drinking. Partying. Madness. That was their bag. |
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Post by powerage09 on Feb 13, 2021 21:17:24 GMT -5
I think for Bonehead it geuinely was about being with the lads and having fun. He has said himself it stopped being fun when recording SOTSOG and so he binned it off. In my opinion it's great he is still mates with Liam and plays with this band. I didn't see him with Oasis but is fantastic everytime he steps out with Liam. I'm not sure I follow on the Liam-Like attitude. Bonehead seems a fairly straight forward, down to earth guy, very uncomplicated. Enormous respect for the Oasis legacy and achievements to the point of taking great pride in it. Liam and Noel at times almost seem to play it "too cool for school" which is part of their image though Noel seems to be softening a little as he gentley slips into full Paul Weller and Jonny Marr slippers. This is the point in the Oasis story when they went from a band to a brand. That's what I was referring to in an earlier post when I said that they were now established and that carries a new set of rules with it. Always bound to happen with a band of that size, playing football stadiums on their second album tour cycle is madness. I know that for some people those changes kill bands and I respect that, for me it cemented their position at the top table with rock royalty. Premier League stuff. |
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Post by World71R on Feb 13, 2021 22:20:53 GMT -5
gas panic to where did it all go wrong to sunday morning call is the best progression of songs on any oasis album. fight me I'd go with Fuckin' in the Bushes through Who Feels Love? from that same album. It gives you a taste of a little bit of everything that Noel was messing with for the new vision of Oasis Mk.II and it all lands really well. Roll With It through Don't Look Back in Anger on WTSMG are hugely important when you talk about the history of the band's success. I love Bag it Up through Waiting for the Rapture on DOYS. Even though Muffins is a clunker, DOYS has a really nice feel and flow to it from start to finish. Supersonic through Cigs & Alc is a great run too. |
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Post by brighterday1251 on Feb 13, 2021 22:25:30 GMT -5
gas panic to where did it all go wrong to sunday morning call is the best progression of songs on any oasis album. fight me I'd go with Fuckin' in the Bushes through Who Feels Love? from that same album. It gives you a taste of a little bit of everything that Noel was messing with for the new vision of Oasis Mk.II and it all lands really well. Roll With It through Don't Look Back in Anger on WTSMG are hugely important when you talk about the history of the band's success. I love Bag it Up through Waiting for the Rapture on DOYS. Even though Muffins is a clunker, DOYS has a really nice feel and flow to it from start to finish. Supersonic through Cigs & Alc is a great run too. Love all thee triplets and would also add "Some Might Say-Cast No Shadow-She's Electric". Epic, heartfelt, and a some humor. Great representation of the band! |
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Post by Aman on Feb 14, 2021 8:41:10 GMT -5
Hard to top Supersonic - BIOD - C&A really.
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 14, 2021 8:57:55 GMT -5
Columbia-Supersonic-Bring It On Down SCYHO-Songbird-LBL (fuckin HC  ) |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 14, 2021 9:22:00 GMT -5
Oasis' best run is definitely somewhere on Morning Glory. Just depends where your taste is.
- Roll With it / Wonderwall / Don't Look in Anger
- Some Might Say / Cast No Shadow / She's Electric
- Cast No Shadow / She's Electric / Morning Glory
- She's Electric / Morning Glory / Champagne Supernova
Just take your pick. It's like a greatest hits.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 14, 2021 13:48:34 GMT -5
Despite the dud tracks on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants I do think that it's a shame that the album didn't sell too well because it does have some good songs on it. But I think that maybe Oasis should have had a break for a bit longer after Be Here Now and then come back with a better album than what they did. Try telling 17-18 year old me that! Oh I get what you're saying but I just think that Oasis should have taken a longer break between (What's The Story) Morning Glory? and Be Here Now and a longer break between Be Here Now and Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 14, 2021 13:54:19 GMT -5
As for Little James well it was Liam's first attempt at writing a song and I'm just glad that his song writing has improved dramatically.
As for Bonehead well yes, his drinking is what Oasis do but I seem to remember Noel banning all drinking alcohol during the recording of the Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants sessions.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 14, 2021 14:01:51 GMT -5
As for Little James well it was Liam's first attempt at writing a song and I'm just glad that his song writing has improved dramatically. As for Bonehead well yes, his drinking is what Oasis do but I seem to remember Noel banning all drinking alcohol during the recording of the Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants sessions. That is true, or at least true to Noel. Who knows what really went down. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 14, 2021 14:17:12 GMT -5
As for Little James well it was Liam's first attempt at writing a song and I'm just glad that his song writing has improved dramatically. As for Bonehead well yes, his drinking is what Oasis do but I seem to remember Noel banning all drinking alcohol during the recording of the Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants sessions. That is true, or at least true to Noel. Who knows what really went down. You're right and I guess we'll never know the truth. |
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Post by Aman on Feb 14, 2021 16:49:20 GMT -5
Columbia-Supersonic-Bring It On Down SCYHO-Songbird-LBL (fuckin HC ) Yeah Columbia works very well too if you replace it with C&A. |
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Post by World71R on Feb 14, 2021 18:41:10 GMT -5
Columbia-Supersonic-Bring It On Down SCYHO-Songbird-LBL (fuckin HC ) Yeah Columbia works very well too if you replace it with C&A. Come on, come on, come on...  Columbia is a top tune. Good shoegaze-y, strongly late-80s/early-90s Manchester-influenced sound with some awesome guitars, drums and vocals. |
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Post by Marissa on Feb 15, 2021 13:41:15 GMT -5
gas panic to where did it all go wrong to sunday morning call is the best progression of songs on any oasis album. fight me I'd go with Fuckin' in the Bushes through Who Feels Love? from that same album. It gives you a taste of a little bit of everything that Noel was messing with for the new vision of Oasis Mk.II and it all lands really well. Roll With It through Don't Look Back in Anger on WTSMG are hugely important when you talk about the history of the band's success. I love Bag it Up through Waiting for the Rapture on DOYS. Even though Muffins is a clunker, DOYS has a really nice feel and flow to it from start to finish. Supersonic through Cigs & Alc is a great run too. i'm a big fan of the start to DOYS too. totally blew me away when that album was new and i was a new fan. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 15, 2021 16:52:54 GMT -5
PYMWYMI is shocking, SMC is hardly any better. I know it’s Oasis’s come down album and it feels like that when you listen to it. A bit of drag not helped by a couple of poor song choices and baffling sequencing.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 15, 2021 17:15:22 GMT -5
PYMWYMI is shocking, SMC is hardly any better. I know it’s Oasis’s come down album and it feels like that when you listen to it. A bit of drag not helped by a couple of poor song choices and baffling sequencing. I like SMC to be honest Not a patch on WDIAGW, and they could've done something better with the solo, but I think it gets too much hate |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 16, 2021 14:01:13 GMT -5
Sunday Morning Call is ok but I don't think that it's one of the best Noel sung songs to be honest. Where Did It All Go Wrong on the other hand is a brilliant tune.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 16, 2021 14:12:54 GMT -5
Columbia is great and even though I don't like the demo version as much as the album version it's still great.
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