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Post by welshylad on Feb 25, 2014 12:47:38 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something and you all know it's off, or maybe this should be taken with a pinch of salt..
But I was listening back to my Cologne recording and during The World's Not Set In Stone Liam changes the lyrics to: "I've got to let you know, that Coachella is no show"
Like I said, it's probably nothing because Liam was in a really bad mood, but maybe that's what all this stuff about his twitter update etc was about
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Post by nadiascrat on Feb 25, 2014 13:05:35 GMT -5
It could be true : their name is still on the poster on the homepage, but I can't find them in the list of all the bands (week1/week2).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 13:22:14 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me. I see no point in traveling to Coachella and not playing any other gigs in USA at that time.
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Post by Cast on Feb 25, 2014 13:27:20 GMT -5
For a group of dudes who have been in bands and who have been part of music industry for 20+ years it amazes me how horrible Beady Eye are at organizing their stuff.
Gem's accident was a bump in the road that they couldn't do anything about, but their management is horrible. Its a damn shame.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 13:32:14 GMT -5
For a group of dudes who have been in bands and who have been part of music industry for 20+ years it amazes me how horrible Beady Eye are at organizing their stuff. Gem's accident was a bump in the road that they couldn't do anything about, but their management is horrible. Its a damn shame. Just awful managing since the beginning. I would also imagine it is extremely difficult to navigate Beady Eye with Liam thinking he can still get Oasis style treatment but management curbing his expectations. That's gotta fuck with him. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 25, 2014 13:59:16 GMT -5
Noel knows how to do things himself,and then he's got a good management,BDI on the other hand...
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Post by Frodis on Feb 25, 2014 14:04:24 GMT -5
Ouch. Pull out of Coachella, and ya know, maybe do a small US tour instead... Maybe?   Or, do one gig and just let your piss poor management have you skip over the rest of the US.  |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 14:17:04 GMT -5
I hope this isn't true - I think Coachella would be a good booking for them, just like Big Day Out last month.
And I reckon Big Day Out was a success.... they barely played anything other than BDO itself and it didn't do them any harm. They could do that with Coachella, a couple of shows after it. It would be fine.
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Post by peardrop on Feb 25, 2014 14:22:53 GMT -5
He turned his mic away from the crowd in Cologne for Shine A Light. Who's he pissed off at?
Reminded me of when he did the same thing during Songbird at Manchester 2005.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 14:45:42 GMT -5
I hope this isn't true - I think Coachella would be a good booking for them, just like Big Day Out last month. And I reckon Big Day Out was a success.... they barely played anything other than BDO itself and it didn't do them any harm. They could do that with Coachella, a couple of shows after it. It would be fine. Well that is the catch isn't it. It is now really really really late into the game to start booking some USA tour dates around Coachella when other bands playing Coachella have probably already gone ahead and done that....................months ago. Simple truth is economically it probably makes no sense for Beady Eye to tour America. Can't imagine the albums or tickets sales will sustain the effort sadly. |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 14:58:04 GMT -5
Well that is the catch isn't it. It is now really really really late into the game to start booking some USA tour dates around Coachella when other bands playing Coachella have probably already gone ahead and done that....................months ago. Simple truth is economically it probably makes no sense for Beady Eye to tour America. Can't imagine the albums or tickets sales will sustain the effort sadly. The even simpler truth is that it probably doesn't even matter whether they play or not. The decision to play or not at this stage isn't going to make or break Beady Eye or anyone involved with them. |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 15:31:19 GMT -5
Barring some miracle, Beady Eye is only going to get less and less popular. The only question is how steep the drop is. Really, the quality of their music is beside the point now. People don't have an open mind. Some were willing to give them a look when DGSS came out. Not anymore. We're down to the hardest of the hardcore. Fact is, Liam got his act together too late. Listening to him live during the last 5 years of Oasis was embarrassing. He's clearly trying harder now, sounds better, has some worthy songs, but nobody's listening. All too true I'm afraid. It's certainly not a nice position for a fan to be in when we can clearly see the band stuck in this state. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 25, 2014 15:44:30 GMT -5
This saddens me. I wonder if they are making a profit at all? Or enough of one to keep going in the future. Poor album sales, gigs aren't packed any longer. And they seem to have scrubbed the U.S entirely now...Something tells me BE was the last we'll see of Beady Eye.
Maybe the management is so horrible because the group just can't afford better managers?
All of this goes completely above my head, I cannot fathom why Beady Eye are doing so poorly right now. I was so sure that if the songs improved after DGSS that so would the sales, gigs and fanbase.
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 15:50:59 GMT -5
This saddens me. I wonder if they are making a profit at all? Or enough of one to keep going in the future. Poor album sales, gigs aren't packed any longer. And they seem to have scrubbed the U.S entirely now...Something tells me BE was the last we'll see of Beady Eye. Maybe the management is so horrible because the group just can't afford better managers? All of this goes completely above my head, I cannot fathom why Beady Eye are doing so poorly right now. I was so sure that if the songs improved after DGSS that so would the sales, gigs and fanbase. It actually seems odd to remember the positive hype on the run-up to BE. I really do miss those days, the shift into Summer matched perfectly the excitement for BE and it was all nice. If they planned a third album, I can't imagine that news being received as well as it did with BE. All I can imagine is headlines like, "Are they taking the piss?" "They're joking, right?" or "They're still here, you know" - and it's not a nice thing to feel. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 25, 2014 16:01:13 GMT -5
This saddens me. I wonder if they are making a profit at all? Or enough of one to keep going in the future. Poor album sales, gigs aren't packed any longer. And they seem to have scrubbed the U.S entirely now...Something tells me BE was the last we'll see of Beady Eye. Maybe the management is so horrible because the group just can't afford better managers? All of this goes completely above my head, I cannot fathom why Beady Eye are doing so poorly right now. I was so sure that if the songs improved after DGSS that so would the sales, gigs and fanbase. It actually seems odd to remember the positive hype on the run-up to BE. I really do miss those days, the shift into Summer matched perfectly the excitement for BE and it was all nice. If they planned a third album, I can't imagine that news being received as well as it did with BE. All I can imagine is headlines like, "Are they taking the piss?" "They're joking, right?" or "They're still here, you know" - and it's not a nice thing to feel. Have to agree. And I really hate that I do. They just aren't getting the recognition that they deserve. Or maybe they do suck and I am just too biased of a fanboy to see it. I think we all agree that the music they are creating just isn't that popular right now so that obviously doesn't help them. Beady Eye needs to write a hit. Just one single hit. And that would bring the attention back that they need. And the other albums would be looked at more too(in theory). If they could write a single that charts in the top 10, a lot of Oasis fans would return and so would others to see what they missed. Also, they need not take another 2 year break, it will only allow more people to forget they exist. |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 16:12:51 GMT -5
Have to agree. And I really hate that I do. They just aren't getting the recognition that they deserve. Or maybe they do suck and I am just too biased of a fanboy to see it. I think we all agree that the music they are creating just isn't that popular right now so that obviously doesn't help them. Beady Eye needs to write a hit. Just one single hit. And that would bring the attention back that they need. And the other albums would be looked at more too(in theory). If they could write a single that charts in the top 10, a lot of Oasis fans would return and so would others to see what they missed. Also, they need not take another 2 year break, it will only allow more people to forget they exist. They'd kill now for a hit even close to The Roller. Where did that get, I think 34 in the UK charts? I can't see anything getting anywhere near that. What was the highest charting single from BE, if anyone knows this? You make a good point about not taking so much of a break, but like so many things that are suggested here, rapid and frequent releases just isn't the done thing - especially with this management. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 16:16:47 GMT -5
Have to agree. And I really hate that I do. They just aren't getting the recognition that they deserve. Or maybe they do suck and I am just too biased of a fanboy to see it. I think we all agree that the music they are creating just isn't that popular right now so that obviously doesn't help them. Beady Eye needs to write a hit. Just one single hit. And that would bring the attention back that they need. And the other albums would be looked at more too(in theory). If they could write a single that charts in the top 10, a lot of Oasis fans would return and so would others to see what they missed. Also, they need not take another 2 year break, it will only allow more people to forget they exist. They'd kill now for a hit even close to The Roller. Where did that get, I think 34 in the UK charts? I can't see anything getting anywhere near that. What was the highest charting single from BE, if anyone knows this? You make a good point about not taking so much of a break, but like so many things that are suggested here, rapid and frequent releases just isn't the done thing - especially with this management. I don't think Beady Eye really took that much of a break. DGSS came out at the very end of February 2011. They toured the entire year and a little into the next. Then they took a little rest, started on album #2 which came out June of 2013. That pretty fast for a band these days. Compared to latter day Oasis, BDI are working at breakneck speed.  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 25, 2014 16:18:09 GMT -5
I think it was The Roller actually,but I'm pretty sure it was in the top 30,I don't know
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 25, 2014 16:21:33 GMT -5
Yeah it was The Roller which peaked at #31
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Post by stevemeister on Feb 25, 2014 16:49:03 GMT -5
What they really need is to learn or relearn how to write songs with a catchy hook, add something called a sing a long chorus, a Pop-Rock Tune with a sprinkle of modern.
BDI IS F!#!#ED
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 16:49:11 GMT -5
It was mentioned earlier that Beady Eye are only going to get less and less popular. One thing I would say is that I'm glad Oasis didn't stick it out or reunite, because then it would be a case of Oasis only getting less and less popular. And I'm sure people will agree that we'd rather see Beady Eye becoming a laughing stock than Oasis - it's still not a choice I'd want to have to make. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2014 16:54:21 GMT -5
It was mentioned earlier that Beady Eye are only going to get less and less popular. One thing I would say is that I'm glad Oasis didn't stick it out or reunite, because then it would be a case of Oasis only getting less and less popular. And I'm sure people will agree that we'd rather see Beady Eye becoming a laughing stock than Oasis - it's still not a choice I'd want to have to make. Sometimes I feel Beady Eye are merely shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.  |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 25, 2014 16:59:01 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel Beady Eye are merely shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. With HFB2 being the iceberg?  |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 25, 2014 17:06:56 GMT -5
He turned his mic away from the crowd in Cologne for Shine A Light. Who's he pissed off at? Reminded me of when he did the same thing during Songbird at Manchester 2005. Apparently, he made multiple remarks during the entire gig, he was annoyed by the motionless "squares" in the back. It's hard for a non-mancunian, leave alone a non-native-english-speaker to understand his mumbling, all I could clearly make out was one "fuck Oasis" in response to some of the obvious Oasis-chants. He got almost hit by a beer can too couple of times, which is still nothing unusual I guess, still he seemed pretty unnerved. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 25, 2014 18:13:49 GMT -5
Its no surprise to see some of these individuals posting in this thread. Even losingmyhead came back to put the boot in on a band he doesn't like.
I'm interested to hear why they aren't playing Coachella tbh. If they had be confirmed then I assume something out of the ordinary has happened?
I also don't know why they'd do a widespread small tour of the US. Reading the posts on here would be enough to make you think 'fuck that'.
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