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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 18:19:20 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like. I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened? I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 18:21:47 GMT -5
I didn't walk in. I was already here.
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Post by eva on Feb 25, 2014 18:30:30 GMT -5
Lennon2217 I will pay you 10 million dollars if you stop quoting and posting pics of Taylor Shit Shift *googling* Swift
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 18:32:28 GMT -5
Lennon2217 I will pay you 10 million dollars if you stop quoting and posting pics of Taylor Shit Shift *googling* Swift I believe in a free society and no censorship Eva. Respect me as I respect you. Taylor never hurt anyone.
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Post by eva on Feb 25, 2014 18:43:48 GMT -5
Lennon2217 I will pay you 10 million dollars if you stop quoting and posting pics of Taylor Shit Shift *googling* Swift I believe in a free society and no censorship Eva. Respect me as I respect you. Taylor never hurt anyone. #spam anyway... any official word yet about BE not playing Coachella? It's weird that they're not listed in the lineup on the festival site. I was looking forward to having a nice HD gig of this tour
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 25, 2014 18:58:42 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something and you all know it's off, or maybe this should be taken with a pinch of salt.. But I was listening back to my Cologne recording and during The World's Not Set In Stone Liam changes the lyrics to: "I've got to let you know, that Coachella is no show" Like I said, it's probably nothing because Liam was in a really bad mood, but maybe that's what all this stuff about his twitter update etc was about Can you post this recording?
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 19:10:37 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like. I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened? I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'. Not a widespread one, just major market tour. One would LIKE to think that they'd do it because they KNOW they have fans in the US/Canada. We're not all lucky enough to live in Europe or the UK.
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 25, 2014 19:15:04 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like. I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened? I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'. Not a widespread one, just major market tour. One would LIKE to think that they'd do it because they KNOW they have fans in the US/Canada. We're not all lucky enough to live in Europe or the UK. Yes I can't explain how livid I am if this is true, I'm from Canada and bought tickets to Coachella just to see them
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 19:25:43 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like. I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened? I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'. Not a widespread one, just major market tour. One would LIKE to think that they'd do it because they KNOW they have fans in the US/Canada. We're not all lucky enough to live in Europe or the UK. Not that many by the look of it. They may not tour the US for the same reason they won't tour Uganda. Although the Ugandan fan would probably be more kind about them.
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 19:32:30 GMT -5
Not a widespread one, just major market tour. One would LIKE to think that they'd do it because they KNOW they have fans in the US/Canada. We're not all lucky enough to live in Europe or the UK. Not that many by the look of it. They may not tour the US for the same reason they won't tour Uganda. Although the Ugandan fan would probably be more kind about them. I'm not getting into an argument about the amount of fans that reside w/in the US and/or Canada. They should know from previous tours (with and without Oasis) that the fans will come out and see them if they TOUR HERE. People will travel for shows, which is why I'm saying if or when they decide to tour, it should be a major market tour (LA, NY, Chicago, Toronto) places they KNOW they will have a large turnout. And fuck, they can play small clubs. Doesn't have to be a huge production.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 25, 2014 19:42:22 GMT -5
Not a widespread one, just major market tour. One would LIKE to think that they'd do it because they KNOW they have fans in the US/Canada. We're not all lucky enough to live in Europe or the UK. Not that many by the look of it. They may not tour the US for the same reason they won't tour Uganda. Although the Ugandan fan would probably be more kind about them. I'm sorry, but comparing an American fanbase to a Unganda fanbase is quite senseless, no matter how sarcastic. They're touring across Europe with capacities that aren't that much bigger than what they'd be playing in America. They played Cologne recently, 1,500. They played the Metro which is 1,100 in Chicago to a sell-out crowd. And it was by all accounts a brilliant gig where they were well received. Coachella, New York, LA, and Chicago would bring in a good profit for them and in America they'd be playing to people who truly want to go to one of their gigs. Because with 1,2-1,500 capacities you'd only be going if you wanted to. You can have an anti-American bias. Whatever. As if UK fans don't berate Beady Eye. But there is clearly a fanbase in America who supported BDI through three swing throughs. If Beady Eye don't play America that's on them, but I don't believe in blaming a fanbase that has clearly supported the band. Plain fact of the matter is you're trying to find any excuse for why Beady Eye would ignore an entire country's fan and it logically it doesn't play well.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Feb 25, 2014 19:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 19:44:32 GMT -5
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 25, 2014 19:45:44 GMT -5
How crazy would it be if Beady Eye cancelled for Oasis to reunite at Coachella, based on the announcement tomorrow?
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 19:46:50 GMT -5
Not that many by the look of it. They may not tour the US for the same reason they won't tour Uganda. Although the Ugandan fan would probably be more kind about them. I'm sorry, but comparing an American fanbase to a Unganda fanbase is quite senseless, no matter how sarcastic. They're touring across Europe with capacities that aren't that much bigger than what they'd be playing in America. They played Cologne recently, 1,500. They played the Metro which is 1,100 in Chicago to a sell-out crowd. And it was by all accounts a brilliant gig where they were well received. Coachella, New York, LA, and Chicago would bring in a good profit for them and in America they'd be playing to people who truly want to go to one of their gigs. Because with 1,2-1,500 capacities you'd only be going if you wanted to. You can have an anti-American bias. Whatever. As if UK fans don't berate Beady Eye. But there is clearly a fanbase in America who supported BDI through three swing throughs. If Beady Eye don't play America that's on them, but I don't believe in blaming a fanbase that has clearly supported the band. Plain fact of the matter is you're trying to find any excuse for why Beady Eye would ignore an entire country's fan and it logically it doesn't play well. And just to follow up your post, a comment from the other Beady Eye 2014 Tour: I never said special treatment. Simply that there are exceptions. And just because nothing is announced doesn't mean venues are "all booked up". Stranger things have happened in the span of 8 weeks. Just wanted to update everyone on what i had heard/hadn't heard. Also, I did forget Chicago in the original post. Chicago has always been figured in. The last show at the Metro was fantastic. It's one that the band have not forgotten about either from what I've been told.
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 19:47:53 GMT -5
How crazy would it be if Beady Eye cancelled for Oasis to reunite at Coachella, based on the announcement tomorrow? It'd be awesome as hell, but highly unlikely the way Noel has talked about all the reunion rumors as of late.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 19:53:11 GMT -5
Not that many by the look of it. They may not tour the US for the same reason they won't tour Uganda. Although the Ugandan fan would probably be more kind about them. I'm not getting into an argument about the amount of fans that reside w/in the US and/or Canada. They should know from previous tours (with and without Oasis) that the fans will come out and see them if they TOUR HERE. People will travel for shows, which is why I'm saying if or when they decide to tour, it should be a major market tour (LA, NY, Chicago, Toronto) places they KNOW they will have a large turnout. And fuck, they can play small clubs. Doesn't have to be a huge production. Although you might have expected them to announce them by now there is still nothing to say there won't be a few North American dates added. Yeah there are fans out there but as people here kept saying the last gigs weren't all particularly well attended. So if they decided not to it wouldn't be a huge surprise. To the other person, I'm not anti-American in any way. Not only do I take an interest in your history but every American I have met so far (and there has been many)has been incredibly affable.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 25, 2014 20:01:06 GMT -5
I'm not getting into an argument about the amount of fans that reside w/in the US and/or Canada. They should know from previous tours (with and without Oasis) that the fans will come out and see them if they TOUR HERE. People will travel for shows, which is why I'm saying if or when they decide to tour, it should be a major market tour (LA, NY, Chicago, Toronto) places they KNOW they will have a large turnout. And fuck, they can play small clubs. Doesn't have to be a huge production. Although you might have expected them to announce them by now there is still nothing to say there won't be a few North American dates added. Y eah there are fans out there but as people here kept saying the last gigs weren't all particularly well attended. So if they decided not to it wouldn't be a huge surprise. To the other person, I'm not anti-American in any way. Not only do I take an interest in your history but every American I have met so far (and there has been many)has been incredibly affable. Because they over toured it. They had three run throughs. And on the last they tried to play to capacities that were way above what they were selling before, like in New York. Beady Eye didn't sell out that run through because of poor booking by Beady Eye. And someone like Lennon2217 can attest to that. They went above their market. That wasn't the fans fault. At the end of the DGGS tour they over toured everywhere. They had multiple gigs across the world during the DGSS tour that weren't close to selling out. They weren't selling out UK shows at the end of the DGSS tour. They're not going to stop playing shows in the UK are they? But let's focus on the American shows that didn't sell out in the last run through after two previous when clearly there were plenty of places that didn't.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 20:15:21 GMT -5
Although you might have expected them to announce them by now there is still nothing to say there won't be a few North American dates added. Y eah there are fans out there but as people here kept saying the last gigs weren't all particularly well attended. So if they decided not to it wouldn't be a huge surprise. To the other person, I'm not anti-American in any way. Not only do I take an interest in your history but every American I have met so far (and there has been many)has been incredibly affable. Because they over toured it. They had three run throughs. And on the last they tried to play to capacities that were way above what they were selling before, like in New York. Beady Eye didn't sell out that run through because of poor booking by Beady Eye. And someone like Lennon2217 can attest to that. They went above their market. That wasn't the fans fault. At the end of the DGGS tour they over toured everywhere. They had multiple gigs across the world during the DGSS tour that weren't close to selling out. They weren't selling out UK shows at the end of the DGSS tour. They're not going to stop playing shows in the UK are they? But let's focus on the American shows that didn't sell out in the last run through after two previous when clearly there were plenty of places that didn't. Is 14 or so small gigs over touring? Or a lack of interest considering some of those weren't well attended? That's all I could find anyway. I'm not saying they perhaps didn't do to much but maybe it reaches a point where it isn't worth it. As I said earlier there's nothing to say they won't be announced still it just wouldn't be that shocking if they didn't. Don't act like I'm blaming the American people for not going to see Beady Eye haha.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 20:16:23 GMT -5
The problem with Beady Eye fans is there is never enough of them. That last USA tour in December of 2011 was a joke. Why did they feel they needed to upgrade venue sizes on the 3rd trip around? Terminal 5 was half filled and looked awful visually. They should have stuck to selling out Webster Hall or Irving Plaza which hold roughly 1,500-2,000. I remember reading they had to move a venue in San Fran to a smaller facility because of lack of sales.
They can (should) tour the US but they gotta be smart about it. Finding a headliner or smaller gigs is their best bet. Get the Black Keys on the phone, tell'em to book BDI.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 25, 2014 20:24:02 GMT -5
Would love them to come here, but as I recall when they toured here in America last time, everyone was complaining that it was barely half capacity and the ones that did show up didn't have any energy. So if Beady Eye does skip out on touring here, I wouldn't blame them.
I do hope they still attend Coachella though. They really need that.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 20:27:16 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like. I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened? I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'. I never left, my friend. Simply haven't had a lot of time to post in the last 5-6 months. A new baby will do that to you. Sill lurked... I can't fathom why you'd take offence at anything I said. Beady Eye's in a tough spot right now. And I hardly dislike Beady Eye. It would be sad if they stopped making music. I'd pay to see them in a second if they came to Toronto, as I did in 2011. Just because I think they have limitations doesn't mean I don't actively enjoy them. I didn't take offence. Was just pointing out you hadn't been here lately but bothered to post that. I don't really see the problem with that.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 20:32:02 GMT -5
Congratulations by the way!
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 20:33:04 GMT -5
Would love them to come here, but as I recall when they toured here in America last time, everyone was complaining that it was barely half capacity and the ones that did show up didn't have any energy. So if Beady Eye does skip out on touring here, I wouldn't blame them. I do hope they still attend Coachella though. They really need that. I think if they scale down, venue-wise, for this tour, they'd do a lot better. They were definitely over ambitious with the DGSS tour. Just learn from past mistakes and build on 'em. A few shows (other than Coachella if they do still plan on going ahead with it) at smaller venues.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 25, 2014 20:36:00 GMT -5
Would love them to come here, but as I recall when they toured here in America last time, everyone was complaining that it was barely half capacity and the ones that did show up didn't have any energy. So if Beady Eye does skip out on touring here, I wouldn't blame them. I do hope they still attend Coachella though. They really need that. I think if they scale down, venue-wise, for this tour, they'd do a lot better. They were definitely over ambitious with the DGSS tour. Just learn from past mistakes and build on 'em. A few shows (other than Coachella if they do still plan on going ahead with it) at smaller venues. I certainly hope they end up doing that. But they're cutting it a bit close.
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