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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 2:51:02 GMT -5
Wow, Liam's solo career really seems to scare some people. Thanks for all those who find interviews and post videos, but there's so much nonsense on this forum and not that much interesting discussion, so I think I'll take a break.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 17, 2017 3:52:10 GMT -5
Wow, Liam's solo career really seems to scare some people. Thanks for all those who find interviews and post videos, but there's so much nonsense on this forum and not that much interesting discussion, so I think I'll take a break. Think its because its kind of okay for the frontman and singer to be not as successful because then its like if you get Oasis back, you get the songwriter back to give him that success. Liam now selling out arenas and looking like well on his way to playing even bigger venues next year and suddenly its the songwriter who never sang them songs who is not really needed and thats too much for some people to handle.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 17, 2017 3:58:39 GMT -5
How I love to see this thread turned to be an another Liam vs Noel (or Noel vs Liam).
Oops, I should have talk about another music.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 17, 2017 4:08:36 GMT -5
Wow, Liam's solo career really seems to scare some people. Thanks for all those who find interviews and post videos, but there's so much nonsense on this forum and not that much interesting discussion, so I think I'll take a break. Think its because its kind of okay for the frontman and singer to be not as successful because then its like if you get Oasis back, you get the songwriter back to give him that success. Liam now selling out arenas and looking like well on his way to playing even bigger venues next year and suddenly its the songwriter who never sang them songs who is not really needed and thats too much for some people to handle. ![P-)](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/aISM4jCl_eWjI5L9xvHU.gif)
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 17, 2017 4:09:13 GMT -5
How I love to see this thread turned to be an another Liam vs Noel (or Noel vs Liam). Oops, I should have talk about another music. Come on, let's intimidate some men.
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Post by revol on Sept 17, 2017 4:27:36 GMT -5
Wow, Liam's solo career really seems to scare some people. Thanks for all those who find interviews and post videos, but there's so much nonsense on this forum and not that much interesting discussion, so I think I'll take a break. Think its because its kind of okay for the frontman and singer to be not as successful because then its like if you get Oasis back, you get the songwriter back to give him that success. Liam now selling out arenas and looking like well on his way to playing even bigger venues next year and suddenly its the songwriter who never sang them songs who is not really needed and thats too much for some people to handle.Hmm, not really. Not in my case, anyway. Of course it's great that Liam sells stadiums and arenas, you can't be an Oasis fan and wish him bad, but the mechanism here is slightly different, namely people seem to applaud his highly erratic behaviour like it's some epitome of Rock'n'Roll. It's fucking not. There's nothing Rock'n'Roll in constant moaning at Noel and trying to make himself look like the last living Rock God on the planet (yeah, even his mum is "better" than Keith Richards - whatever that means). That's just lame, childish and makes me cringe every time. But saying that criticising Liam's antics is the sign of the fact that his career is "too much for some people to handle" is simply overinterpretation, underinterpretation or plain stupidity (choose whatever fits you best).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 5:06:47 GMT -5
Think its because its kind of okay for the frontman and singer to be not as successful because then its like if you get Oasis back, you get the songwriter back to give him that success. Liam now selling out arenas and looking like well on his way to playing even bigger venues next year and suddenly its the songwriter who never sang them songs who is not really needed and thats too much for some people to handle.Hmm, not really. Not in my case, anyway. Of course it's great that Liam sells stadiums and arenas, you can't be an Oasis fan and wish him bad, but the mechanism here is slightly different, namely people seem to applaud his highly erratic behaviour like it's some epitome of Rock'n'Roll. It's fucking not. There's nothing Rock'n'Roll in constant moaning at Noel and trying to make himself look like the last living Rock God on the planet (yeah, even his mum is "better" than Keith Richards - whatever that means). That's just lame, childish and makes me cringe every time. But saying that criticising Liam's antics is the sign of the fact that his career is "too much for some people to handle" is simply overinterpretation, underinterpretation or plain stupidity (choose whatever fits you best). Liam's been like this since 1994 though, it's nothing new. I do wish he'd stop bringing Noel up though.
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 17, 2017 5:10:07 GMT -5
Liam is better than Noel
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Post by frjdoasis on Sept 17, 2017 5:34:27 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher. Interview for Il Giornale in Milan. I translated Liam's words from Italian. www.ilgiornale.it/news/spettacoli/eccessi-risse-e-tanta-musica-liam-rockstar-dura-e-pura-1441882.html"If I'd been born in Milan, maybe I wouldn't have started a band, but if I had done it, I would have probably written cheerful and carefree songs like Happy by Pharrell Williams. I'm from Manchester, instead, where you can just say 'Fuck, it's raining again' and besides football it's natural to just get into football." Thanks very much for the translation. Enjoy reading press outside the UK where he gives interesting remarks on different cities. "besides football it's natural to just get into football" - is one of the 'football' supposed to be 'music'? Yes. "I'll be the first to say 'I made my own mistakes'" ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/7QKGdm487eYnX65W8w0g.gif)
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 17, 2017 5:37:03 GMT -5
Hmm, not really. Not in my case, anyway. Of course it's great that Liam sells stadiums and arenas, you can't be an Oasis fan and wish him bad, but the mechanism here is slightly different, namely people seem to applaud his highly erratic behaviour like it's some epitome of Rock'n'Roll. It's fucking not. There's nothing Rock'n'Roll in constant moaning at Noel and trying to make himself look like the last living Rock God on the planet (yeah, even his mum is "better" than Keith Richards - whatever that means). That's just lame, childish and makes me cringe every time. But saying that criticising Liam's antics is the sign of the fact that his career is "too much for some people to handle" is simply overinterpretation, underinterpretation or plain stupidity (choose whatever fits you best). Liam's been like this since 1994 though, it's nothing new. I do wish he'd stop bringing Noel up though. Liam is now nearing 45 though, which is a very different age than 22.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Sept 17, 2017 5:39:09 GMT -5
I like everything good and bad about this post
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Post by carlober on Sept 17, 2017 5:50:05 GMT -5
Oh look, here's another thread gone to shit.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 17, 2017 7:44:38 GMT -5
Keith has to contend with Mick alone, Peggy deals with Liam and Noel. She wins.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 17, 2017 8:04:56 GMT -5
Think its because its kind of okay for the frontman and singer to be not as successful because then its like if you get Oasis back, you get the songwriter back to give him that success. Liam now selling out arenas and looking like well on his way to playing even bigger venues next year and suddenly its the songwriter who never sang them songs who is not really needed and thats too much for some people to handle.Hmm, not really. Not in my case, anyway. Of course it's great that Liam sells stadiums and arenas, you can't be an Oasis fan and wish him bad, but the mechanism here is slightly different, namely people seem to applaud his highly erratic behaviour like it's some epitome of Rock'n'Roll. It's fucking not. There's nothing Rock'n'Roll in constant moaning at Noel and trying to make himself look like the last living Rock God on the planet (yeah, even his mum is "better" than Keith Richards - whatever that means). That's just lame, childish and makes me cringe every time. But saying that criticising Liam's antics is the sign of the fact that his career is "too much for some people to handle" is simply overinterpretation, underinterpretation or plain stupidity (choose whatever fits you best). I didnt mention Liams behaviour being too much for the likes of you to handle. Noel said a few years ago that he would need Liam to do stadiums but hes happy with arenas. If Liam starts doing stadiums or huge outdoor gigs singing Oasis songs then all the jibes that Beady Eye and Liam got personally about not being popular look very silly now. Theres a shitload of theories id love to go back and look at in the Beady Eye section about how Liam is hated by the public.
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Post by revol on Sept 17, 2017 9:06:46 GMT -5
Hmm, not really. Not in my case, anyway. Of course it's great that Liam sells stadiums and arenas, you can't be an Oasis fan and wish him bad, but the mechanism here is slightly different, namely people seem to applaud his highly erratic behaviour like it's some epitome of Rock'n'Roll. It's fucking not. There's nothing Rock'n'Roll in constant moaning at Noel and trying to make himself look like the last living Rock God on the planet (yeah, even his mum is "better" than Keith Richards - whatever that means). That's just lame, childish and makes me cringe every time. But saying that criticising Liam's antics is the sign of the fact that his career is "too much for some people to handle" is simply overinterpretation, underinterpretation or plain stupidity (choose whatever fits you best). I didnt mention Liams behaviour being too much for the likes of you to handle. Noel said a few years ago that he would need Liam to do stadiums but hes happy with arenas. If Liam starts doing stadiums or huge outdoor gigs singing Oasis songs then all the jibes that Beady Eye and Liam got personally about not being popular look very silly now. Theres a shitload of theories id love to go back and look at in the Beady Eye section about how Liam is hated by the public. Beady Eye was probably getting flak just because it wasn't Oasis. I actually liked DGSS - it was a surprisingly good album, not flawless, but very solid. The existence of Beady Eye resulted in one important thing - the press already had their feast of hate, so now (in theory) Liam could have focused only on good music without always being compared to Oasis by the journalists. Or at least not ALL the time. Instead of this, he chooses to channel his energy into this constant moaning. I'd love to hear him talk about e.g. how the songs were written, did he enjoy being in the studio with the producers, working with Klaus Voorman, etc. But instead of this, we keep getting "news" how much he hates Noel. That's fucking boring.
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Post by jxing on Sept 17, 2017 10:55:43 GMT -5
Keith has to contend with Mick alone, Peggy deals with Liam and Noel. She wins. 👏 ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/5073e6f623390b2f0e38279c6ba8d63b.jpg)
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Post by neila83 on Sept 17, 2017 12:30:43 GMT -5
Wow, Liam's solo career really seems to scare some people. Thanks for all those who find interviews and post videos, but there's so much nonsense on this forum and not that much interesting discussion, so I think I'll take a break. I lot of people say stuff like this to try and shut down any criticism, but it really doesn't make sense does it? Anyone who isn't completely in love with everything Liam does must be scared of him being successful. Thats your argument, really? Think about it.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 17, 2017 12:44:18 GMT -5
Love it when the ones who have clearly wanted Liam to fail are just pretending they're happy for him now.
Noel will probably do the same.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 17, 2017 12:52:11 GMT -5
Love it when the ones who have clearly wanted Liam to fail are just pretending they're happy for him now.Noel will probably do the same. May I ask you who are you talking about? Seriously don't the people who love to debate Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam again and again get tired? Why can't they support both of them like they used to when Oasis were still together?
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 17, 2017 12:57:58 GMT -5
Love it when the ones who have clearly wanted Liam to fail are just pretending they're happy for him now.Noel will probably do the same. May I ask you who are you talking about? Seriously don't the people who love to debate Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam again and again get tired? Why can't they support both of them like they used to when Oasis were still together? Go back to any thread in the beady eye section. Look for the same likes on the same posts about how much Liam is failing and hated and you'll have the answer to that question. I don't remember anyone being quite so against Liam vs Noel discussion when Noel was doing well commercially.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 17, 2017 13:10:49 GMT -5
May I ask you who are you talking about? Seriously don't the people who love to debate Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam again and again get tired? Why can't they support both of them like they used to when Oasis were still together? Go back to any thread in the beady eye section. Look for the same likes on the same posts about how much Liam is failing and hated and you'll have the answer to that question. I don't remember anyone being quite so against Liam vs Noel discussion when Noel was doing well commercially. I don't have time to go back to any thread in Beady Eye board and I'm not bothered to do it to be honest. What's the deal to go back to old threads to find posts what you're talking about? To me it's completely waste of time. Are people who were not Beady Eye fans allowed to be happy for Liam as solo musician?
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 17, 2017 13:15:50 GMT -5
Go back to any thread in the beady eye section. Look for the same likes on the same posts about how much Liam is failing and hated and you'll have the answer to that question. I don't remember anyone being quite so against Liam vs Noel discussion when Noel was doing well commercially. I don't have time to go back to any thread in Beady Eye board and I'm not bothered to do it to be honest. What's the deal to go back to old threads to find posts what you're talking about? To me it's completely waste of time. Are people who were not Beady Eye fans allowed to be happy for Liam as solo musician? I don't have to explain myself either. If you want to keep your head in the sand and pretend there wasnt wave after wave of posts mocking Liam and taking pleasure in the apparent failure of Beady Eye then so be it. Some of us have longer memories than others it would seem.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 17, 2017 13:23:56 GMT -5
Go back to any thread in the beady eye section. Look for the same likes on the same posts about how much Liam is failing and hated and you'll have the answer to that question. I don't remember anyone being quite so against Liam vs Noel discussion when Noel was doing well commercially. I don't have time to go back to any thread in Beady Eye board and I'm not bothered to do it to be honest. What's the deal to go back to old threads to find posts what you're talking about? To me it's completely waste of time. Are people who were not Beady Eye fans allowed to be happy for Liam as solo musician? With respect, you were bothered enough to ask the question. I'm not making excuses for shitposting, at all, but let's also not pretend there isn't a fair-sized group of posters who spent the last few years passive-aggressively trolling the Liam/Beady Eye forums and are now pretending they never did, while continuing to do so, just a bit more low-key. I swear, I think I understand how Liam feels when he talks about journos and people think he's just paranoid.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 17, 2017 13:30:30 GMT -5
Alright guys. I'm not pretending anything and I'm not keeping my head in the sand. If you think it's my fault that people who bashed Beady Eye and Liam back then, but are happy for Liam as a solo musician now, I'm fine with that. I don't run away and I love Oasis, love and support both Gallaghers. I don't need to add more. Cheers.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 17, 2017 14:45:57 GMT -5
Alright guys. I'm not pretending anything and I'm not keeping my head in the sand. If you think it's my fault that people who bashed Beady Eye and Liam back then, but are happy for Liam as a solo musician now, I'm fine with that. I don't run away and I love Oasis, love and support both Gallaghers. I don't need to add more. Cheers. Bashing is different from trolling. "FWIW is wank" is bashing, and we hear that all day, every day, and it provokes actual discussion. Bashing and banter keep the forums alive. "Why is he playing that location? Much too big for him. Shame, he's going about this all wrong" is concern trolling. "He's walked off the stage, Chicago won't forget that, he's finished now. So sad, he could have made something decent" is concern trolling. "Worried about his voice, Kermit is back in full effect" (this was said about One Love, mind) is concern trolling. I've no problem with bashing. As I said, it keeps things entertaining. But the passive-aggressive trolling is real, and it's more annoying than anything else.
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