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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 9, 2018 5:35:46 GMT -5
Like DBTT, this album suffers from a distinct lack of Noel-written/Liam-sung songs. A stronger producer would have sorted this album out.
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Post by Aman on Jul 9, 2018 6:36:42 GMT -5
Some really good highs and some incredibly low lows.
Tbh all 4 of the Noughties albums are in the same group, give or take a little.
Good highs here and there, and shit around it.
Not a truly good album any of them.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 9, 2018 12:34:07 GMT -5
'To Be Where There Life' isn't an album highlight but it can stand shoulder to shoulder with Noel's material on the album as far as I'm concerned. Easily Gem's best Oasis song. Why should it have to sound authentically Indian/Hindu? It has a cheap plastic toy sitar bwonging throughout. Who gives a shit? To my ears, it's well written.
AGN & TNOR are both over hated. They're better than some of the boring guff on the last few Oasis albums.
The lows on the album aren't anywhere near as bad as many people make out.
There's not a lot between them but Soldier On>Boy with the Blues.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 9, 2018 12:36:38 GMT -5
I would have wanted that this wasn't the last studio album by Oasis because it was my least favourite Oasis album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 9, 2018 17:01:46 GMT -5
'To Be Where There Life' isn't an album highlight but it can stand shoulder to shoulder with Noel's material on the album as far as I'm concerned. Easily Gem's best Oasis song. Why should it have to sound authentically Indian/Hindu? It has a cheap plastic toy sitar bwonging throughout. Who gives a shit? To my ears, it's well written. A GN & TNOR are both over hated. They're better than some of the boring guff on the last few Oasis albums.The lows on the album aren't anywhere near as bad as many people make out. There's not a lot between them but Soldier On>Boy with the Blues. Aint Got Muffins and Nature of Reality are the definition of post 2000 Oasis guff. Some of the other worst offenders: - I Can See A Liar - Probably All In My Mind - Better Man - The Meaning of Soul - Keep The Dream Alive |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 11, 2018 9:15:27 GMT -5
My Facebook Status 10 years ago today (July 11th 2008). Wow lol
“In tears of fucking joy! Oasis' new song, Falling Down remixed with the Chemical Bros is quality! The real version will be even better. Oasis are back!”
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 11, 2018 9:19:35 GMT -5
There's some good stuff on here, as well as some utter mediocrity. In truth, it needed a much better producer to bring out more of that apocalyptic, aggressive vibe hidden in all the mid-tempo-ness. Also Come On Outside and Record Machine in place of you-know-you.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 11, 2018 11:49:18 GMT -5
Never really understood the hype with Falling Down. It's ok, nothing more
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 11, 2018 12:21:08 GMT -5
There's some good stuff on here, as well as some utter mediocrity. In truth, it needed a much better producer to bring out more of that apocalyptic, aggressive vibe hidden in all the mid-tempo-ness. Also Come On Outside and Record Machine in place of you-know-you. I actually like the production on DOYS. It's just Noel's asinine decision to sabotage the track list to retaliate against Liam which lets it down. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 11, 2018 12:21:39 GMT -5
Never really understood the hype with Falling Down. It's ok, nothing more I do find it flat at times. It's no Masterplan, Live Forever, etc but it's still an excellent track. |
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Post by Aman on Jul 11, 2018 12:30:00 GMT -5
It's definitely one of the highlights of DOYS.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 12:48:10 GMT -5
Falling Down is great but I've never been a huge fan. TSOTL is the best track for me, top-5 songs from 00's actually.
I love The Turning and Bag It Up as well.
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 11, 2018 17:49:51 GMT -5
There's some good stuff on here, as well as some utter mediocrity. In truth, it needed a much better producer to bring out more of that apocalyptic, aggressive vibe hidden in all the mid-tempo-ness. Also Come On Outside and Record Machine in place of you-know-you. It would have been interesting if someone like Dave Fridmann or Alan Moulder produced and/or mixed DOYS. I think Fridmann especially would have fit the vibe. |
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Post by lwilbury on Jul 11, 2018 17:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2018 15:38:29 GMT -5
10 years old today. Great album.
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Post by crisppacket on Oct 6, 2018 16:34:09 GMT -5
Highlight of DOYS for me
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Post by matt on Oct 6, 2018 16:57:54 GMT -5
Mother of god, ten years old?! I remember buying this the day it came out, right after school. Unbelievable.
Not a big fan of the album yet I do have sentimental attachment to it, soundtracking great memories of that time in my life, particularly anticipating its release (another not so great album I have the same fondness for is The Verve’s Forth). I joined this forum pretty much because of that in August 2008.
Shock of the Lightning still an absolute belter of a track (far and away their best lead single since D’You Know What I Mean) along with Falling Down. I still wonder what the music - which purported to be ‘psychedelic’ - would have sounded like with a top producer in charge.
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Post by matt on Oct 6, 2018 17:15:32 GMT -5
There's some good stuff on here, as well as some utter mediocrity. In truth, it needed a much better producer to bring out more of that apocalyptic, aggressive vibe hidden in all the mid-tempo-ness. Also Come On Outside and Record Machine in place of you-know-you. Didn’t read this before commenting but I just echoed it above! That whole ‘psychedelic apocalypse’ concept sounded immense and when I saw the album cover unveiling in the NME, I naively thought that was what I’d get. The album is sadly about as psychedelic as a mug of Ovaltine. Even songs like Falling Down or Soldier On (an underrated wee tune that I’m a supporter of) - two of the better sounding and overtly psychedelic tracks - could sound less heavy handed and more awe-inspiring and ethereal I feel. I mean Dave Sardy, christ.... a man made famous for producing awful Aussie pub rock band Jet for fuck sake. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 6, 2018 21:41:36 GMT -5
Incredible this is 10 years old now. I use to live and die with DOYS updates starting in late 2006 and when things really got cooking late summer 2007 into that winter. Noel, per usual, was giving amazing album/song descriptions. Over hyped for sure. Wow, 10 fucking years. Christ.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 6, 2018 22:46:02 GMT -5
One of the reasons which made me like DOYS were those multitracks, it deconstructed the tracks to layers of sounds, there are lots of found sounds to be discovered, there you can see Sardy, for once in his life, did a good job on an album, he pushed the band into recording something more than the usual.
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Post by fartpanic on Oct 7, 2018 19:32:19 GMT -5
For Sardys incredible shortcomings, this is by far his most interesting production for Oasis. In comparison to what he did for HFB debut, its like Dark Side Of The Moon.
2008. Wow. Similar to a previous post above, this was a soundtrack to that year for me and sometimes songs have so much more meaning for you because of that. I really hate the way post 97 Oasis has been disregarded by liam and Noel recently (supersonic doc and in interviews). It happened, and many of us got on board during what you may not consider great times, but they were to some of us.
Wembley stadium as a 16 year old kid looking around me to 90,000 people singing Dont Look Back In Anger word for word without Noel having to sing a line. That stuff lives with you forever.
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Post by mossy on Oct 9, 2018 14:20:16 GMT -5
You know you’re old when all your favourite bands have best ofs out.
You know you’re ancient when Dig Out Your Soul is over ten years old. ‘Kin ‘ell.
I was at a family party recently when a teen confidently told me Oasis will never reform because two of them are dead...
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Post by matt on Oct 9, 2018 14:29:59 GMT -5
For Sardys incredible shortcomings, this is by far his most interesting production for Oasis. In comparison to what he did for HFB debut, its like Dark Side Of The Moon. 2008. Wow. Similar to a previous post above, this was a soundtrack to that year for me and sometimes songs have so much more meaning for you because of that. I really hate the way post 97 Oasis has been disregarded by liam and Noel recently (supersonic doc and in interviews). It happened, and many of us got on board during what you may not consider great times, but they were to some of us. Wembley stadium as a 16 year old kid looking around me to 90,000 people singing Dont Look Back In Anger word for word without Noel having to sing a line. That stuff lives with you forever. I don’t think Noel or Liam discredited the latter years in Supersonic, there just wasn’t an interesting story to be told after Knebworth or Be Here Now. I mean to think there is trivialises the sheer scale and magnitude of what went on with the band in the 90s. It was well before my time and the Gem and Andy era was very much of my time so I should have nostalgia towards that incarnation of the band but I just don’t have it. All the affection and feelings of attachment are purely towards the original Oasis. |
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Post by mossy on Oct 9, 2018 14:51:10 GMT -5
For Sardys incredible shortcomings, this is by far his most interesting production for Oasis. In comparison to what he did for HFB debut, its like Dark Side Of The Moon. 2008. Wow. Similar to a previous post above, this was a soundtrack to that year for me and sometimes songs have so much more meaning for you because of that. I really hate the way post 97 Oasis has been disregarded by liam and Noel recently (supersonic doc and in interviews). It happened, and many of us got on board during what you may not consider great times, but they were to some of us. Wembley stadium as a 16 year old kid looking around me to 90,000 people singing Dont Look Back In Anger word for word without Noel having to sing a line. That stuff lives with you forever. I don’t think Noel or Liam discredited the latter years in Supersonic, there just wasn’t an interesting story to be told after Knebworth or Be Here Now. I mean to think there is trivialises the sheer scale and magnitude of what went on with the band in the 90s. It was well before my time and the Gem and Andy era was very much of my time so I should have nostalgia towards that incarnation of the band but I just don’t have it. All the affection and feelings of attachment are purely towards the original Oasis. For me it’s the difference between a band and a brand. X |
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Post by Aman on Oct 9, 2018 19:49:21 GMT -5
For Sardys incredible shortcomings, this is by far his most interesting production for Oasis. In comparison to what he did for HFB debut, its like Dark Side Of The Moon. 2008. Wow. Similar to a previous post above, this was a soundtrack to that year for me and sometimes songs have so much more meaning for you because of that. I really hate the way post 97 Oasis has been disregarded by liam and Noel recently (supersonic doc and in interviews). It happened, and many of us got on board during what you may not consider great times, but they were to some of us. Wembley stadium as a 16 year old kid looking around me to 90,000 people singing Dont Look Back In Anger word for word without Noel having to sing a line. That stuff lives with you forever. I don’t think Noel or Liam discredited the latter years in Supersonic, there just wasn’t an interesting story to be told after Knebworth or Be Here Now. I mean to think there is trivialises the sheer scale and magnitude of what went on with the band in the 90s. It was well before my time and the Gem and Andy era was very much of my time so I should have nostalgia towards that incarnation of the band but I just don’t have it. All the affection and feelings of attachment are purely towards the original Oasis. Same. Born in 1989, but it's all about 90s Oasis. There's no true tales about Noughties Oasis, some class songs sure but they never stood out from the crowd from other bands. They're two different bands to me. |
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