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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 17, 2015 23:13:29 GMT -5
Can't get into them for whatever reason. Something seems off.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 18, 2015 0:28:47 GMT -5
Can't get into them for whatever reason. Something seems off. Seconded. Shed Seven wannabes. Poor, seeing as Shed Seven are dire, as well.  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 18, 2015 3:07:57 GMT -5
After all the praise and the fact I love a good British band, I decided to listen to more of their songs. They aren't bad, but not very good either. Something is lacking. I don't think I'll be listening to them a lot.
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 18, 2015 3:35:48 GMT -5
Damn it sucks that a lot of people hate them. They make really catchy pop rock just like Oasis and even sort of act like them in the tabloids. They have some really strong songs like Homesick, Fallout, Rango, and Tyrants. I don't get the hate! ... |
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Post by scott1 on Oct 18, 2015 6:22:05 GMT -5
I stand by the opinion that the songwriting is strong.
Given Van's ear for a melody and a solid song structure, I'm still anticipating enjoying the second album regardless of how it's received by others.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 18, 2015 8:24:17 GMT -5
Temples are a better band.
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Oct 18, 2015 9:24:40 GMT -5
I don't mind them at all, some people are really obsessed with hating them for some reason...
They do have possibly the shittest band name of all time however.
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Post by Manualex on Oct 18, 2015 9:26:09 GMT -5
I don't mind them at all, some people are really obsessed with hating them for some reason... They do have possibly the shittest band name of all time however. Viva Brother? |
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Post by cammightsay on Oct 18, 2015 12:04:50 GMT -5
Fucking love them, seeing them for the 3rd time this year in a couple of weeks and I love the debut album. If things go well with the second album they have the potential to be colossal and make the same sort of damage the arctic monkeys did, possibly oasis as well
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 18, 2015 12:18:46 GMT -5
It's good that they got some haters, it's a good sign, IMHO.
When you have "haters" but your debut album in 2015 is at its 56 week on chart with a gold disc and a 10 minutes-sold out UK tour it's the best position you can wish to have. Oasis have a lot of haters too, for example.
How many guitar music bands with a debut album released after 2010 in UK had this impact? I'm thinking about Royal Blood and The 1975, I can't remember any other bands right now.
Also saying that they're as talented as One Direction is a bit unfair. One Direction may be better singers than Van McCann (Maybe than Noel as well, what's the point?) but I like his raspy vocals. As songwriters they need help, a lot of help from co-writers, while Van McCann does all the job alone. Live shows are quite different, but Catfish perform their songs fantastically.
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2015 18:40:36 GMT -5
It's good that they got some haters, it's a good sign, IMHO. When you have "haters" but your debut album in 2015 is at its 56 week on chart with a gold disc and a 10 minutes-sold out UK tour it's the best position you can wish to have. Oasis have a lot of haters too, for example. How many guitar music bands with a debut album released after 2010 in UK had this impact? I'm thinking about Royal Blood and The 1975, I can't remember any other bands right now. Also saying that they're as talented as One Direction is a bit unfair. One Direction may be better singers than Van McCann (Maybe than Noel as well, what's the point?) but I like his raspy vocals. As songwriters they need help, a lot of help from co-writers, while Van McCann does all the job alone. Live shows are quite different, but Catfish perform their songs fantastically. I will not rest easy until this band are wiped from the face of the planet!  Seriously though, it's just a joke. I don't hate the band but music's 'next big thing' won't be a retro influenced indie pop band. People have had enough of this for a while, and the next truly big thing will be something new and fresh, and devoid of the typical tired influences that make up these NME type bands. After all, the whole idea of rock n roll at the beginning was because it was novel and exciting and rebellious - something unlike anything we've ever heard. And what Catfish don't understand is that - we've heard it all before and that is the main reason why they will probably tail off into obscurity like all other acts like them. Rock is only doing itself a disservice if it keeps treading out the same ordinary bands time and time again, and until we get a bunch of lads who can really write one heck of a tune again, then I think a lot of these bands are continuing to do damage to the rock genre sadly. It's not just them, I just don't see any band with that something special that will crash into the mainstream. |
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 18, 2015 19:10:43 GMT -5
Mainstream not a chance, those days Are gone
I dont even think Arctic Monkeys Are mainstream
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2015 20:02:36 GMT -5
Mainstream not a chance, those days Are gone I dont even think Arctic Monkeys Are mainstream I think Arctic Monkeys are mainstream, judging by their single positions off AM which were really decent. As great as I think that album is, I think a lot of it was helped by their image change with that whole Elvis shtick going on with Alex Turner. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 18, 2015 20:03:38 GMT -5
I don't mind them at all, some people are really obsessed with hating them for some reason... They do have possibly the shittest band name of all time however. Viva Brother? A band desperately trying to sound like Oasis hated with a passion by the Oasis fan base. The irony is so strong. lol |
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Post by Manualex on Oct 18, 2015 20:23:18 GMT -5
Mainstream not a chance, those days Are gone I dont even think Arctic Monkeys Are mainstream I think Arctic Monkeys are mainstream, judging by their single positions off AM which were really decent. As great as I think that album is, I think a lot of it was helped by their image change with that whole Elvis shtick going on with Alex Turner. AM sounds like a band whose soul has been sterilized and replaced with the same chord progression and marmite.  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 18, 2015 20:27:07 GMT -5
I deleted this album off my computer. The entire Aqua discography remains on my iTunes.
Let that sink in: Catfish are gone, but Barbie Girl lives on. Yeah. Exactly.
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2015 20:44:00 GMT -5
I think Arctic Monkeys are mainstream, judging by their single positions off AM which were really decent. As great as I think that album is, I think a lot of it was helped by their image change with that whole Elvis shtick going on with Alex Turner. AM sounds like a band whose soul has been sterilized and replaced with the same chord progression and marmite. It seems a very marmite album on here. Very divisive, personally it's probably my favourite of theirs, but I understand why others prefer the earlier stuff. |
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Post by Manualex on Oct 18, 2015 20:49:09 GMT -5
AM sounds like a band whose soul has been sterilized and replaced with the same chord progression and marmite. It seems a very marmite album on here. Very divisive, personally it's probably my favourite of theirs, but I understand why others prefer the earlier stuff. Its their best sounding album but I dont feel like I did 10 years ago when I first listened to Dancefloor. Only R U Mine and Do I Wanna Know? are the songs I like from AM. Hopefully the new LPS album is better. |
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
It seems a very marmite album on here. Very divisive, personally it's probably my favourite of theirs, but I understand why others prefer the earlier stuff. Its their best sounding album but I dont feel like I did 10 years ago when I first listened to Dancefloor. Only R U Mine and Do I Wanna Know? are the songs I like from AM. Hopefully the new LPS album is better. I don't think they can sing the kind of songs they used to sing now - they've moved on, all a lot older and they are all rich and famous to be singing songs about the mundanity of life in Sheffield. Sensibly they moved on I think. |
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Post by Manualex on Oct 18, 2015 21:02:16 GMT -5
Its their best sounding album but I dont feel like I did 10 years ago when I first listened to Dancefloor. Only R U Mine and Do I Wanna Know? are the songs I like from AM. Hopefully the new LPS album is better. I don't think they can sing the kind of songs they used to sing now - they've moved on, all a lot older and they are all rich and famous to be singing songs about the mundanity of life in Sheffield. Sensibly they moved on I think. Yeah probably for the best. Just that no other newer band filled the hole that AM left when Alex Turner started to live in America. At least they are sincere about ir and have moved on unlike other band whose forum am in. |
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2015 21:19:14 GMT -5
I don't think they can sing the kind of songs they used to sing now - they've moved on, all a lot older and they are all rich and famous to be singing songs about the mundanity of life in Sheffield. Sensibly they moved on I think. Yeah probably for the best. Just that no other newer band filled the hole that AM left when Alex Turner started to live in America. At least they are sincere about ir and have moved on unlike other band whose forum am in. Also, encouragment for those who didn't like AM is the fact that aside from the first two albums (where Favourite Worst Nightmare was a natural sequel to the debut), Arctic Monkeys haven't made the same album twice. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 18, 2015 21:47:28 GMT -5
Yeah probably for the best. Just that no other newer band filled the hole that AM left when Alex Turner started to live in America. At least they are sincere about ir and have moved on unlike other band whose forum am in. Also, encouragment for those who didn't like AM is the fact that aside from the first two albums (where Favourite Worst Nightmare was a natural sequel to the debut), Arctic Monkeys haven't made the same album twice. There's just so much filler dross on AM, it's mind bogglingly annoying. FWN, and Humbug do it for me though. Both very dark, moody albums. Brilliant. (And I use to deplore Humbug, like I do now with AM haha). |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 19, 2015 14:34:57 GMT -5
Of course Arctic Monkeys are mainstream. And so are Catfish and the Bottlemen. The difference is that Arctic Monkeys have written some great tunes and have made it bigger. They have something CATB are lacking. I'm not saying they're a fantastic band, they're obviously not in the same league as the obvious bands, but AM are definitely better than CATB.
Oh yeah..
IN MY OPINION!!!!
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Post by lamboasis on Oct 20, 2015 3:55:18 GMT -5
Don't put words I never said in my mouth, please.
Arctic Monkeys are my 2nd favourite act ever, so... Are they mainstream? Honestly, I don't really think so. Maybe in UK, but if you go out in the street I don't know how many people would tell you they know who they are. But that's not the point. Let's say AM are mainstream, but they are the only ones. And they changed their style to get there (and don't get me wrong, I like AM).
The fact - because it's a fact - is that Catfish and the Bottlemen are one of the biggest new coming bands in UK. That's because they have an album that is still on the chart after 57 weeks and they're getting new fans everyday. The album is also a Gold disc and their tour sold out in minutes. How many debuting guitar music bands achieved this after 2010? Royal Blood, The 1975, who else?
I still think the fact that they have haters is actually good. The quality of the songs is not that great, we all know that. It's not something new, it's not original, it's not fucki** psychedelic space jazz with shades of synthwhatever (oh god the critics would die for this) but it's rock, or pop\rock, straight forward music for "people who want to have a great time after 5 days at work". Nobody said they are Pink Floyd, nobody said they are The Rolling Stones. Not only that, with all these bands putting the synth everywhere, trying to make "coolest" songs as a trend we can say Catfish are doing something slightly different from the current state of music. Something we heard before? Yes. But I can relate that to almost anyone.
Also, assuming that they'll end up destroying themselves is quite strange. If they'll get more success it will depend on how much Island Records will invest in this band and how good is the 2nd (and 3rd etc.) album. And I mean that if they Have at least 2 catchy songs like Cocoon and Kathleen they'll be alright.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 20, 2015 8:41:40 GMT -5
Don't put words I never said in my mouth, please. Arctic Monkeys are my 2nd favourite act ever, so... Are they mainstream? Honestly, I don't really think so. Maybe in UK, but if you go out in the street I don't know how many people would tell you they know who they are. But that's not the point. Let's say AM are mainstream, but they are the only ones. And they changed their style to get there (and don't get me wrong, I like AM). The fact - because it's a fact - is that Catfish and the Bottlemen are one of the biggest new coming bands in UK. That's because they have an album that is still on the chart after 57 weeks and they're getting new fans everyday. The album is also a Gold disc and their tour sold out in minutes. How many debuting guitar music bands achieved this after 2010? Royal Blood, The 1975, who else? I still think the fact that they have haters is actually good. The quality of the songs is not that great, we all know that. It's not something new, it's not original, it's not fucki** psychedelic space jazz with shades of synthwhatever (oh god the critics would die for this) but it's rock, or pop\rock, straight forward music for "people who want to have a great time after 5 days at work". Nobody said they are Pink Floyd, nobody said they are The Rolling Stones. Usually I leave it at that. I mean, why bother? I think the band attracts a lot of 'haters' due to a number of good reasons, one of which being the large fan base the band has quickly amassed in their very short (and arguably fruitless) careers. It's nice to see people achieve success but when so many great bands pump album after album of quality material and still receive less than a tenth of what Catfish & the Bottlemen are amassing, the world seems just that bit more unjust and monotonous than you thought before. Also when looking and listening to the band you can't help but feel as if the band agenda is to appeal to as wide of an audience as can possibly be achieved by an indie band. When calculated commerciality outways an artist's songwriting output can they be considered a serious music vehicle or are they just an empty carcass pretending to be a serious music vehicle? Leather jackets and guitars at the ready I'm sure they'll convince a field or two. Record label investment? At least 2 catchy songs? What kind of aspirations are these? Why are people trying to make up excuses for them? |
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