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Post by Aman on Apr 13, 2017 9:13:09 GMT -5
The Turning is great tbh.
Can't believe some Oasis fans don't like it.
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Post by My Big Name on Apr 13, 2017 15:55:27 GMT -5
I Will Believe is definitely better than WFTR, FD and BIU but probably not the rest. Shakermaker would be one of the highlights of DOYS had it been on there and would have most likely outshone the majority of the songs. My Sister Lover is a bit shit though, atrocious lyrics. I'll say it again, but I Will Believe is one of their best ever songs IMO. The Turning is a rare latter day attempt by Noel to write a classic Oasis tune with the chorus and guitar solo and I really like Liam's vocal. IWB definitely is a very underrated tune, albeit one that wasn't even properly recorded (at least to our ears). I've always liked The Turning and I think it fits very well within the album with it being after Bag It Up as it slightly ups the tempo. |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 15, 2017 4:05:55 GMT -5
The Turning is great tbh. Can't believe some Oasis fans don't like it. I just gave the album another listen to again to see if I am missing anything, and yes, The Turning is a fairly decent song, one of the standout tracks on the album (not difficult to do, I know). I'm starting to sway my opinion now towards it not being the worst album any more. That honour now belongs to DBTT. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 16, 2017 19:03:53 GMT -5
I'm safely rating the albums as such now:
DM
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WTSMG
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BHN
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DOYS
SOTSOG
DBTT
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HC
Those middle three are so interchangeable.
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Post by cj85 on Apr 16, 2017 22:07:07 GMT -5
DBTT is Oasis' "Rubber Soul" in my opinion and DOYS is their "Revolver". DBTT is probably the most stripped back of all their albums and there's a purity in it because of that. I think they genuinely cared about that record.
Turn Up The Sun, Lyla, The Importance of Being Idle, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and Let There Be Love are all regulars on my Oasis playlist and they remind me of a time when I think we all felt reinvigorated by Oasis. For the first time in a while, we could all walk down the street with a little more swagger than usual while we listened to it. I personally love it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2017 22:27:29 GMT -5
DBTT is Oasis' "Rubber Soul" in my opinion and DOYS is their "Revolver". DBTT is probably the most stripped back of all their albums and there's a purity in it because of that. I think they genuinely cared about that record. Turn Up The Sun, Lyla, The Importance of Being Idle, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and Let There Be Love are all regulars on my Oasis playlist and they remind me of a time when I think we all felt reinvigorated by Oasis. For the first time in a while, we could all walk down the street with a little more swagger than usual while we listened to it. I personally love it. Those two Beatles albums are masterpieces. DBTT and DOYS are far far from that. The Beatles were going forwards, pushing boundaries, making history. Oasis' albums were in full retreat. Laying up. Playing it easy. |
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Post by cj85 on Apr 16, 2017 23:06:39 GMT -5
I completely agree that "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" are masterpieces, particularly "Revolver", which is my favourite Beatles record. And I admit that DBTT and DOYS are a far cry from that level of genius.
What I meant to say I suppose is that, like "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver", DBTT and DOYS seem like twin records, the latter of each building on the other. Oasis certainly weren't testing the boundaries sonically with either album, but I think they were improving from HC. In my view, after the amazing intensity of the first three albums, SOTSOG was a refreshing and interesting album, and then HC was kind of "Oasis by numbers" but without the swagger. For me, DBTT felt like a reinvigoration for the band (along with the amazing world tour that followed it) and then DOYS as an album seemed to build on it even more. We can only imagine what sort of album would've followed it.
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Post by Headmaster on Apr 17, 2017 12:26:20 GMT -5
DBTT was so refreshing at the time, mainly after the tired sound of HC, the melodies were fresh for the first time in years, songs like POTQ, MF and TUTS sounded unlike anything they did before, you can say that the songs on DBTT are still a template for Noel solo carrer.
DBTT reflected a good era for them, they were now a democracy, the Gallaghers were on good terms with each other, it was well received and the band were back at the spotlight for a new generation.
The album still has its flaws of course, some of the songs needed a better production, but also it is far from being a bad album, TUTS, MF, TIOBI, Lyla, POTQ, GGTIA, LTBL all still holds on their own as great songs.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 17, 2017 17:07:16 GMT -5
DBTT is Oasis' "Rubber Soul" in my opinion and DOYS is their "Revolver". DBTT is probably the most stripped back of all their albums and there's a purity in it because of that. I think they genuinely cared about that record. Turn Up The Sun, Lyla, The Importance of Being Idle, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and Let There Be Love are all regulars on my Oasis playlist and they remind me of a time when I think we all felt reinvigorated by Oasis. For the first time in a while, we could all walk down the street with a little more swagger than usual while we listened to it. I personally love it. Those two Beatles albums are masterpieces. DBTT and DOYS are far far from that. The Beatles were going forwards, pushing boundaries, making history. Oasis' albums were in full retreat. Laying up. Playing it easy. I cannot believe that I have read on a forum that someone is seriously comparing DBTT and DOYS with 2 of the greatest albums of all time. Lennon and Harrison will be turning in their graves. I doubt even Noel would be too comfortable with the comparison either. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 17, 2017 17:14:07 GMT -5
Those two Beatles albums are masterpieces. DBTT and DOYS are far far from that. The Beatles were going forwards, pushing boundaries, making history. Oasis' albums were in full retreat. Laying up. Playing it easy. I cannot believe that I have read on a forum that someone is seriously comparing DBTT and DOYS with 2 of the greatest albums of all time. Lennon and Harrison will be turning in their graves. I doubt even Noel would be too comfortable with the comparison either. Tbf, I don't think the OP said that DBTT was like Rubber Soul or DOYS was like Revolver. Only that within the Oasis-sound they could be seen as a metaphor for where they were at. |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 17, 2017 17:36:55 GMT -5
I cannot believe that I have read on a forum that someone is seriously comparing DBTT and DOYS with 2 of the greatest albums of all time. Lennon and Harrison will be turning in their graves. I doubt even Noel would be too comfortable with the comparison either. Tbf, I don't think the OP said that DBTT was like Rubber Soul or DOYS was like Revolver. Only that within the Oasis-sound they could be seen as a metaphor for where they were at. I don't see the metaphor at all. Those 2 Beatles albums were the band reaching their peak. I hardly see DBTT and DOYS as Oasis reaching their peak. This happened in the 90's. By the period of DBTT and DOYS, the band were in decline. The only Beatles album you could really compare it to is Let it Be, as this was always seen as the album of a band in decline and at their bitter end. The Beatles did have the saving grace though of producing Abbey Road as their swansong, which is light years ahead of DOYS. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 17, 2017 23:29:50 GMT -5
Tbf, I don't think the OP said that DBTT was like Rubber Soul or DOYS was like Revolver. Only that within the Oasis-sound they could be seen as a metaphor for where they were at. I don't see the metaphor at all. Those 2 Beatles albums were the band reaching their peak. I hardly see DBTT and DOYS as Oasis reaching their peak. This happened in the 90's. By the period of DBTT and DOYS, the band were in decline. The only Beatles album you could really compare it to is Let it Be, as this was always seen as the album of a band in decline and at their bitter end. The Beatles did have the saving grace though of producing Abbey Road as their swansong, which is light years ahead of DOYS. I think you're overthinking this. In the sense that both DBTT and Rubber Soul are both stripped back albums, while Revolver and DOYS are trying to be more psychedelic. Which as a "genre" comparison within each respective band's cannon, isn't that far off of a comparative. That also makes it different from a qualitative comparison. |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 18, 2017 0:55:37 GMT -5
I don't see the metaphor at all. Those 2 Beatles albums were the band reaching their peak. I hardly see DBTT and DOYS as Oasis reaching their peak. This happened in the 90's. By the period of DBTT and DOYS, the band were in decline. The only Beatles album you could really compare it to is Let it Be, as this was always seen as the album of a band in decline and at their bitter end. The Beatles did have the saving grace though of producing Abbey Road as their swansong, which is light years ahead of DOYS. I think you're overthinking this. In the sense that both DBTT and Rubber Soul are both stripped back albums, while Revolver and DOYS are trying to be more psychedelic. Which as a "genre" comparison within each respective band's cannon, isn't that far off of a comparative. That also makes it different from a qualitative comparison. Fair enough. From that perspective it is a fair comparison. |
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