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Post by lamboasis on Oct 20, 2015 9:14:24 GMT -5
Don't put words I never said in my mouth, please. Arctic Monkeys are my 2nd favourite act ever, so... Are they mainstream? Honestly, I don't really think so. Maybe in UK, but if you go out in the street I don't know how many people would tell you they know who they are. But that's not the point. Let's say AM are mainstream, but they are the only ones. And they changed their style to get there (and don't get me wrong, I like AM). The fact - because it's a fact - is that Catfish and the Bottlemen are one of the biggest new coming bands in UK. That's because they have an album that is still on the chart after 57 weeks and they're getting new fans everyday. The album is also a Gold disc and their tour sold out in minutes. How many debuting guitar music bands achieved this after 2010? Royal Blood, The 1975, who else? I still think the fact that they have haters is actually good. The quality of the songs is not that great, we all know that. It's not something new, it's not original, it's not fucki** psychedelic space jazz with shades of synthwhatever (oh god the critics would die for this) but it's rock, or pop\rock, straight forward music for "people who want to have a great time after 5 days at work". Nobody said they are Pink Floyd, nobody said they are The Rolling Stones. Usually I leave it at that. I mean, why bother? I think the band attracts a lot of 'haters' due to a number of good reasons, one of which being the large fan base the band has quickly amassed in their very short (and arguably fruitless) careers. It's nice to see people achieve success but when so many great bands pump album after album of quality material and still receive less than a tenth of what Catfish & the Bottlemen are amassing, the world seems just that bit more unjust and monotonous than you thought before. Also when looking and listening to the band you can't help but feel as if the band agenda is to appeal to as wide of an audience as can possibly be achieved by an indie band. When calculated commerciality outways an artist's songwriting output can they be considered a serious music vehicle or are they just an empty carcass pretending to be a serious music vehicle? Leather jackets and guitars at the ready I'm sure they'll convince a field or two. Record label investment? At least 2 catchy songs? What kind of aspirations are these? Why are people trying to make up excuses for them? The first answer is an opinion. You don't like them, I do. This should end here, but that's it. I'm sick of repeating the same with, with the same answer all over. Music sometimes can go over complicated songs, you know? Also they formed the band in 2007, they did in the hard way. Nobody took them and decided they had to be famous. If other bands can't make it's their own business. They could be The Strokes wannabes, or whatever, but I'm sick of Tame Impala wannabes as well. With Record label investment and catchy songs I'm clearly talking about commercial success, or at least in the guitar world area because they'll never be mainstream just like the majority of rock bands. Somebody told they'll disappear, well, it depends. It won't be because they play something somebody else already did, or we would have 3 active artists in the world. If they'll disappear it'll be because their new songs won't be good (or commercially good anyway) and their label will stop to spend money for them because of that. Give them 2 singles as catchy as Kathleen and Cocoon for their first two singles from their 2nd album, a great promotion, and let's see what happens. Maybe they have something better, who knows? Who can tell that? And yet again, the fact that there are obsessed haters out there it's bloody good for them. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 20, 2015 9:49:34 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the only few people who don't think they're catchy. Have heard a few of their songs, and some multiple times as they've been on the radio, but I can't remember what any of them sound like. Not even a riff.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 20, 2015 10:18:17 GMT -5
Usually I leave it at that. I mean, why bother? I think the band attracts a lot of 'haters' due to a number of good reasons, one of which being the large fan base the band has quickly amassed in their very short (and arguably fruitless) careers. It's nice to see people achieve success but when so many great bands pump album after album of quality material and still receive less than a tenth of what Catfish & the Bottlemen are amassing, the world seems just that bit more unjust and monotonous than you thought before. Also when looking and listening to the band you can't help but feel as if the band agenda is to appeal to as wide of an audience as can possibly be achieved by an indie band. When calculated commerciality outways an artist's songwriting output can they be considered a serious music vehicle or are they just an empty carcass pretending to be a serious music vehicle? Leather jackets and guitars at the ready I'm sure they'll convince a field or two. Record label investment? At least 2 catchy songs? What kind of aspirations are these? Why are people trying to make up excuses for them? The first answer is an opinion. You don't like them, I do. This should end here, but that's it. I'm sick of repeating the same with, with the same answer all over. With Record label investment and catchy songs I'm clearly talking about commercial success, or at least in the guitar world area because they'll never be mainstream just like the majority of rock bands. Somebody told they'll disappear, well, it depends. It won't be because they play something somebody else already did, or we would have 3 active artists in the world. If they'll disappear it'll be because their new songs won't be good (or commercially good anyway) and their label will stop to spend money for them because of that. Give them 2 singles as catchy as Kathleen and Cocoon for their first two singles from their 2nd album, a great promotion, and let's see what happens. Maybe they have something better, who knows? Who can tell that? I just thought one or two points you were raising were a little unusual or coming from some trivial angles. I think the band's lack of originality is plain for all to see, but as one of the more active fans of the band I thought it was interesting that you would state " The quality of the songs are not that great" something which I'm presuming is referring to the songwriting and not production, mix or the band's performance. As a positive talking point, again, this is pretty bottom of the barrel and as someone who owns probably just over 10 of their songs and openly questions the quality of at least some, I think obsessed lovers might be a more grounded talking point. |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 20, 2015 10:44:26 GMT -5
The first answer is an opinion. You don't like them, I do. This should end here, but that's it. I'm sick of repeating the same with, with the same answer all over. With Record label investment and catchy songs I'm clearly talking about commercial success, or at least in the guitar world area because they'll never be mainstream just like the majority of rock bands. Somebody told they'll disappear, well, it depends. It won't be because they play something somebody else already did, or we would have 3 active artists in the world. If they'll disappear it'll be because their new songs won't be good (or commercially good anyway) and their label will stop to spend money for them because of that. Give them 2 singles as catchy as Kathleen and Cocoon for their first two singles from their 2nd album, a great promotion, and let's see what happens. Maybe they have something better, who knows? Who can tell that? I just thought one or two points you were raising were a little unusual or coming from some trivial angles. I think the band's lack of originality is plain for all to see, but as one of the more active fans of the band I thought it was interesting that you would state " The quality of the songs are not that great" something which I'm presuming is referring to the songwriting and not production, mix or the band's performance. As a positive talking point, again, this is pretty bottom of the barrel and as someone who owns probably just over 10 of their songs and openly questions the quality of at least some, I think obsessed lovers might be a more grounded talking point. "The quality of the songs are not that great". Besides grammar (...) I mean that I know their songs aren't nothing special or new (and I was referring to the production as well), and at the begging I didn't like them, just look at page 1, or page 2. That phrase, I could use it for Chasing Yesterday as well. But I still love the album. But music can go over that, when I listen to their songs I feel something, that's it. Probably because I am 21 and I can relate to that easily, but it's not only a matter of age. If I have to give to The Balcony an objective grade between 1 - 10 I would give it a 6.5. And honestly, I would give to Chasing Yesterday a 6.5/7 as well. But it's still my favourite LP of the year. I'm defending the fact that you don't need to be perfect, I think they have something better than perfection, something special. That's what I think. - About the catchy discussion: facts prove they're one of the catchiest new british rock bands, if catchy means catching the attention of people. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 20, 2015 12:00:21 GMT -5
Heh..
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 23, 2015 7:26:00 GMT -5
How this wasn't on the album... "I’m sat with Bondy recording guitars for No.2 and our UK Tour starts next week!! See you soon Van x"  Dave Fucking Sardy in the background..... |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 23, 2015 10:25:54 GMT -5
How this wasn't on the album... "I’m sat with Bondy recording guitars for No.2 and our UK Tour starts next week!! See you soon Van x" Dave Fucking Sardy in the background..... If you want your career to screech to a halt, no better man to call than Dave Sardy.  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 23, 2015 10:35:24 GMT -5
Has Van got one of those caps Liam and Noel used to wear for a bit in the nineties?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 23, 2015 10:45:20 GMT -5
How this wasn't on the album... "I’m sat with Bondy recording guitars for No.2 and our UK Tour starts next week!! See you soon Van x" Dave Fucking Sardy in the background..... If you want your career to screech to a halt, no better man to call than Dave Sardy. Looks like a cap John Lennon wore when he was entering his Dylan phase. Of course that later influenced Noel and Liam in 1997.  |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 23, 2015 11:03:45 GMT -5
That's Bondy, the guitarist, he always wear that hat. I think it never seen the washing machine I'm not a fan of Dave Sardy either, according to Van on a song called Oxygen they sound like "The Kinks covered by The Queens of Stone Age" thanks to him. That's something Noel would say and he had the same producer, Dave Sardy is the devil  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 23, 2015 11:10:25 GMT -5
That's Bondy, the guitarist, he always wear that hat. I think it never seen the washing machine I'm not a fan of Dave Sardy either, according to Van on a song called Oxygen they sound like "The Kinks covered by The Queens of Stone Age" thanks to him. That's something Noel would say and he had the same producer, Dave Sardy is the devil I love the game we all play with how Noel describes his songs. I fucking love it. Nothing tops this one......... "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles."
- On Record Machine in 2002. |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 23, 2015 13:28:18 GMT -5
That's Bondy, the guitarist, he always wear that hat. I think it never seen the washing machine I'm not a fan of Dave Sardy either, according to Van on a song called Oxygen they sound like "The Kinks covered by The Queens of Stone Age" thanks to him. That's something Noel would say and he had the same producer, Dave Sardy is the devil I love the game we all play with how Noel describes his songs. I fucking love it. Nothing tops this one......... "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles."
- On Record Machine in 2002. Hahahah I missed that until now! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 23, 2015 14:55:01 GMT -5
That's Bondy, the guitarist, he always wear that hat. I think it never seen the washing machine I'm not a fan of Dave Sardy either, according to Van on a song called Oxygen they sound like "The Kinks covered by The Queens of Stone Age" thanks to him. That's something Noel would say and he had the same producer, Dave Sardy is the devil I love the game we all play with how Noel describes his songs. I fucking love it. Nothing tops this one......... "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles."
- On Record Machine in 2002. Would have wet myself if it was. It's not even slightly like that. Not even a fourth. It's not even a Ringo song ffs! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 23, 2015 16:42:45 GMT -5
The longevity of this thread is more concerning than the BHN re-issue thread. End this tragic monstrosity, NOW!!!
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Post by globe on Oct 23, 2015 16:50:40 GMT -5
That's Bondy, the guitarist, he always wear that hat. I think it never seen the washing machine I'm not a fan of Dave Sardy either, according to Van on a song called Oxygen they sound like "The Kinks covered by The Queens of Stone Age" thanks to him. That's something Noel would say and he had the same producer, Dave Sardy is the devil I love the game we all play with how Noel describes his songs. I fucking love it. Nothing tops this one......... "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles."
- On Record Machine in 2002. Lyla - "It's like The Who on Skol". |
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Post by globe on Oct 26, 2015 6:07:59 GMT -5
I love the game we all play with how Noel describes his songs. I fucking love it. Nothing tops this one......... "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles."
- On Record Machine in 2002. Lyla - "It's like The Who on Skol". Actually, I just checked and it was actaully "the Soundtrack of Our Lives doing the Who on Skol in a psychedelic city in the sky". |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2015 7:31:05 GMT -5
Lyla - "It's like The Who on Skol". Actually, I just checked and it was actually "the Soundtrack of Our Lives doing the Who on Skol in a psychedelic city in the sky". What the fuck does that even mean? Lyla is so basic and direct. |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 26, 2015 7:48:00 GMT -5
New songs in 2-3 days time   |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 28, 2015 8:31:25 GMT -5
At the end I'm going to the Brixton show, can't wait!
"I think there are so many bands who are better than us as at recording, writing songs, singing and playing guitars or whatever, but in terms of creating an atmosphere I think we’re the best. At this year’s festivals, no band will throw a rave like we can.”:
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Oct 29, 2015 4:19:40 GMT -5
New song they played last night
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 29, 2015 4:30:06 GMT -5
Better video
I smell a B-side right there
Hope they'll play that Oxygen song Van McCann named on Zane Lowe's show.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 29, 2015 4:39:28 GMT -5
"I think there are so many bands who are better than us as at recording, writing songs, singing and playing guitars" Finally, the lad's talking a bit of sense. |
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Post by welshylad on Oct 29, 2015 10:50:28 GMT -5
I'll be recording them in Cardiff tonight
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 29, 2015 12:21:23 GMT -5
I'll be recording them in Cardiff tonight Great mate, enjoy the gig. Hope they'll play other new songs, Oxygen please! |
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Post by welshylad on Nov 1, 2015 6:12:40 GMT -5
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