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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 2, 2014 17:48:38 GMT -5
I can't believe over a week later we haven't heard anything more on the matter
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 17:49:01 GMT -5
i think the way its been handled is ridiculous they not got many fans left and the ones they have this split shown no respect to them. Don't worry like i said i pretty much agree with your views and probably its liam that probably said "whatever its not worked lets call it a day' just unfair to tar him with the way its been handled when there was 4 grown men in this 'equal' band cos he tweeted it.. but yes 'the band / mgt to blame' As Noel said himself, people criticised him for being over controlling. But he controlled them all the way to the top. BDI badly needed some proper guidance. this is a different point but thats true and thats why he was the "chief" and thats why the pretence of oasis 2.0 of a democracy band was in control of noel |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 2, 2014 17:53:55 GMT -5
I can't believe over a week later we haven't heard anything more on the matter We'll hear nothing until Liam release a new record, let's face it. I wouldn't have been suprised if we'll have now a year or more without any info about him. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 2, 2014 18:01:15 GMT -5
I can't believe over a week later we haven't heard anything more on the matter We'll hear nothing until Liam release a new record, let's face it. I wouldn't have been suprised if we'll have now a year or more without any info about him. Nah surely liam will capitalise on the public interest and do a Q or Nme interview to set the record straight? He owes that much to the fans Liam and Lee Mavers should team up and do an album / tour |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2014 20:44:19 GMT -5
We'll hear nothing until Liam release a new record, let's face it. I wouldn't have been suprised if we'll have now a year or more without any info about him. Nah surely liam will capitalise on the public interest and do a Q or Nme interview to set the record straight? He owes that much to the fans Liam and Lee Mavers should team up and do an album / tour Lee Mavers? I'm convinced he got sucked up into one of those space ships from Close Encounters of The Third Kind.   |
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Post by dtr2014 on Nov 3, 2014 7:40:19 GMT -5
My two cents:
1. Oasis will not have a reunion. Noel will see himself in the Johnny Marr role. He left the band and it has it's legacy. Any reunion would only cheapen that.
2. Since Liam and Noel are on "good terms" (qualified by "as good as could be"), Liam might've heard Noel's album, realized Beady Eye weren't coming close, and decided to pack it in.
3. Regarding comments about the length of Noel's tour, that's the way artists now make money. There's not a lot of money in record sales these days. When he says he has to tour to support the album, that's true, but the road is where big money is made, if at all.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 3, 2014 11:05:51 GMT -5
It's not about the profit. It's about not having the success/scale he craved. I just don't buy that. He knew starting out that things were going to be different. He was in an interview one night with Nicole and they joked about not touring in luxury anymore like they did with Oasis. I don't think he would have done BE if that was the problem. He would have given up after DGSS. Actually I found that kind of an uncomfortable joke. She totally tried to change the subject. He said they didn't travel as well and that Nicole used to your with him often in Oasis when it was the best of everything but she didn't go with BDI. Might have been a little crack in the marriage. There was an article in the NME around BE's time that was about him saying that touring wasn't worth it without without drivers and nice hotels. There was a comment in it of the journalist to Liam asking how he felt about criticism that BDI were a small band trying to tour like Oasis and Liam brushed it off. I don't believe that Liam didn't care about sales. He cared. There were so many little comments about record sales. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 3, 2014 11:23:04 GMT -5
He told Q magazine: "If we're barking up the wrong tree with this record, I don't know if I can be arsed barking up it again." THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED. END OF. I'm well aware of the statement. Have been for some time. Which begs the question...why now? Did it really take him a year to figure out that BE was a failure? And my position is less on whether or not this is in fact the case. It's your insistence and declaration that IT IS the case which bothers me. It's called being intellectually dishonest. You're claiming certainty without providing the sufficient support for certainty. I would think that 6 months on would be the time at which it would start being an appropriate time to regroup and think about starting to do a few demos etc. I don't think that he left BDI in a fit of pique because the album sales weren't good enough. I think he had a bit of distance from the band to evaluate where the band were going and he couldn't see them going anywhere so what was the point in trying yet another album. Also...DGSS wasn't a flop per se at least commercially. Unexceptional but they at least had a gold record. They sold a decent amount. BE's sales were far below DGSS. It was possible that they could have grown in popularity from 1st to 2nd album. But they didn't. And looking at the trend from DGSS to BE it makes sense that a big name like Liam would think about other things he could do instead. Frankly Liam has a chance for a solo career or other ventures that again make the covers of music mags. Gem and Andy don't. Of course Liam would be the first one to pull the plug. He's got the most options. Andy had a few too. Gem is the one that's probably scratching his head a little bit. |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 3, 2014 11:40:41 GMT -5
I'm well aware of the statement. Have been for some time. Which begs the question...why now? Did it really take him a year to figure out that BE was a failure? And my position is less on whether or not this is in fact the case. It's your insistence and declaration that IT IS the case which bothers me. It's called being intellectually dishonest. You're claiming certainty without providing the sufficient support for certainty. I would think that 6 months on would be the time at which it would start being an appropriate time to regroup and think about starting to do a few demos etc. I don't think that he left BDI in a fit of pique because the album sales weren't good enough. I think he had a bit of distance from the band to evaluate where the band were going and he couldn't see them going anywhere so what was the point in trying yet another album. Also...DGSS wasn't a flop per se at least commercially. Unexceptional but they at least had a gold record. They sold a decent amount. BE's sales were far below DGSS. It was possible that they could have grown in popularity from 1st to 2nd album. But they didn't. And looking at the trend from DGSS to BE it makes sense that a big name like Liam would think about other things he could do instead. Frankly Liam has a chance for a solo career or other ventures that again make the covers of music mags. Gem and Andy don't. Of course Liam would be the first one to pull the plug. He's got the most options. Andy had a few too. Gem is the one that's probably scratching his head a little bit. here's my phone number for if you wanna 'FaceTime' some time: (740)349-0511. Thanks. |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 4, 2014 9:04:15 GMT -5
I would think that 6 months on would be the time at which it would start being an appropriate time to regroup and think about starting to do a few demos etc. I don't think that he left BDI in a fit of pique because the album sales weren't good enough. I think he had a bit of distance from the band to evaluate where the band were going and he couldn't see them going anywhere so what was the point in trying yet another album. Also...DGSS wasn't a flop per se at least commercially. Unexceptional but they at least had a gold record. They sold a decent amount. BE's sales were far below DGSS. It was possible that they could have grown in popularity from 1st to 2nd album. But they didn't. And looking at the trend from DGSS to BE it makes sense that a big name like Liam would think about other things he could do instead. Frankly Liam has a chance for a solo career or other ventures that again make the covers of music mags. Gem and Andy don't. Of course Liam would be the first one to pull the plug. He's got the most options. Andy had a few too. Gem is the one that's probably scratching his head a little bit. here's my phone number for if you wanna 'FaceTime' some time: (740)349-0511. Thanks. I keep getting hang up calls and can only assume it's eva, or Beady’s Here Now.   Thanks. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 4, 2014 9:42:34 GMT -5
Liam wants to replace Noel in Sky Sports while he'll be busy with the new album. That's what this mess is all about.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 4, 2014 13:23:56 GMT -5
here's my phone number for if you wanna 'FaceTime' some time: (740)349-0511.Thanks. I keep getting hang up calls and can only assume it's eva, or Beady’s Here Now. Thanks. So, that's not my real number, by the way. That's 'Time and Temperatures' number. It is the time and temperature where I live, though. So if anyone's curious of the time and temperature where I live is then that's the best way to find out. Right now it's 1:23 pm. and 64 F. God bless. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 4, 2014 13:39:26 GMT -5
I just don't buy that. He knew starting out that things were going to be different. He was in an interview one night with Nicole and they joked about not touring in luxury anymore like they did with Oasis. I don't think he would have done BE if that was the problem. He would have given up after DGSS. Actually I found that kind of an uncomfortable joke. She totally tried to change the subject. He said they didn't travel as well and that Nicole used to your with him often in Oasis when it was the best of everything but she didn't go with BDI. Might have been a little crack in the marriage. There was an article in the NME around BE's time that was about him saying that touring wasn't worth it without without drivers and nice hotels. There was a comment in it of the journalist to Liam asking how he felt about criticism that BDI were a small band trying to tour like Oasis and Liam brushed it off. I don't believe that Liam didn't care about sales. He cared. There were so many little comments about record sales. It was clearly a joke to be fair, I'm surprised anyone would Interpret it otherwise |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Nov 4, 2014 13:56:59 GMT -5
A little bit of information should anybody be interested.
I work for a local student radio station and I drunkenly emailed Liam's missus's firm and asked what the chances were of an interview with Liam were. Today I realised that she herself had replied saying 'Liam is not now, nor in the near future, interested in doing any interviews.'
Any chance of hearing about what Liam is up to is a million miles away, I think
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Nov 4, 2014 14:03:14 GMT -5
A little bit of information should anybody be interested. I work for a local student radio station and I drunkenly emailed Liam's missus's firm and asked what the chances were of an interview with Liam were. Today I realised that she herself had replied saying 'Liam is not now, nor in the near future, interested in doing any interviews.' Any chance of hearing about what Liam is up to is a million miles away, I think that`s pretty strange, he always seemed very polite and open to fans and had no problems with interviews it seemed. maybe he wants to create some buzz and has already something for the public. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 4, 2014 14:24:53 GMT -5
A little bit of information should anybody be interested. I work for a local student radio station and I drunkenly emailed Liam's missus's firm and asked what the chances were of an interview with Liam were. Today I realised that she herself had replied saying 'Liam is not now, nor in the near future, interested in doing any interviews.' Any chance of hearing about what Liam is up to is a million miles away, I think By missus you mean the current lady? |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Nov 4, 2014 14:27:57 GMT -5
A little bit of information should anybody be interested. I work for a local student radio station and I drunkenly emailed Liam's missus's firm and asked what the chances were of an interview with Liam were. Today I realised that she herself had replied saying 'Liam is not now, nor in the near future, interested in doing any interviews.' Any chance of hearing about what Liam is up to is a million miles away, I think By missus you mean the current lady? yes |
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 4, 2014 15:31:10 GMT -5
By missus you mean the current lady? yes Is she at ATC management? is liam officially on the books there? |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Nov 4, 2014 15:52:23 GMT -5
Is she at ATC management? is liam officially on the books there? I doubt it. I messaged her because I randomly got hold of her email address. (A friend of a friend of a friend knows her or something) |
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Post by shinealight on Nov 4, 2014 20:29:13 GMT -5
U all go it wrong:)
Liam knew he would never be as big as NGHF. There are many of reasons, jut gonna point out a few...
1.Noel does not do rock n roll anymore, u might have noticed he'sdoing "Noelie rock" for people from age 15 - age 70. Nice songs, nothig less nothing more. Not a rocket science to realise his music would attract more people to gigs, to buy his records. That does not mean BE mghtnot be better recorf thanNGHFB vol1 ( IMO it was)
2.Noel is better songwriter and BDI can t compete with him on any battlefield. songwriting, ideas etc. BDI is one geat singer, 3 above average sngwriters Noel is brilliant singer and probably the best songwriter of our generation. Liam might have hoped for better success but is not that stupid to believe BDI can actually tak any wind off Noels sails.
Liam not givng interviews might e a good thing...just to give it some time and relax. Why not? I guess will now why BI are not anymore sooner ot later.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 4, 2014 20:47:11 GMT -5
U all go it wrong:) Liam knew he would never be as big as NGHF. There are many of reasons, jut gonna point out a few... 1.Noel does not do rock n roll anymore, u might have noticed he'sdoing "Noelie rock" for people from age 15 - age 70. Nice songs, nothig less nothing more. Not a rocket science to realise his music would attract more people to gigs, to buy his records. That does not mean BE mghtnot be better recorf thanNGHFB vol1 ( IMO it was) 2.Noel is better songwriter and BDI can t compete with him on any battlefield. songwriting, ideas etc. BDI is one geat singer, 3 above average sngwriters Noel is brilliant singer and probably the best songwriter of our generation. Liam might have hoped for better success but is not that stupid to believe BDI can actually tak any wind off Noels sails. Liam not givng interviews might e a good thing...just to give it some time and relax. Why not? I guess will now why BI are not anymore sooner ot later. Thank you, Captain Obvious. Thanks. |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 4, 2014 20:52:09 GMT -5
I was in my sweat lodge meditating/spacing out today and was thinking about how unsurprising the break up of BDi really is.....both album promotions ended horrifically, both times ending with a split with management; that's never a good thing.
God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2014 21:10:35 GMT -5
I was in my sweat lodge meditating/spacing out today and was thinking about how unsurprising the break up of BDi really is.....both album promotions ended horrifically, both times ending with a split with management; that's never a good thing. God bless. I've always imagined a lot of the frustrations with Beady Eye steamed from Liam's unrealistic expectations of the band. The man is full of confidence, it's one of his strengths but I feel he had a very hard time accepting smaller gigs and album sales. I'm sure he expected a #1 album and commercial success slightly below what DOYS gave in terms of album sales. I mean Liam was the iconic singer in one of the best bands of the 90s yet couldn't generate a hit album or single. That's gotta be maddening to Liam. |
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Post by Manualex on Nov 4, 2014 23:02:42 GMT -5
I was in my sweat lodge meditating/spacing out today and was thinking about how unsurprising the break up of BDi really is.....both album promotions ended horrifically, both times ending with a split with management; that's never a good thing. God bless. I've always imagined a lot of the frustrations with Beady Eye steamed from Liam's unrealistic expectations of the band. The man is full of confidence, it's one of his strengths but I feel he had a very hard time accepting smaller gigs and album sales. I'm sure he expected a #1 album and commercial success slightly below what DOYS gave in terms of album sales. I mean Liam was the iconic singer in one of the best bands of the 90s yet couldn't generate a hit album or single. That's gotta be maddening to Liam. They had two potential hit singles, it hurt them that they were released to radio and then not sold at the same time and who was the genious that trought that CD sales didnt mattered? Yeah it wasn't meant to be a Number one album with two # 1 singles but my god sometimes the promotion of the material of the gallagher brothers makes me think that the company they use are clueless to the modern times(or are struck in the 60's, which fitted the way BDI was shot and their sound for the first LP). |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2014 23:06:43 GMT -5
I've always imagined a lot of the frustrations with Beady Eye steamed from Liam's unrealistic expectations of the band. The man is full of confidence, it's one of his strengths but I feel he had a very hard time accepting smaller gigs and album sales. I'm sure he expected a #1 album and commercial success slightly below what DOYS gave in terms of album sales. I mean Liam was the iconic singer in one of the best bands of the 90s yet couldn't generate a hit album or single. That's gotta be maddening to Liam. They had two potential hit singles, it hurt them that they were released to radio and then not sold at the same time and who was the genious that trought that CD sales didnt mattered? Yeah it wasn't meant to be a Number one album with two # 1 singles but my god sometimes the promotion of the material of the gallagher brothers makes me think that the company they use are clueless to the modern times(or are struck in the 60's, which fitted the way BDI was shot and their sound for the first LP). I'm sure Liam's new bird is whispering in his ear, "you're a star. A brand name. Go at it solo." |
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