I generally don't pay attention to lyrics, and don't care too much for them. I like if a song has great lyrics I can relate to, but it has to have a nice sound above all, or I won't be listening to it frequently.

You won't find a bigger Dylan fan than me that doesn't mean I either expect or actually want the same quality of lyrics from other artists/bands.

I believe lyrics are important, but they're not the only thing. And when someone brought up the fact that SBOTA's lyrics may have some biblical resemblance to them, especially Adam and Eve, I liked the song even more than before. I honestly don't see why people are complaining about Beady Eye's lyrics; you know what you're getting into, these are former members of the band Oasis, who produced songs like I Can See a Liar, Digsy's Dinner, etc.

I also believe we are by far the whiniest, most critical fan base of any band

And I attach myself to that statement as well, I'm no better than anybody else. But I don't see any bitching like what we do on here on the Coldplay forum (I only say stuff like that to piss people off on here)

Please no Coldplay comparasin

In the new class worst day that can't be true

What Beady Eye havent got, Noel has . . . . . . . and that's the ability to come up with melodies!

Some of Noels lyrics are aweful when you sit down and read them, but his melodies are the hook.

Take Me Away and Some Might Say are prime examples.

haha thanks man, I've always appreciated you sticking up for Beady Eye when people tend to get down on them sometimes

Likewise actually I knew that I could rely on you and a few others to keep sensible and positive about Second Bite when it came out when all the Noel-fanboys and over-thinkers were having a field day laying into it

I remember watching an interview with Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden, and he said he didn't really care about the lyrics to a song, more about the melody.  I think lyrics are often important, but not any more important than other essential parts of a song, like the melody, instruments, chorus, hook, etc.  When I hear a song, the first thing that catches my ear is the melody. The lyrics usually come later.  When the lyrics are meaningful, it makes me enjoy the song even more.

And yeah, quite a few Oasis songs are nonsensical or very simple (as Noel and Liam have also said) if we just read the lyrics straight off the page.  It doesn't make them any less good, because it's the entire tune that counts.  

I do care for the lyrics. If melody is the brain for a song, lyrics must be the heart for a song.

Do I expect everyone to write lyrics like Dylan? No, he's a genius.

It's not even the idea of expecting Beady Eye to all of a sudden write amazing lyrics. I don't think anyone is asking them to do that. However, it's not unreasonable to expect something decent. Lyrics are purely effort based. Because it's actually a craft. The more time you put into editing lyrics, the better they will come out. I know plenty of musicians who can't write lyrics, they seriously can't. Yet they put hours of time and effort into doing them and re-doing them and asking themselves for every single line: "Is this truly the best I can do?". And if they believe it is, they move on. If not, they keep going.

So when I see lyrics like SBOTA, I just assume someone didn't put the time in to edit. Lyrics don't have to be complicated, they can be very simple. They don't even have to make sense. But there has to be some effort. Dylan's basically a natural lyrical genius, yet when he wrote the lyrics to Like A Rolling Stone he wrote over seven pages of lyrics until he felt he had enough to pick out the best lines to choose from. That's a ton of effort......from a genius.

What's even more frustrating is that the lyrics to FOTF aren't half bad, they're actually fairly good. I'm Outta Time, Turn Up the Sun, The World Outside My Room, Four Letter Word all have good lyrics. So they're capable of writing better. Yet I see something like SBOTA and wonder how much time did they really put into that? Especially considering there are three songwriters among them. Isn't Beady Eye supposed to be more collaborative based. Yet no one over two years thought to take a few more hours editing some lyrics?

In the end, for better or for worse, lyrics are part of the song. And I don't think I've ever seen a case where bettering lyrics has made a song worse.

I really don't think asking for better lyrics is in anyways unfair asking for too much.

That's just how I feel. The rest is just taste in the end.