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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 14:39:21 GMT -5
Also, I partially agree. I'd say the last 8 years they have been overrated in that nothing of late has been worthy of listening (Thom Yorke's solo record so predictable now) but I like everything before then, In Rainbows would have been a great swansong. Aside from a few songs, King of Limbs was shit and I remember fans saying it may have been part one of something else - read between the lines, they weren't satisfied so were expecting a bit more. Plus the fact that really annoys me about them of late - why not play your best songs at a live gig? I'm not saying play a greatest hits set but stop being so fucking precious and pretentious Thom Yorke. I think it's overly harsh to say nothing Radiohead have done over the last 8 years is worth listening to; they've only done one album in that time and half of that is utterly beautiful. The other half is mediocre at worst, a far cry from "shit". Also, the album live from the basement is one of the best things they've ever done - certainly worth a listen. Thom is not Radiohead, but he is a very good electronic artist. I don't get why people can't accept him as such. If he does another solo record, it'll most likely be electronica. So will any future Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares albums - why? Because they're electronic artists. I don't like that his music gets viewed from the underlining perspective of "Have you stopped all that clever dick computer stuff and got back to real music yet? No? Ok then, let's hear it..." I think best songs is difficult to nail - twenty Radiohead fans could all conceivably give you extremely different top-20 songs list. I think they strike a nice mix of old and new (including plenty of unheard, which is nice). |
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 27, 2015 14:55:17 GMT -5
Radiohead is not overrated. You just have to be in a specific state of mind to listen and appreciate them.
And i don't want to be in that state of mind. Ever.
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Oct 27, 2015 15:34:18 GMT -5
Are ye taking the piss?  Every single one of her albums is utter class. She's the perfect celebrity role model. And she's well fit. Youuuu can fuck off. How dare you! The absolute nerve. First Lennon and now this. That horrible, evil, hairless vagina from Hell is taking us all for a ride. You can put lipstick all over that pig but at the end of the day it's still a pig who's going to crumb on you in song if you should happen to look at Adele sideways for even a second. She has no soul and probably takes forever to orgasm. Who needs that? You may as well be eating an Eskimo Pie, damn it! (At this point the author of this post got stuck for ideas because said post wasn't turning out to be anywhere near as funny as he intended it to be so basically he gave up and went for the old explain it all away in parenthesis gag in the hope that that would get a laugh but not a sound other than crickets throwing up was heard) |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 27, 2015 15:35:57 GMT -5
Ahh... the pain is instant. It's a difficult balancing act between this thread and the other, however I'll happily nominate Foo Fighters, Coldplay and Weezer. Queen's a solid shout too. - Foo Fighters are a decent enough band and Dave's clearly a great guy, but the amount of exposure they get is almost suffocating. Year after year, after year, the mainstream media single out the band as their 'rock option', regardless of what the band releases. People are far too hesitant to push any kind of criticism on Good Guy Grohl simply because no one likes to shit on the protagonist. They want him to succeed and the good guys have to don't they? - Feel free to disagree but I think Coldplay's gameplan is (and always has) been popularity driven and to me that's just about as lame as it gets. A couple of okay albums from the noughties and people seem to think they're world beaters. Predictable, boring and recently, embarrassing. - Weezer just seem to be one of those bands people seem to have fond memories of back in the day and carry a soft spot for. The amount of nostalgia fuelled hard-ons people get over The Blue Album and Pinkerton just baffles me. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 15:51:09 GMT -5
The Smiths  No. Criminally underrated, if anything. |
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Oct 27, 2015 15:55:21 GMT -5
In all seriousness (for once)
Queen was pretty icky but in the 70's they managed to combine the smarts of The Beatles
and the thump of Zeppelin pretty well.
Foo Fighters is kind of crap. If Grohl had never been in Nirvana they'd have never happened
commercially. Fa Fa Fooey!
Coldplay is almost beyond awful. Imagine U2 with no Edge. Nope, it's even worse than that.
Imagine U2 with 4 Bonos and they all play keyboards. That's Coldplay. Quadruple yuck!
Of course I could be wrong. But I'm not.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 16:47:02 GMT -5
Fun topic. The Smiths were tricky. I remember when I first heard/saw them back in 1983 |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 17:03:22 GMT -5
No. Criminally underrated, if anything. Criminally? Really? I often see their albums in "best albums of all time list", or them as being one of the best band of all time. I think even NME placed them number 1 as "most influential band ever". What the fuck? THAT is overrated. So maybe they are kind of underrated by the mass, but they certainly are overrated by the musical media and by people who likes pop/rock music. They are known in only the UK. No one in the US even knows them. They still haven't even been inducted to the Hall of Fame. So no, they can't possibly be over rated based on all of that. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 27, 2015 17:09:36 GMT -5
Queen is awesome. Freddie Mercury was the best frontman ever and one of the best vocalists too. Brian May is a fantastic guitar player and they've made great songs. I can see why they're not everyone's cup of tea as they're quite bombastic, but overrated?
Coldplay however (and I like Coldplay)...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 17:14:01 GMT -5
I don't think Coldplay are overrated at all because they're not rated. They have very low critical respect and are a general punching bag for music fans and critics alike. It's cool to hate them and I think they're quite underrated. Love them or loathe them, they should get more credit for being a pop band who have covered a range of genres and consistently scored multiple hits. Don't think of them as a MOR rock band, but a quite brilliant pop band.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 17:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 27, 2015 17:22:08 GMT -5
No. Criminally underrated, if anything. Criminally? Really? I often see their albums in "best albums of all time list", or them as being one of the best band of all time. I think even NME placed them number 1 as "most influential band ever". What the fuck? THAT is overrated. So maybe they are kind of underrated by the mass, but they certainly are overrated by the musical media and by people who likes pop/rock music. I ADORE the Smiths, but I do have to agree with you somewhat. In the eyes of certain music jouros (those in the employment of the NME...) they can do no wrong. Yes, they were a fabulous singles band, but as far as their albums went, barring The Queen Is Dead, they were patchy to say the least. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 17:32:27 GMT -5
I think my relationship with Mean Mrs. Mustard is over, and not very well rated, either.  |
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Post by Manualex on Oct 27, 2015 17:36:47 GMT -5
I think my relationship with Mean Mrs. Mustard is over, and not very well rated, either. It isnt a relationship if it is one-sided. |
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2015 18:24:31 GMT -5
Also, I partially agree. I'd say the last 8 years they have been overrated in that nothing of late has been worthy of listening (Thom Yorke's solo record so predictable now) but I like everything before then, In Rainbows would have been a great swansong. Aside from a few songs, King of Limbs was shit and I remember fans saying it may have been part one of something else - read between the lines, they weren't satisfied so were expecting a bit more. Plus the fact that really annoys me about them of late - why not play your best songs at a live gig? I'm not saying play a greatest hits set but stop being so fucking precious and pretentious Thom Yorke. I think it's overly harsh to say nothing Radiohead have done over the last 8 years is worth listening to; they've only done one album in that time and half of that is utterly beautiful. The other half is mediocre at worst, a far cry from "shit". Also, the album live from the basement is one of the best things they've ever done - certainly worth a listen. Thom is not Radiohead, but he is a very good electronic artist. I don't get why people can't accept him as such. If he does another solo record, it'll most likely be electronica. So will any future Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares albums - why? Because they're electronic artists. I don't like that his music gets viewed from the underlining perspective of "Have you stopped all that clever dick computer stuff and got back to real music yet? No? Ok then, let's hear it..." I think best songs is difficult to nail - twenty Radiohead fans could all conceivably give you extremely different top-20 songs list. I think they strike a nice mix of old and new (including plenty of unheard, which is nice). They are still excellent live performers but I just can't get into the King of Limbs stuff. |
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Oct 27, 2015 18:31:22 GMT -5
Slayer. Coming from an ex fan
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Post by John Henry Holliday on Oct 27, 2015 18:43:17 GMT -5
It takes a lot, a lot of balls,to put yourself out there and be judged, while many sit on the sideline and judge.
God bless.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 18:47:29 GMT -5
It takes a lot, a lot of balls,to put yourself out there and be judged, while many sit on the sideline and judge. God bless. If you have a lot of balls, I suggest you see the doctor. Good tidings x. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 27, 2015 18:47:46 GMT -5
It takes a lot, a lot of balls,to put yourself out there and be judged, while many sit on the sideline and judge. God bless. "And those that do are judged by those that tried, and found they couldn't do..." Never not relevant. |
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Post by carryusall on Oct 27, 2015 19:57:44 GMT -5
No. Criminally underrated, if anything. Criminally? Really? I often see their albums in "best albums of all time list", or them as being one of the best band of all time. I think even NME placed them number 1 as "most influential band ever". What the fuck? THAT is overrated. So maybe they are kind of underrated by the mass, but they certainly are overrated by the musical media and by people who likes pop/rock music. I'd agree with this. I love the smiths, I really do, but they're not the best band of all time, and the Queen is Dead is not the best album of all time. I would say they are one of the most influential bands of all time, when trying to describe Indie I usually just say that musically speaking an Indie band is a band that tries to sound like the Smiths. But I think Morrissey's overrated. I have moments when I think he's a genius, but they're outweighed by my suspicion that he's not. For me he never topped his writing on the first album, and his ridiculous book made me reconsider that maybe he's just a bad writer. Or maybe he's one of the very best. I cannot work it out. Sometimes I think that he's just saying olden days words because he thinks it's poetry, and I think that's awful, and sometimes I think he's tapping into something deeply felt and human with more grace than I've heard any other songwriter do. He's the Nicolas Cage of songwriting. That book is appalling though. Not the autobiography, the one about the relay team. If anyone on here is secretly Morrissey, I'm very sorry. And please stop calling Chinese people subhuman. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2015 20:03:46 GMT -5
Guns N Roses.
To be fair, they should be in my list in the parallel thread, as I don't know much about them. But they seem like a band that is hell bent on being over rated. So, yeah.
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Post by sortitout1471 on Oct 27, 2015 20:29:45 GMT -5
You diss Quentin again, you're gonna get a bullet. Not a warning, not a question. A bullet. So pay the money and take a shot Leadfill the hole in me I could burst a million bubbles All surrogate and bullet proof Seriously, like apparently everyone, I love Reservoir Dogs (there's a film poster on my wall looking down on me right now) and Pulp Fiction. Jackie Brown is great too and I loved Death Proof. But I'd rather watch, let's say, my Godard boxset or Eraserhead 20 times in a row than watch Kill Bill/Django Unchained/Inglorious Basterds ever again. His latter movies are so overly ambitious and superficial, they just heavily fail to be the outsider work of art they aim to be. Perhaps they just not appeal to me. There's nothing and absolutely nothing spontaneous and innovative about them. They are nice to watch though, while you have nothing better to do. Hang on... You liked Death Proof ? I would say that was Tarrantino's worse movie. I agree Kill Bill's are not very good , classic case of style over substance and have aged very badly but Django was decent or was at least until the last 20 minutes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 4:38:42 GMT -5
I actually love every Tarantino film other than Death Proof and Inglorious Basterds. And I didn't hate Inglorious Basterds at all. Django Unchained is very possibly the most entertaining movie I've ever seen, totally loved it.
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 28, 2015 8:33:35 GMT -5
Alt-J are probably overrated, imho.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 28, 2015 8:42:16 GMT -5
I have moments when I think he's a genius, but they're outweighed by my suspicion that he's not. For me he never topped his writing on the first album, and his ridiculous book made me reconsider that maybe he's just a bad writer. Or maybe he's one of the very best. I cannot work it out. Sometimes I think that he's just saying olden days words because he thinks it's poetry, and I think that's awful, and sometimes I think he's tapping into something deeply felt and human with more grace than I've heard any other songwriter do. He's the Nicolas Cage of songwriting. That is so true for his post-2000 albums - just take You Are The Quarry which had the ridiculously beautiful Come back to Camden next to a song titled How Could Anybody Possibly Know How I Feel (with a line "I've had my face dragged in fifteen miles of shit/And I do not, And I do not, And I do not like it"). Nowadays, he is also really, really annoying with his constant ramblings about carnivores being murderers...he's dialed up the crazy while his songwriting went downhill. But his run from Viva Hate to Southpaw Grammar, as well as the Smiths stuff...all brillant. Lyrically as well as musically - and more than anything, completely unique. |
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