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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 18, 2017 19:06:17 GMT -5
I have. It's grown on me so much over the last year or two.
1. "Bag It Up" 2. "The Turning" 3. "Waiting for the Rapture" 4. "The Shock of the Lightning" 5. "I'm Outta Time" 6. "(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady" 7. "Falling Down" 8. "To Be Where There's Life" 9. "Ain't Got Nothin'" 10. "The Nature of Reality" 11. "Soldier On"
Tracks 1-8: High Horse Lady has its place, and TBWTL just about works.
That leaves just 3 shit tracks. It's ashame they occur all in a row and at the end of the album, but can this be forgiven?
AGN is over quickly, MOS rip off but with a decent guitar throughout TNOR is just fucking shit. Can't forgive that one. Soldier On while is similar to HC's Better Man, it eerily has a place considering the end of the band and last (?) album.
For what it's worth, The Turning has 93 plays on my computer's iTunes. Impressive.
Dig Out Yer Soul is a good album. Believe that truth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:14:36 GMT -5
I cant talk about this album without mentioning alternate tracklistings so Im not going to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:18:06 GMT -5
The first 8 tracks are good and flow really well. Ain't Got Nothin' isn't bad and I like Nature of Reality. Soldier On is a nice closer, no Chanpagne Supernova but nor bad at all.
7,5/10
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 18, 2017 19:18:09 GMT -5
Agreed. Let's not Alt-Track this thread. Let's talk about the album we have at hand.
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Post by matt on Mar 18, 2017 19:21:48 GMT -5
Soldier On is not shit. In fact, it's one of the more interesting tunes on Dig Out Your Soul. That mellotron and the slow groove is something that isn't aping The Beatles for once and is one of Liam's best tunes. Miles better than To Be Where There's Life which I cannot stand due to it's cringe worthy Beatlefied pseudo-psychedelic posturing.
Soldier On should work as a closer but doesn't get that effect it deserves as the songs preceding it are awful. It should have been a meditative epilogue after an epic finale - ala Slide Away and Married With Children.
Of course, production wise the whole album is poor (aside from Shock of the Lightning which delivers on it's punkish potential I feel). It's apparently a 'psychedelic' album that some like to think is 'experimental' but I can't hear anything apart from dull sludges of guitar.
Done differently and with more ambition, it could have been tastefully done - for example, I prefer the Devendra Banhart remix of High Horse which gives that song the flourish and colour that it the album version is desperately craving. Something a bit more expansive would have been nice for once with Oasis (and with Noel). Although the tunes are decent, their potential is never reached and the album doesn't sound any different from those crap sixth form indie plodders that wrecked havoc on the charts in the mid 2000s.
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Post by Thomas on Mar 18, 2017 20:11:21 GMT -5
Really like Dig Out Your Soul. It's no masterpiece by any means but it probably has the best flow in any Oasis album, especially from tracks 1 to 7. That's also production. It could've been better produced sonically speaking and some songs have room for much more interesting instrumental bits, but it's #2 or #3 on my "Oasis' best albums ranked by production" list. Also agree with matt when he says DOYS needed more ambition - just like everything Oasis had done from 2000 onwards, eh? I like The Nature Of Reality and personally think it's a bit underrated. However, I understand why many people just can't stand it. I for instance can't stand AGN. Soldier On works great as a closer, I think. Love the groove. Personally, I see DOYS as a groovy album. WFTR, HHL, TBWTL and Soldier On are quite groovy tunes for Oasis standards. Bag It Up, The Turning and TSOL are some of the best "classic Oasis" tunes to come from Noel after Be Here Now. I find LAG contribution, apart from AGN, to be pretty good. Solid 7.5/10. And it ages well.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 18, 2017 20:14:24 GMT -5
It really depresses me to see the direction the band was heading in with tracks like Bag It Up, The Turning, Waiting For The Rapture, Falling Down, TSOTL and then they split, never fully exploring that sound.
It's a shame really the album wasn't more well received. Those are all solid tracks which are some of Noels best since his early days of writing.
I'm Outta Time is great too.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 18, 2017 20:18:06 GMT -5
I love the melody to Soldier On. I even like the lyrics. It's destroyed by the lalalas and the vocal-less gaps. Should also have stayed under 2 minutes long so as to not be overly repetitive.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 18, 2017 21:44:06 GMT -5
It's a very good album IMO, a solid 7,5/8,0 out of 10, I liked the direction that they took with this album, a sort of desert rock guitar style mixed with heavy blues sound, if you don't like this kind of sound doesn't mean it's bad.
Also it's really well produced, very organic, it isn't flat or lifeless like the past two albums, this time Sardy did a good job on the desk, unlike his other works with the Gallaghers.
Yeah for me the album is perfect from track 1 to 7, track 8 is a bit repetitive but isn't bad, tracks 9 and 10 are the weakest tracks, both shit btw, however track 11 is awesome.
The album was more a new direction for the band than a fully experimental work, the band finally have abandoned that britpop sound, that is why some people don't like it I guess.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 18, 2017 22:49:36 GMT -5
Can we forgive Noel?
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Post by oasis6 on Mar 18, 2017 23:31:20 GMT -5
Good Album. Really like The Turning. I know the OP said not to do this but. The album would have been amazing if.
1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture (alt-version) 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Record Machine (Liam vox) 7. Falling Down 8. To be Where There's Life (with guitars, similar to the live version) 9. Come on, It's Alright (Liam vox) 10. The Morning Son
Ok I got a bit greedy there, and maybe the placement of the Morning Son is puzzling and odds are it didn't exist. But to me, The Morning Son is Soldier On's big and way better brother. Though I still do like Soldier On. I remember when we got 30 Snippets of each song, the Soldier On snippet was the part where he sings, "Who's to say, that you were right etc..." and that 30 seconds sounded blissful. I was so excited for the song. Problem is, thats the best part of the song. Doesn't really get much better from there. The 30 second snippet from The Morning Son was the beginning, so when the song exploded, it was an amazing surprise.
(As an aside, I thought the 30 second snippet of 3 Ring Circus was brilliant, so they can really be deceiving...)
I also prefer They Got Nothing on Me, They Got Nothing On You (or Ain't Got Nothing's Don't Believe the Truth version) but it's still not a good song.
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Post by Manualex on Mar 18, 2017 23:39:37 GMT -5
on what premise? If it was about the split it has been for the better for him. Or if it's because he didnt write/record more songs penned by himself on the álbum then I only have issues with two songs and those are: Nature of Reality and muffins. One needed something else in it(dunno what makes it feel so empty after the intro and then the sólo happens and ot feels like nothing has happened) and the other needed more chaos in it, the demo was miles better.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 19, 2017 7:07:14 GMT -5
It's a magical mystery to why the band split after DOYS. Wahey!
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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Mar 19, 2017 7:26:18 GMT -5
DOYS is and always was my 4th Favourite Oasis album
The 6 Excellent Tracks arent just Excellent. Theyre a bit fucking wierd which i love.
High horse also fits the album and i do actually like it once it gets going.
And apart from AGN the remaineder of the tracks be them Average or Shit. Actually fit the vibe of the album.
Unlike Giants where they filled a potentially Interesting and dark album with bland and dull rock songs.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 19, 2017 7:53:40 GMT -5
DOYS is and always was my 4th Favourite Oasis album The 6 Excellent Tracks arent just Excellent. Theyre a bit fucking wierd which i love. High horse also fits the album and i do actually like it once it gets going. And apart from AGN the remaineder of the tracks be them Average or Shit. Actually fit the vibe of the album. Unlike Giants where they filled a potentially Interesting and dark album with bland and dull rock songs. I love the apocalyptic feel to DOYS. It's a semi-concept album, and dark and moody as fuck.
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Mar 19, 2017 8:06:12 GMT -5
Very rarely listen to DOYS anymore, i appreciate the good songs on there and the tone they were going for, but the whole album just feels flat, and as good as the songs are id say none of them are incredible, may be an unpopular opinion but most boring/forgettable oasis album imo
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 19, 2017 8:32:38 GMT -5
on what premise? If it was about the split it has been for the better for him. Or if it's because he didnt write/record more songs penned by himself on the álbum then I only have issues with two songs and those are: Nature of Reality and muffins. One needed something else in it(dunno what makes it feel so empty after the intro and then the sólo happens and ot feels like nothing has happened) and the other needed more chaos in it, the demo was miles better. For holding back better songs for turds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 8:53:53 GMT -5
on what premise? If it was about the split it has been for the better for him. Or if it's because he didnt write/record more songs penned by himself on the álbum then I only have issues with two songs and those are: Nature of Reality and muffins. One needed something else in it(dunno what makes it feel so empty after the intro and then the sólo happens and ot feels like nothing has happened) and the other needed more chaos in it, the demo was miles better. For holding back better songs for turds. ...or for a solo album. no, i can not forgive doys. it has some great tunes (and in my opinion, one of the all-time greats in 'falling down'), but it could have been so much better. some of the tunes are no more than b-sides at best ('high horse lady', 'ain't got nothin'', 'nature of reality') while another would-have-been-great tune was ruined by absolutely dire production ('to be where there's life'). the overall result coming out of the speakers certainly did not live up to the epic artwork.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 9:15:12 GMT -5
Up to the end of Falling Down it's one of my favourite Oasis albums, and To Be Where There's Life is excellent live. Noel clearly sabotaged it to make a point.
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Post by wylliejack on Mar 19, 2017 9:49:22 GMT -5
Doys has grown a lot on me in the last couple of months. Really like the apocalyptic tone of it and the production for most of the album. Theres a couple of shit tunes at the end but its wayyyy more enjoyable to listen to than hc and dbtt
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 19, 2017 9:57:18 GMT -5
Nope, not really. He gipped us out of half an album. At least four of the songs werent worthy of being anywhere near an Oasis album. It's a shame because Noel was writing decent rockers for the first time in years and Liam's vocals on the record are excellent.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 19, 2017 10:29:04 GMT -5
It's so annoying that Bag It Up and The Turning were never played live.
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 19, 2017 15:53:12 GMT -5
I just cannot listen to this album anymore. I used to really love: Bag It Up The Turning Shock Of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Falling Down
However, whenever I do try to listen to the album now, I struggle to even make it beyond The Turning. Every track for me is just below average to what Oasis had done. The opening three tracks do nothing for me, in fact, just like the rest of the album, it annoys me. I can't see how people can listen to this god awful mess of an album and an album that tries to be different for the sake of being different, yet slate Don't Believe The Truth or Heathen Chemistry. Both of which are no worse and, as far as I'm concerned, better as an actual album that Dig Out Your Soul.
You ask, can we forgive the album. Yes we can but, the fact remains, to me, it's the worst Oasis album by a mile.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 19, 2017 16:04:39 GMT -5
(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady fitting with the album's atmosphere is not a good enough reason for it to be on the album. It's shit. I don't mind it. But that 30 seconds of someone walking on gravel at the end is a fucking scandal...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:06:14 GMT -5
(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady fitting with the album's atmosphere is not a good enough reason for it to be on the album. It's shit. I don't mind it. But that 30 seconds of someone walking on gravel at the end is a fucking scandal... It's Andy's favourite moment of the album.
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