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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 20:39:27 GMT -5
I think if they scale down, venue-wise, for this tour, they'd do a lot better. They were definitely over ambitious with the DGSS tour. Just learn from past mistakes and build on 'em. A few shows (other than Coachella if they do still plan on going ahead with it) at smaller venues. I certainly hope they end up doing that. But they're cutting it a bit close. Hell, do it in June. Gives them all of May to kick back, take a break. Then close out the BE tour by coming to the US and doing 4-5 small shows. POWER OF POSITIVE THINKING, PEOPLE!!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 20:44:43 GMT -5
Congratulations by the way! Thanks, mate. Awesome, but fucking exhausting. Already introducing Oasis to the little dude. Nothing from Be Here Now though-I don't think such young ears should be exposed to 37 overdubbed guitars playing at once. You also don't want to be asked the question "Why are there 37 overdubbed guitars playing at once daddy?" err....
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Post by spaneli on Feb 25, 2014 20:49:48 GMT -5
Because they over toured it. They had three run throughs. And on the last they tried to play to capacities that were way above what they were selling before, like in New York. Beady Eye didn't sell out that run through because of poor booking by Beady Eye. And someone like Lennon2217 can attest to that. They went above their market. That wasn't the fans fault. At the end of the DGGS tour they over toured everywhere. They had multiple gigs across the world during the DGSS tour that weren't close to selling out. They weren't selling out UK shows at the end of the DGSS tour. They're not going to stop playing shows in the UK are they? But let's focus on the American shows that didn't sell out in the last run through after two previous when clearly there were plenty of places that didn't. Is 14 or so small gigs over touring? Or a lack of interest considering some of those weren't well attended? That's all I could find anyway. I'm not saying they perhaps didn't do to much but maybe it reaches a point where it isn't worth it. As I said earlier there's nothing to say they won't be announced still it just wouldn't be that shocking if they didn't. Don't act like I'm blaming the American people for not going to see Beady Eye haha. It is when you play New York three times in a span of a year and a half. That's over touring. When the majority of those 14 are within driving distance of each other: Washington, New York, Philli, and Boston. That is over touring. Beady Eye didn't sell out those shows because of Beady Eye. As Lennon2217 says, they clearly could tour America. But they were the ones who went for gig capacities the third time through that was above what they could play. That's over booking. No one here is asking for another three New York shows. But clearly Beady Eye were successful in the limited tour set-up. As Lennon said, they have to be smarter. They won't be able to play to over 2k, but they will play to about 1,200. That would be a good show anywhere else. As Frodis said, American fans have shown that they will travel to get to gigs. If Beady Eye doesn't play here, that's on them. But audience is clearly here for a few select shows. And Caochella, New York, LA, Chicago, and Toronto would have been something doable. And to be honest, I would be shocked if they didn't. Consider all the rhetoric Liam came out with after the beginning of DGSS about how much he wanted Beady Eye to be big. To forsake the US would be a shock. Something that's feasible for a mid level band. For a band with Liam Gallagher, the former frontman of Oasis, to say it's not feasible to come to the US is a shock. Especially considering they could just as well tour as a lower bill band if they so needed to. It was good enough for Noel, it should be good enough for Beady Eye.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 25, 2014 20:53:42 GMT -5
Would love them to come here, but as I recall when they toured here in America last time, everyone was complaining that it was barely half capacity and the ones that did show up didn't have any energy. So if Beady Eye does skip out on touring here, I wouldn't blame them. I do hope they still attend Coachella though. They really need that. I think if they scale down, venue-wise, for this tour, they'd do a lot better. They were definitely over ambitious with the DGSS tour. Just learn from past mistakes and build on 'em. A few shows (other than Coachella if they do still plan on going ahead with it) at smaller venues. This. No one is asking for three shows in New York and three in LA. Coachella, New York, LA, Chicago, and Toronto would be fine. If they cut back then I think most would understand, but to skip North America...and we still don't have any South American gigs....would be baffling.
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Post by welshylad on Feb 26, 2014 3:25:40 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something and you all know it's off, or maybe this should be taken with a pinch of salt.. But I was listening back to my Cologne recording and during The World's Not Set In Stone Liam changes the lyrics to: "I've got to let you know, that Coachella is no show" Like I said, it's probably nothing because Liam was in a really bad mood, but maybe that's what all this stuff about his twitter update etc was about Can you post this recording? There's already a recording on Dime mate, kindly upped by METAMARC, my recording wont be up for a week or so. But yeh some of the stuff said at the Cologne gig: "This ones for all the scardy cats who are gonna end up back on the dole" "It's not about the rock n roll anymore, its about the fucking money" "I've got to let you know, that Coachella is no show" "Now its time to talk some shite" He definitely said "Fuck Oasis" too when the crowd were chanting it after Wonderwall. He was proper pissed off at the gig, facing his mic the other way, swinging it around, sitting down etc.. Plus his Twitter update that day, I definitely something happened with the negotiations with Coachella that pissed him off
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Post by space75gr on Feb 26, 2014 3:41:34 GMT -5
no need for drama now .we have to wait and see. i expect BE to announce US/Canada/N.America tour dates soon...
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Post by welshylad on Feb 26, 2014 3:44:36 GMT -5
Or saying that it could be something to do with this DM re-release / reunion? Fuck knows
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Post by fink621 on Feb 26, 2014 5:03:04 GMT -5
Can you post this recording? There's already a recording on Dime mate, kindly upped by METAMARC, my recording wont be up for a week or so. But yeh some of the stuff said at the Cologne gig: "This ones for all the scardy cats who are gonna end up back on the dole" "It's not about the rock n roll anymore, its about the fucking money" "I've got to let you know, that Coachella is no show" "Now its time to talk some shite" He definitely said "Fuck Oasis" too when the crowd were chanting it after Wonderwall. He was proper pissed off at the gig, facing his mic the other way, swinging it around, sitting down etc.. Plus his Twitter update that day, I definitely something happened with the negotiations with Coachella that pissed him off Yeah something had definitely got under his skin but I have to admit I enjoy those 'angry Liam' shows, brings a level of danger to the gig! Plus he shook my hand when he came onstage so there's that too
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 26, 2014 6:05:26 GMT -5
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Post by eva on Feb 26, 2014 6:16:55 GMT -5
not really. They appear in the poster, which is very old, but if you go to line-up they are not there
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Post by vespa on Feb 26, 2014 7:38:42 GMT -5
ever thought it may have something to do with liams court case??just a thought if theyve cancelled it.. also your all going on about lack of tour but simple point is theres a lack of demand , the band really dont seem interested in promoting themselves at all and the advertising as it was in oasis doesnt seem to be there , this is part and parcel of being on your own label though . oasis when they get beack should sign to a major label who will promote them properly as beady eye shouldve , the album was well received but nobody is hearing anything from it, the singles are never promoted ,the advertising budgets aint there.. if you look at noel talking from experience in the uk the guy is never off tv when his album was out . i think youll see noel maybe press for america next time round aswell
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 10:49:16 GMT -5
I think if they scale down, venue-wise, for this tour, they'd do a lot better. They were definitely over ambitious with the DGSS tour. Just learn from past mistakes and build on 'em. A few shows (other than Coachella if they do still plan on going ahead with it) at smaller venues. This. No one is asking for three shows in New York and three in LA. Coachella, New York, LA, Chicago, and Toronto would be fine. If they cut back then I think most would understand, but to skip North America...and we still don't have any South American gigs....would be baffling. Been reading your thoughts on this spaneli. I think your spot on.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 26, 2014 11:37:42 GMT -5
This all really sucks. I hate when Beady Eye or Oasis gets in rough spots.
I didn't include NGHFB because he's got his stuff together.
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 26, 2014 11:46:55 GMT -5
So is it official they cancelled Coachella? Haven't heard any confirmation from either side...
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Post by smash on Feb 26, 2014 21:10:04 GMT -5
ever thought it may have something to do with liams court case?? My first thought too. Paul's twitter indicates that Japan is still a go, so seems that the US is the only thing off the table. It sucks if this is the case because it will mean no US anything until he gets this settled - and it will be expensive. I remember reading at some point a quote where he said he paid a couple thousand a month towards Molly. That is chump change compared to what a US court will make him pay - it will be based on his earnings.
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Post by theclock on Feb 26, 2014 22:21:46 GMT -5
I just found this link on Twitter. Beady Eye won’t be playing CoachellaBeady Eye, the post-Oasis rock band fronted by Liam Gallagher, will not be playing the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival in April, a Goldenvoice spokesperson confirmed today.
The reason that Beady Eye have scotched the gig was not given. A request for comment from the band’s management had not been answered by Wednesday night Pacific time.The band — Gallagher and ex-Oasis mates Gem Archer, Andy Bell and Chris Sharrock (joined last year by ex-Kasabian guitarist Jay Mehler on bass) — released its sophomore alby “BE” last June. Beady Eye’s debut “Different Gear, Still Speeding” came out three years ago this week, in the U.S. on L.A.-based Dangerbird Records.
Beady Eye, formed after the acrimonious breakup of Oasis in 2009, was scheduled to play Thursday in Paris. They also have two March dates in Japan on their itinerary.www.buzzbands.la/2014/02/26/beady-eye-wont-playing-coachella/Coachella updated the poster, they are not there anymore.
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 27, 2014 0:00:06 GMT -5
This really pisses me off how many shows they have cancelled and let down fans yet again
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 27, 2014 0:40:21 GMT -5
Wow. Disappointed in the band. They better have a good reason. Many Beady Eye fans bought tickets just to see them play.
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Post by Nicole R. on Feb 27, 2014 1:47:30 GMT -5
I have Coachella tickets and I was excited for about two seconds last night -- maybe Beady Eye was off the bill because they were going to announce an Oasis gig this morning instead! -- but then I got realistic.
Now I'm just bummed.
I was wondering why there weren't any Northern California BE shows in April, because usually Coachella bands play up here as well. Maybe BE didn't get any good bookings and decided to pull the plug on the whole outing?
Lame. Maybe I'll sell my tickets.
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Post by waynegretzky on Feb 27, 2014 9:29:40 GMT -5
Just got word that Beady Eye has cancelled Coachella, with no reason given. I'm absolutely gutted--made plans for a trip with a friend all the way from Winnipeg just to see the boys play, flight, tickets the whole nine yards. I may still go-there will be some worthy music there I'm sure--but I never ever would have spent a large percentage of my hard earned dollars on the trip if BE wasn't playing. If I do decide to cancel, I'm going to be out a couple of hundred even if I manage to hawk the tickets. BULLSHIT!
If Liam, Andy and Gem are not committed to making the trek to North America that is fine, but don't halfheartedly schedule gigs. It's not like Europe where their gigs are plentiful and only a few hours apart and a cancellation is less of a big deal. They have to know that North American fans are going to come from all over the continent to see them, at a big cost, the band needs to sort out their interests ahead of time in order not to fuck their diehards over. If it is the child lawsuit-surely they must have known this when they scheduled the gig??? Not like that's new news!!
Sorry, I am just enraged right now. Just shows a lack of concern for their fans. Not like they have a ton of them to lose.
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Post by eva on Feb 27, 2014 10:03:51 GMT -5
I hate it when bands cancel shows for no reason or announce it at the last minute. It's so disrespectul towards the fans. It sucks for you gus who bought tickets just to see them. Hope you can get your money back
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Feb 27, 2014 10:41:34 GMT -5
Liam needs to take a long vacation, look in the mirror and then start new...
God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2014 11:20:30 GMT -5
I'm not surprised at all. It never made any sense for Beady Eye to be playing 40 minutes at Coachella with no further supporting dates. It was always bizarre and they completely ran out it time to book venues this close to April. Hopefully they tour the USA in the summer.
And for those thinking Coachella was canceled for an Oasis reunion....... I want whatever you are smoking.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Feb 27, 2014 11:47:55 GMT -5
Sheesh, I knew when they started out that BDI would fail without NG but their incompetence has far exceeded even my very low expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 11:52:31 GMT -5
Sadly , this is what plagued oasis , and it took them YEARS. TO OVERCOME IT. DBTT to be exact ....BEADY EYE will not overcome this in USA. Two lps that nobody knows here now another fucking mega screw up ......I'm not yrying to say I told you ,,..but I said months ago they should scrap the USA ....tour euro in summer OR. TAKE A FUCKING BREAK AND RETHINK THIS "
Edit And by scrap I mean .i posted this long ago during all the brawling here and silliness ...... But I said from get go. Bdi with its current lineup is OASIS light ...... The fans see gem Andy Liam up front , and dream OASIS. Put that together with decent but not spectacular lps and the fans just want to hear oasis .... ( most ). I said this so many times LIAM NEEDS to distance himself from the OASIS brand , gem and Andy can play on a track or two , but get a band that has no identity to OASIS , to me it beats the CONSTANT INEVEITABLE COMPARISINS. COMPARISONS THEY WILL LOSE EVERYTIME
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