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Post by LlAM on Nov 6, 2014 11:47:19 GMT -5
How is Liam supposed to suddenly have enough good songs to make a solo album? How do you know what songs he has right now? I don't, and neither does anyone else around here. But my bet is, if he had an album worth of good tracks up his sleeve, he would've released them with Beady Eye. Or maybe he let them have the average ones and was secretly stockpiling the good ones for a future solo album? |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Nov 6, 2014 11:52:04 GMT -5
How do you know what songs he has right now? I don't, and neither does anyone else around here. But my bet is, if he had an album worth of good tracks up his sleeve, he would've released them with Beady Eye. Or maybe he let them have the average ones and was secretly stockpiling the good ones for a future solo album? so maybe, this is what happened to BE ? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 6, 2014 12:46:12 GMT -5
How do you know what songs he has right now? I don't, and neither does anyone else around here. But my bet is, if he had an album worth of good tracks up his sleeve, he would've released them with Beady Eye. Or maybe he let them have the average ones and was secretly stockpiling the good ones for a future solo album? Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 13:20:19 GMT -5
I don't, and neither does anyone else around here. But my bet is, if he had an album worth of good tracks up his sleeve, he would've released them with Beady Eye. Or maybe he let them have the average ones and was secretly stockpiling the good ones for a future solo album? Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. I still don't understand how "The Roller" couldn't land on Heathen Chemistry or Don't Believe The Truth. It's too strong to be left on the sidelines until 2011!  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2014 13:45:35 GMT -5
Yeah. I was really surprised when I found out it had already been there since the HC period.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 6, 2014 13:53:32 GMT -5
Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. I still don't understand how "The Roller" couldn't land on Heathen Chemistry or Don't Believe The Truth. It's too strong to be left on the sidelines until 2011! Exactly, it would have gone on both those albums quite nicely and would have been superior to 5 or 6 on each. Well definitely better than 5 or 6 on HC. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 6, 2014 13:54:19 GMT -5
Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. I still don't understand how "The Roller" couldn't land on Heathen Chemistry or Don't Believe The Truth. It's too strong to be left on the sidelines until 2011! We'll never what form it was in or the progression it took from HC to DGSS. Before horns were put on FOTF would any have chosen it as an album track? Maybe as something to be developed, which appears to have happened multiple times, but not as an outright album track based on an acoustic performance alone. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 13:55:59 GMT -5
I still don't understand how "The Roller" couldn't land on Heathen Chemistry or Don't Believe The Truth. It's too strong to be left on the sidelines until 2011! We'll never what form it was in or the progression it took from HC to DGSS. Before horns were put on FOTF would any have chosen it as an album track? Maybe as something to be developed, which appears to have happened multiple times, but not as an outright album track based on an acoustic performance alone. Well one song (FOTF) began as an instrumental during the Death In Vegas sessions. On the other hand, The Roller fits perfectly the description Noel gave of the song back in the winter of 2000. I can't imagine it sounded too different from how it ended up on DGSS. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 6, 2014 14:01:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand how "The Roller" couldn't land on Heathen Chemistry or Don't Believe The Truth. It's too strong to be left on the sidelines until 2011! We'll never what form it was in or the progression it took from HC to DGSS. Before horns were put on FOTF would any have chosen it as an album track? Maybe as something to be developed, which appears to have happened multiple times, but not as an outright album track based on an acoustic performance alone. I agree with FOTF definitely, the horns are pretty big part of the finish studio song and while the band I think said they wanted the horns on it maybe it hadn't occurred to them before. I may be being ignorant but with The Roller I just imagine the demo having acoustic guitar and piano, I don't know it just seems like it would have. It was formed well enough for Noel to praise it. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 14:12:29 GMT -5
Imagine how better "Don't Believe The Truth" could have been with the additions of The Roller, Record Machine and Boy With The Blues?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2014 14:25:53 GMT -5
Imagine how better "Don't Believe The Truth" could have been with the additions of The Roller, Record Machine and Boy With The Blues? Which songs would you replace them with? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 14:52:44 GMT -5
Imagine how better "Don't Believe The Truth" could have been with the additions of The Roller, Record Machine and Boy With The Blues? Which songs would you replace them with? Oh, that's the easy part! - The Meaning of Soul (The Roller)
- Keep The Dream Alive (Record Machine)
- Let There Be Love (Boy With The Blues) |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 6, 2014 14:57:20 GMT -5
I was just thinking about that.
Turn up the Sun
Mucky Fingers
Lyla
Love Like a Bomb
The Importance of Being Idle
The Meaning of Soul
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel
*Boy With The Blues*
*The Roller*
A Bell Will Ring
*Record Machine*
That would be mine I think.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2014 15:16:42 GMT -5
Which songs would you replace them with? Oh, that's the easy part! - The Meaning of Soul (The Roller)
- Keep The Dream Alive (Record Machine)
- Let There Be Love (Boy With The Blues)Agree. Except LTBL. I like that one too much. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 15:18:58 GMT -5
Oh, that's the easy part! - The Meaning of Soul (The Roller)
- Keep The Dream Alive (Record Machine)
- Let There Be Love (Boy With The Blues)Agree. Except LTBL. I like that one too much. It's an okay song. For me it is way too slow and just crawls through the entire 5 minutes. I really liked Noel's old acoustic demo from the SOTSOG sessions. If you put a gun to my head, I'd go Boy With The Blues every time. |
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Post by stevemeister on Nov 6, 2014 15:32:27 GMT -5
I fuckin love The Meaning of Soul.....Elvis on Steroids.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 15:40:43 GMT -5
I fuckin love The Meaning of Soul.....Elvis on Steroids. More like Elvis on the toilet with a fried banana sandwich.  |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 6, 2014 17:45:42 GMT -5
While we're on the subject I thought Meaning of Soul was brilliant live with the extended intro. It's awful as an acoustic song on the album though
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 6, 2014 17:56:04 GMT -5
While we're on the subject I thought Meaning of Soul was brilliant live with the extended intro. It's awful as an acoustic song on the album though I prefer it, although I like both versions. |
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Post by stevemeister on Nov 6, 2014 18:03:28 GMT -5
This song is fucking mental man...one of my favs from this album.
I don't get the hate.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 7, 2014 2:52:02 GMT -5
I don't, and neither does anyone else around here. But my bet is, if he had an album worth of good tracks up his sleeve, he would've released them with Beady Eye. Or maybe he let them have the average ones and was secretly stockpiling the good ones for a future solo album? Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. Either Liam's secretly a songwriting genius and he's been holding the good songs back from Beady Eye, in which case he's a massive knobhead. Or he's already released his best material, which stank the place up, in which case he's just useless/untalented. So which is he? A knobhead or useless/untalented? Some would say all of the above, although I wouldn't dare suggest that... |
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 7, 2014 3:00:10 GMT -5
Wow, it's that shit that you can already smell it a year before it's released? all your constant bashing is getting very tiring. You don't like him, fine. You've made your point several times. Now move on Why would you say I don't like Liam? I love Liam. He's been my hero for 20 years. But I can also see that Liam has been acting like an utter knobhead for the past 3, 4 years. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2014 3:42:32 GMT -5
Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. Either Liam's secretly a songwriting genius and he's been holding the good songs back from Beady Eye, in which case he's a massive knobhead. Or he's already released his best material, which stank the place up, in which case he's just useless/untalented. So which is he? A knobhead or useless/untalented? Some would say all of the above, although I wouldn't dare suggest that... You don't know what he has or what he is yet to write. You stink this place up bad every time you come back. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 7, 2014 4:01:47 GMT -5
Well FOTF is old and wasn't considered for DGSS or Oasis. Gem's The Roller was better than quite a few of the Oasis songs put out on HC and beyond. Noel had songs that didn't get consideration for DOYS and has just finished a Lock All The Doors for this record! Liam might have nothing but he might have a lot of demo's around that need finishing or tinkering. Judging from what he has said before and what we've heard about how much he writes it would be reasonable to assume he has a few knocking about. Either Liam's secretly a songwriting genius and he's been holding the good songs back from Beady Eye, in which case he's a massive knobhead. Or he's already released his best material, which stank the place up, in which case he's just useless/untalented. So which is he? A knobhead or useless/untalented? Some would say all of the above, although I wouldn't dare suggest that... Or he has grown more as a songwriter since the release of BE and has written a few great ones. This is a bit unlikely and unfortunately I have to agree with your post, although I think you could have phrased it a bit differently. *sings* Why you gotta be so ruuuuude? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2014 4:48:57 GMT -5
Either Liam's secretly a songwriting genius and he's been holding the good songs back from Beady Eye, in which case he's a massive knobhead. Or he's already released his best material, which stank the place up, in which case he's just useless/untalented. So which is he? A knobhead or useless/untalented? Some would say all of the above, although I wouldn't dare suggest that... Or he has grown more as a songwriter since the release of BE and has written a few great ones. This is a bit unlikely and unfortunately I have to agree with your post, although I think you could have phrased it a bit differently. *sings* Why you gotta be so ruuuuude? Liam has consistently written some decent tunes. I see no reason why he can't write some more. He will definitely need a guiding hand though. I don't know if you have seen leak4ever before mate but he's one of the most boring troll around. Unfortunately he keeps turning up. |
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