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Post by squire on Jan 18, 2015 8:33:34 GMT -5
Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss?  Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Yeah, the lyrics and melody are there but the recorded version is plodding and unlikeable. I at least almost never have the desire to listen to it. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Jan 18, 2015 9:00:24 GMT -5
Ok, I just listened to it for the first time. It sounds like What a Life on mega steroids to me  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 18, 2015 9:00:55 GMT -5
Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss? Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Yeah, the lyrics and melody are there but the recorded version is plodding and unlikeable. I at least almost never have the desire to listen to it. Yeah, the production isn't the best, but it is a brilliant tune. Clunker? I'm not having that. |
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Post by LlAM on Jan 18, 2015 10:06:12 GMT -5
Yeah, the lyrics and melody are there but the recorded version is plodding and unlikeable. I at least almost never have the desire to listen to it. Yeah, the production isn't the best, but it is a brilliant tune. Clunker? I'm not having that. Out of curiosity, by 'Production' do you mean the instrumentation or the mixing/recording? My biggest annoyance with IIHAG is the middle 8 'aahs' were he's removed some of the notes since the original soundcheck. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2015 10:14:08 GMT -5
Still, after two singles last time we already had one clunker (If I Had A Gun) Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss? Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Nonsense... it's not even the best song on the HFB album, and I don't even really like that album! Boring, saccharine shite, Alone On The Rope is ten times the tune If I Had A Gun is |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2015 10:18:09 GMT -5
Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss? Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Nonsense... it's not even the best song on the HFB album, and I don't even really like that album! Boring, saccharine shite, Alone On The Rope is ten times the tune If I Had A Gun is If I Had A Gun is boring. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2015 10:32:41 GMT -5
Nonsense... it's not even the best song on the HFB album, and I don't even really like that album! Boring, saccharine shite, Alone On The Rope is ten times the tune If I Had A Gun is If I Had A Gun is boring. Sure is... A mixture of lazy Noel songwriting and Dave Sardy production is to be avoided at all cost |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 18, 2015 10:44:54 GMT -5
Totally disagree. Certainly, IIHAG is lacking on the production side, but the song is fantastic. Still in my car playlists after more than 3 years ! (it also helps that my girlfriend loves it , I guess)
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 18, 2015 11:05:22 GMT -5
'If I Had A Gun' is a solid enough song, and was rightly single worthy, however the production and 'new musical construction' around it, really restrained its potential and strangled any emotion out of it. Despite what people say, this has carried over live too. It should have been kept as minimal as possible, like the soundcheck version we first heard. A good song, but definitely not the best since the 90's. Doubt it'd make my top 10 post 90's Noel Gallagher tracks. Top 20 though... more than likely.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Jan 18, 2015 11:16:08 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun is a great song. Nevermind the production or lack of creativity, or whatever you wanna call it. It has a great melody, and works even better as an acoustic song. It's what Noel does best.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 18, 2015 12:56:36 GMT -5
Ok, I just listened to it for the first time. It sounds like What a Life on mega steroids to me Haha thats funny  . For me what a life sounds like Ballad of The mighty I in steroids. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 18, 2015 13:30:05 GMT -5
The production or mixing just sucked the life out of IIHAG. Otherwise it's not a bad song. But this just makes it boring and tiring.
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 18, 2015 13:31:16 GMT -5
Ok, I just listened to it for the first time. It sounds like What a Life on mega steroids to me Haha thats funny . For me what a life sounds like Ballad of The mighty I in steroids. I agree. I mean BOTMI is a decent enough song with an interesting direction but it just lacks something. I can see what Noel was trying to do by releasing it as a single but I don't think it's that radio friendly and I don't think many people will become a fan because of it. It really does sound like a song from a film score at times. What a Life was much more radio friendly with a catchy hook whilst BOTMI is more subdued. |
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Post by mouth on Jan 18, 2015 13:49:44 GMT -5
Nonsense... it's not even the best song on the HFB album, and I don't even really like that album! Boring, saccharine shite, Alone On The Rope is ten times the tune If I Had A Gun is If I Had A Gun is boring. iihag has one of the most beautiful melody changes noel has ever come up with. that "excuse me if i spoke too soon"-line gave me the goosiest goose bumps one could imagine when i heard it for the first time. i still find it hauntingly beautiful. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 18, 2015 13:54:39 GMT -5
I think If I Had A Gun would be better received had we never heard that soundcheck version. It's so full of life and soul, so personal, and that's what is lacking in the album version. I like the album version, but it's no comparison to the passion displayed in that souncheck.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jan 18, 2015 14:28:31 GMT -5
Still, after two singles last time we already had one clunker (If I Had A Gun) Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss? Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Laughable comment. If I Had A Gun is so predictable and boring. |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jan 18, 2015 14:30:02 GMT -5
Clunker? Please. Are you taking the piss? Best song he's come up with since the '90s..... Nonsense... it's not even the best song on the HFB album, and I don't even really like that album! Boring, saccharine shite, Alone On The Rope is ten times the tune If I Had A Gun is Totally agree, Alone On The Rope is everything If I Had A Gun wishes it could be. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 18, 2015 14:48:12 GMT -5
Do you know what I miss on the finished version of If I Had a Gun? The way he sings the verse that turned into "I'm holding on, I'm waiting for the moment to find me" on the soundcheck. The rhythm is different and it works so much better. I also prefer the aahs on the soundcheck and demo versions.
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2015 15:10:29 GMT -5
I think there is a great song in If I Had A Gun, it's just the execution was terrible in that it was bludgeoned to death on record. It completely lost the sensitive and haunting qualities of the sound check version that made it feel like something special.
Instead we got the album version that was like putting a ballet dancer in a straitjacket.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Jan 18, 2015 15:19:33 GMT -5
Do you know what I miss on the finished version of If I Had a Gun? The way he sings the verse that turned into "I'm holding on, I'm waiting for the moment to find me" on the soundcheck. The rhythm is different and it works so much better. I also prefer the aahs on the soundcheck and demo versions. No way, the way that line turned out in the album version is so much better than the sound check. But I agree, the "aahs" are better and more diverse in the sound check. Overall, Noel should've taken the Wonderwall approach with it and focused more on the song rather than the beefy production. |
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Post by Cast on Jan 18, 2015 17:22:34 GMT -5
I think there is a great song in If I Had A Gun, it's just the execution was terrible in that it was bludgeoned to death on record. It completely lost the sensitive and haunting qualities of the sound check version that made it feel like something special. Instead we got the album version that was like putting a ballet dancer in a straitjacket. Couldn't have said it better myself. The overall song is really good and I'd even consider it boarding on great. The chorus melody is one of Noel's best ever in my opinion. The recorded version of it is just really lacking. The rhythm is too plodding and the guitars are too beefed up. I prefer the Faster Than the Speed of Magic demo. Haunting should have been the word to describe IIHAG, instead I think of plodding. Even if it is somewhat of a Wonderwall rewrite, the song needed less focus on the instrumentation. The melody is outstanding. Noel and Sardy should have approached the song more subtly. |
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Jan 18, 2015 17:42:05 GMT -5
Hopefully Noel learned his lesson from If I Had A Gun and approached Dying of the Light more lightly. It can still have a strong production and everything but it doesn't need to be focused so much on heavy drums or bass because it doesn't need that.
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Post by Emil (AKA... The Mexican!) on Jan 18, 2015 17:49:39 GMT -5
Listen to this version of IIHAG and tell it's not fucking amazing. My favorite version. link |
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Post by World71R on Jan 18, 2015 18:05:15 GMT -5
Listen to this version of IIHAG and tell it's not fucking amazing. My favorite version. linkThe raw emotion is pretty obvious in this version, and I think that's why it's sooo good. Add some drums, a light bassline, light electric guitar overdub, and some harmonies, all with good production, and you have a brilliant track. I love it the way it is, no matter if it's the album version or live, though. |
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 19, 2015 5:12:59 GMT -5
Listen to this version of IIHAG and tell it's not fucking amazing. My favorite version. linkAre those Pretty Green "Clark's"? |
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