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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 17, 2015 6:13:57 GMT -5
I still listen to this album quite a lot. Or at least parts of it. Flick of the Finger, Soul Love, Second Bite of the Apple, IZ Rite, Back after the Break and Off at the Next Exit are legitimately great songs, and I'll keep returning to those. The only songs I dislike on the album are Face the Crowd and Soon Come Tomorrow Some of the material I spin the most from this album cycle are the bonus songs. Back After The Break Off At The Next Exit Girls In Uniform Evil Eye I love that run and grouping of songs. I wish it was an EP release instead of Japanese bonus tracks or whatever the hell it was. These songs just have a Different feels compared to DGSS and BE.
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Post by NYR on Feb 17, 2015 13:38:23 GMT -5
I barely listen to this album. It's well produced, but no amount of polish can make a turd, well, not a turd.
It's filled with meddling songs with terrible lyrics that go nowhere. You need good songs to make a good album. "Flick of the Finger" was the only song I truly enjoyed. "Shine a Light" was good, but not great. The other songs, though? Oy.
I respect the hell out of them for trying to get outside the box, but it turned out they were a one-trick pony. It's a damned shame because I truly believe they could have done better.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Feb 18, 2015 10:10:30 GMT -5
Much better than DGSS, but its still a 2/5 album max. Few good songs, Noel was spot on when he said Beady Eye just don't have a truly great song that announced them to everyone, which wont come as much surprise, Liam, Gem & Andy just aren't great songwriters.
I don't listen to the album much now at all, but I would go (out of 10); Flick 5 Soul Love 4 Face The Crowd 1 Second Bite 4 Soon Come Tomorrow 3 Iz Rite 1 Im Just Saying 2 Don't Brother Me 1 Shine A Light 4 Ballroom 3 Start Anew 3 Dreaming 1 World Set in Stone 3 Back After 5 Off Next Exit 6
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Post by saruzzu on Feb 18, 2015 16:56:20 GMT -5
after 1,5 years
Flick 7 Soul Love 6 Face The Crowd 4 Second Bite 4 Soon Come Tomorrow 7 Iz Rite 5 Im Just Saying 5.5 Don't Brother Me 3 Shine A Light 4 Ballroom 6 Start Anew 6 Dreaming 6 World Set in Stone 5 Back After 6.5 Off Next Exit 6.5 Girls 6 Evil 7
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Post by tonethestone1 on Feb 19, 2015 5:43:33 GMT -5
Cant believe 55 people voted it 9-10, and even most of the votes for 7-8, madness.
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Post by icebreath on Feb 19, 2015 5:47:51 GMT -5
Cant believe 55 people voted it 9-10, and even most of the votes for 7-8, madness. Sames goes for Chasing Yesterday. It's a fan forum, get used to it.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Feb 19, 2015 6:06:32 GMT -5
Cant believe 55 people voted it 9-10, and even most of the votes for 7-8, madness. Sames goes for Chasing Yesterday. It's a fan forum, get used to it. Difference being that Chasing Yesterday is actually a good album which will probably be received well generally, and already is. BE is pure liam fans overrating it, which is expected on a Beady Eye forum, but its still madness.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 19, 2015 14:46:09 GMT -5
Sames goes for Chasing Yesterday. It's a fan forum, get used to it. Difference being that Chasing Yesterday is actually a good album which will probably be received well generally, and already is. BE is pure liam fans overrating it, which is expected on a Beady Eye forum, but its still madness. BE is a solid album for me. And I'm usually pretty honest about these things. If it's bad or generic, I have no issue with throwing Liam, Noel or their work under the magnifying glass and ripping them to shreds. BE is vastly improved. They ditched the 60's sound and went for a fresh, modern approach. It worked. It was just too late. This should have been their debut. I voted 8. The only song I dislike is Second Bite Of The Apple. But mostly, it has songs I'd consider good to great, this includes the bonus tracks.
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Post by Plantpot on Feb 19, 2015 16:27:11 GMT -5
after 1,5 years Flick 7 Soul Love 6 Face The Crowd 4 Second Bite 4 Soon Come Tomorrow 7 Iz Rite 5 Im Just Saying 5.5 Don't Brother Me 3 Shine A Light 4 Ballroom 6 Start Anew 6 Dreaming 6 World Set in Stone 5 Back After 6.5 Off Next Exit 6.5 Girls 6 Evil 7 Spot on-- except i'd switch the scores for Soul Love and Soon Come Tomorrow, and I think Face the Crowd merits a 6 (I like that chune for some reason). I initially voted this album as "good"-- which qualifies as a 6/10 per this thread's parameters. As such, I would say that my initial ranking has remained consistent up to this point. Cheers.
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Post by shinealight on Feb 20, 2015 13:39:24 GMT -5
I still like it, nothing Liam should be ashamed of.
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Post by Stemot on Feb 24, 2015 11:56:27 GMT -5
Wow, Some people here still hating on people liking BE. For me it's still far above first Noels first solo effort in both energy and songs.
Flick 8 Soul Love 5 Face The Crowd 7 Second Bite 8 Soon Come Tomorrow 9 Iz Rite 7 Im Just Saying 8 Don't Brother Me 2 Shine A Light 7 Ballroom 2 Start Anew 7 Dreaming 0 (Don't even consider this a song) World Set in Stone 6 Back After 6 Off Next Exit 9 Girls 5 Evil 7
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 20, 2015 6:37:58 GMT -5
I was shuffling Beady Eye last night and for the first time since the split I think I actually miss them. Fair enough the albums as a whole weren't amazing, but at least half the songs were good or better. I put together a 16 track 'best of' and they really were very good at times.
More than anything though I miss the guarantee that more music from LG is on the horizon. Pull your finger out Liam!
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 20, 2015 20:34:49 GMT -5
Sames goes for Chasing Yesterday. It's a fan forum, get used to it. Difference being that Chasing Yesterday is actually a good album which will probably be received well generally, and already is. BE is pure liam fans overrating it, which is expected on a Beady Eye forum, but its still madness. If it is recieved well it has to be great!!!! Shut up with arguments like this one. Pure Liam fans overrating it? Stop playing Team Noel or Team liam. If you can not enjoy it its okay but why is it madness if people like songs like Flick of the Finger?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 20:41:10 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is that many people (myself included) enjoy listening to Beady Eye as well as NGHFB. Shock horror! Music is all about personal taste and if people rate Beady Eye's albums well then why is that suddenly a problem when Noel has a new album out?
Constantly bashing Beady Eye on an Oasis forum is absolutely ridiculous, petty and a waste of time.
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Post by jordan71421 on Mar 20, 2015 20:56:33 GMT -5
A lot of BE is great, mostly including the stuff that wasn't on the actual album. Off At the Next Exit, Evil Eye, and Girls In Uniform all have a really cool atmosphere to them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 21:04:45 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 20, 2015 22:24:44 GMT -5
A lot of BE is great, mostly including the stuff that wasn't on the actual album. Off At the Next Exit, Evil Eye, and Girls In Uniform all have a really cool atmosphere to them Some of my favorite Beady Eye songs ever were the ones not even on the album! Mostly the Japanese bonus tracks. Off At The Next Exit Back After The Break Girls In Uniform Evil Eye Awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 22:42:54 GMT -5
And like others have said, Evil Eye is absolutely fantastic. Not the most original song by any stretch, but a perfect swan song for the band and, if Liam never does anything else again, a fitting end to his music career.
I gotta let you know, love is all we need.
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 21, 2015 4:16:01 GMT -5
And like others have said, Evil Eye is absolutely fantastic. Not the most original song by any stretch, but a perfect swan song for the band and, if Liam never does anything else again, a fitting end to his music career. I gotta let you know, love is all we need. Don't get the deal with Evil Eye. Apart from the beginning, which was good enough for PayPal to steal, the rest of the song sounds like every other Liam song - a cheap 60s rip off.
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 21, 2015 4:35:42 GMT -5
It's not Noel vs Liam. The presence of Noel didn't make Beady Eye rubbish. They were rubbish anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 9:40:38 GMT -5
I think it's too long for what they actually had and I also think Dave Sitek was there for the paycheque and made plinky-plonky noises and dragged out songs instead of doing what he could have. It remains a good album and some of the stuff that didn't make it is really great. Off At the Next Exit is the most emotionally affecting Oasis-related song since Wonderwall and stands up to anything Noel has done post-Oasis imo.
Like I say, it's a good album. There's always been a tendency to review Oasis and offshoots song by song rather than the overall view of an album. Few songs and albums stand up to that.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 21, 2015 9:44:55 GMT -5
I think it's too long for what they actually had and I also think Dave Sitek was there for the paycheque and made plinky-plonky noises and dragged out songs instead of doing what he could have. It remains a good album and some of the stuff that didn't make it is really great. Off At the Next Exit is the most emotionally affecting Oasis-related song since Wonderwall and stands up to anything Noel has done post-Oasis imo. Like I say, it's a good album. There's always been a tendency to review Oasis and offshoots song by song rather than the overall view of an album. Few songs and albums stand up to that. Ouch. Low blow on Dave Sitek.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 21, 2015 9:59:26 GMT -5
Imagine if Sardy would have produced this.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 23, 2015 3:44:00 GMT -5
Imagine if Sardy would have produced this. It could also be a good album with Sardy! The songs are good naked and the Abbey Road acoustic session proves that. Sardy's "traditional" touch could make it sound closer to that acoustic sesion.ok we would miss the tricks n thrills of Sitek, but still the result would be more than ok... we hail D.Sitek all the time but imo some parts of his production was very good but his whole work was not brilliant.He only spent about 10 days to produce the album (correct me if i m wrong). I dont believe its only his fault, but i suppose a producer should spent more time with a band to work in ideas, tracklist, changes and all that shit around the release of an album. i mean in 10 fuckin days he didnt have the time even to hear the songs!!!more time with the band could give us definitely a better result.and i cant still dont inderstand the fiasco not to put the bonus tracks in the proper version of the lp.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Mar 24, 2015 2:15:45 GMT -5
It bothered me that Sitek spoke of catering to the artist and being a buffer between the artist and the "suits". He would have been doing the lads a favor if he'd said, "Mates, you need to go back to the pub and write some choruses." IMHO, the producer's job is to bring the BEST out of an artist and be honest with them--not to stroke their egos and teach them how to burn incense. The album would have been a commercial success if Mutt Lange had produced it, and it would have been a critical success if Rick Rubin had produced it.
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