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Post by Jailbird on Oct 25, 2014 11:28:44 GMT -5
Wondering if Gem and Noel will do something together soon hint hint
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 11:35:23 GMT -5
Don't think twice, it's alright........
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2014 11:37:35 GMT -5
Wondering if Gem and Noel will do something together soon hint hint
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 25, 2014 11:39:24 GMT -5
Both their records aren't too bad, considering the shit music we get today. But i guess Liam couldn't be bothered to tour for such a small audience, his ego in the way and all that. He need to sort his life together and realize he's made huge mistakes.
Liam solo album coming your way 2015/2016. He just has to do it. Low key, raw, whatever. But his own.
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 25, 2014 11:42:01 GMT -5
that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. . Why would Liam and Noel need Gem and Andy? I don't believe they are reforming any time soon but if Noel and Liam decided to get back together they could get anyone to play the other instruments. Noel and Liam are Oasis.
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 25, 2014 11:42:51 GMT -5
Liam is going to be on the next cover of NME next week. The headline was "O little brother where art thou" and "Over to you Liam". So maybe this break up wasn't all that sudden, probably going to hear his next move or something like that in that issue. Has the scans surfaced yet?
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2014 11:45:13 GMT -5
that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. . Why would Liam and Noel need Gem and Andy? I don't believe they are reforming any time soon but if Noel and Liam decided to get back together they could get anyone to pay the other instruments. Noel and Liam are Oasis. And, lets be fair on them, Bonehead and Guigsy are more Oasis than Gem and Andy would ever have been. They had the character, the mentality of Oasis - the scruffy gang on the Burnage council estate who ruled the world. Gem and Andy are dad rock in comparison.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 11:45:26 GMT -5
that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. . Why would Liam and Noel need Gem and Andy? I don't believe they are reforming any time soon but if Noel and Liam decided to get back together they could get anyone to pay the other instruments. Noel and Liam are Oasis. I'd be on board with this for sure. Not an Oasis reunion. But a Gallagher reunion. Gallagher's making Gallagher music. Nothing better. It would be like Chris and Tony Griffiths making their music with The Real People.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 25, 2014 11:48:02 GMT -5
The writing was on the wall really. I thought they did a good job with the first record and tour, I think everyone's enthusiasm waned pretty early on second time round.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Oct 25, 2014 11:48:36 GMT -5
this section's as busy as it's ever been - in Southeast Asia we'd call this kind of thing bad karma.
God bless.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 11:51:15 GMT -5
The writing was on the wall really. I thought they did a good job with the first record and tour, I think everyone's enthusiasm waned pretty early on second time round. I think the many filler tracks, lack of a mainstream single along with the 60's style sound is what killed the potential success for BE. It scared everyone off. Had they led off with BE, I think they might still be around.
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Post by cigsandalc on Oct 25, 2014 11:57:09 GMT -5
That´s really sad. Just been listening to Beady Eye this morning I also don´t really get why Liam "announced" it. When they need a break, they would do it without splitting the band up. So maybe there is at least a plan for Liams future (or/and Gem and Andy)
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 12:02:24 GMT -5
That´s really sad. Just been listening to Beady Eye this morning I also don´t really get why Liam "announced" it. When they need a break, they would do it without splitting the band up. So maybe there is at least a plan for Liams future (or/and Gem and Andy) Hopefully there is some plan at work, but it could just be to ease any fans mind about when they'll get around the working on the album. They've decided not to, so now we know.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 25, 2014 12:05:23 GMT -5
Well that was somewhat unexpected. Can't let Noel hog all the limelight, eh? Unless they reunite (or Oasis do) I can see him taking a few years off before coming back with a solo album. I personally think he's a better song writer than both Gem & Archer however it does seem that at times he needs others to 'embellish' his work, either musically or lyrically. Hopefully he'll work with interesting people either solo-wise, or as a new group.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 12:07:46 GMT -5
Wondering if Gem and Noel will do something together soon hint hint
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves.
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 25, 2014 12:09:10 GMT -5
I also hope they didn't end on bad terms. I hope the decision was mutual between the 4. Likewise. I think Beady Eye did well. The first album was Oasis outtakes (don't say you wouldn't have wanted to hear them! maybe in a box set) then second was a much more well developed effort with some great tunes. To me, BE (barring a couple tracks) is as good as any post 2000 Oasis album. And that is a good thing. I also consider myself fortunate to have seen them live a few years ago.It was an amazing performance, with the band really trying to do their best and prove their salt rather than coast on past successes. Whatever happens next, I hope Liam, Gem, Andy and Chris are feeling positive like its a fresh start. Start Anew, right?
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Oct 25, 2014 12:14:14 GMT -5
Wondering if Gem and Noel will do something together soon hint hint
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times. i'm guessing you won't be attending the BDi memorial asado cuddle party...? God bless.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2014 12:16:47 GMT -5
It can't solely be because of tanking commercially, and poor album reviews and sales.
Let's use The Twang as a case study. As you well know, I like The Twang, but admittedly never lived up to their potential. Even their hyped debut album back in 2007 only got mediocre reviews, and each album after tanked - you'd e even hard pressed to find a handful of reviews from their 2013 album, such is how irrelevant and supposedly dire they have become.
And yet, they've made four albums over the last seven years, and are still together, and will probably release their fifth in a couple years time.
Maybe the interest within BDI just simply waned, perhaps as a consequence of not being successful enough. Or perhaps Liam's private life got too entangled, recently. Or maybe some of the other members wanted to move on, for whatever reason. And I don't dare mention the "R" word again in this thread. But for album sales alone? Nah, there's more to it than that....
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 25, 2014 12:18:42 GMT -5
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves. Besides the banter on stage if you listened to a bootleg it was always the same show. Thats why I stopped collecting them. A show in London is the same as one in NY. Same setlist year after year.
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Post by Rain on Oct 25, 2014 12:19:50 GMT -5
Many Oasis fans slagged off Beady Eye, but besides sticking to the safe acoustic songs and having one the worst band name in rock history. The band wasn't bad and had solid tunes. The last promo of their album BE was a disaster. Many fans ignoring Liam's mid life crisis. Let's face it, the man is having a major one. Liam younger than most men of having one, but most don't experience the amount of success Liam had at a young age. His career is muddle state. Noel is right saying Liam is more emotional one compare to himself. Liam has been on this kick since 2009. It will stop once he finds a spot of happiness. Gem is a talented guitarist, but I really hope not to see him in NGHFB to be honest. We all know Noel loves Gem. Hoping that Gem doesnt join NGHFB, i would be extremely disappointed with Noel if he did that, would be like Paul McCartney letting an ex Beatle ride along in his band. No way. Gem should cut his losses and start a fresh new band with him singing and write some good tracks. Andy should start back Ride or Hurricane #1 again and Chris should reform the La's. MCCA was driven near insane status in Let It Be album over control. Rest of the band hated MCCA wanting to film the recording process of the album.
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Post by Bellboy on Oct 25, 2014 12:21:57 GMT -5
Inevitable but still gutted! I saw their 1st UK gig & I saw their last as it turns out!
"Somewhere in my heart the beat goes on"
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Post by supernovadragon on Oct 25, 2014 12:22:55 GMT -5
Must admit am shocked...just for the timing really, just seems so out the blue so to speak. However, considering how Liam had stopped following Andy and Gem/Lou etc after everything with Nicole happened, I felt it was only a matter of time. I wouldn't be surprised if tensions had grown within them all after the cheating came out and it's led to this
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Post by icebreath on Oct 25, 2014 12:24:42 GMT -5
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves. You were lucky enough to watch Oasis live. That's why you're never gonna get it. Oasis was the band that changed my life and i was never too lucky ,as you was, to watch them at least one fucking time (not 11 ). I want to hear live all the songs that changed a generation and i don't really care if it's a step backward for Noel's career or whatever. I want both brothers to have successful musical projects outside Oasis but in the future (near or distant) i want them to get back together. With or without a new album. I don't care.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2014 12:28:16 GMT -5
Finally, they were good at performing other peoples tunes, thats all. Great cover band. I'm not discounting the good tunes they did come up with, and I'm not joking when I say this: But Sons of the Stage was the best thing they did, in my opinion. It had a real Oasis vibe to it, and I wish Oasis not only covered it, but wish they actually wrote it, too. It's perhaps my favorite Oasis-related cover, after Cum On Feel the Noize (which is insanely epic, it must be noted).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 12:30:47 GMT -5
Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves. You were lucky enough to watch Oasis live. That's why you're never gonna get it. Oasis was the band that changed my life and i was never too lucky ,as you was, to watch them at least one fucking time (not 11 ). I want to hear live all the songs that changed a generation and i don't really care if it's a step backward for Noel's career or whatever. I want both brothers to have successful musical projects outside Oasis but in the future (near or distant) i want them to get back together. With or without a new album. I don't care. Fair enough. For me it's going backwards. I love the stuff Noel is cooking up as a solo artist and enjoyed Beady Eye attempting to expand their sound. It's good having a "happy" and inspired Noel again.
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