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Post by matt on Oct 1, 2022 12:56:03 GMT -5
Liam might 'talk shit' but he doesn't spout batshit conspiracy theorist nonsense. You can take the worst things Liam says with a pinch of salt, but you have to be next level dangerously stupid to believe the diarrhoea that spews from Ian Brown's mouth. The guy is a fud. End of. The guy's gone doolally, and its time for him to crawl into some musicians retirement home and be forgotten about for good. genuinely, could you tell me what you mean? Maybe I've missed some stuff he's said or written that you've read or heard that might change my opinion of the man? Unlike many here, I am pragmatic enough to actually listen and change my mind, so if you get the time it would be great to know what particular diarrhoea you are talking about?
You know what, all that covid bollocks. You call it pragmatic to change your mind, I call it stupidity. The man's a c*nt and to vent misinformation while I know folk personally who died from it, well it just sums up the state of our world and the insecurity and selfishness of those who vouch for that shite. But whatever, I don't know why I'm getting angry, the self pity should be foisted on the likes of yourself in heeding that crap and the insecurities that lead you to be vulnerable to it.
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Post by matt on Oct 1, 2022 13:00:29 GMT -5
P.S. The Stone Roses debut was always overrated.
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 1, 2022 13:29:38 GMT -5
It is not that I don't agree with almost everything you are saying but you are full of anger, so relax. I open this thread and thread about Kasabian and you are on both threads calling Ian and Tom vaginas. I mean, they are vaginas but they did nothing today, no need to read it about every day. What I want to say, there are better days to spend Saturday night 😉
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2022 13:42:42 GMT -5
genuinely, could you tell me what you mean? Maybe I've missed some stuff he's said or written that you've read or heard that might change my opinion of the man? Unlike many here, I am pragmatic enough to actually listen and change my mind, so if you get the time it would be great to know what particular diarrhoea you are talking about?
You know what, all that covid bollocks. You call it pragmatic to change your mind, I call it stupidity. The man's a c*nt and to vent misinformation while I know folk personally who died from it, well it just sums up the state of our world and the insecurity and selfishness of those who vouch for that shite. But whatever, I don't know why I'm getting angry, the self pity should be foisted on the likes of yourself in heeding that crap and the insecurities that lead you to be vulnerable to it. why do you make assumptions about 'the likes of myself'? I've expressed no views on 'all that covid bollcks'. I simply asked what Brown had done that you disagreed with.
As it happens, thankfully I don't know anyone who died from covid and am very thankful for that.
I do however know one person through work who died with the AZ v explicitly on her death cert as cause of death. Our family are also currently awaiting a follow up to an inconclusive autopsy on my sister in laws 42 years old partner who died a few weeks ago unexpectedly overnight from a heart issue, having previously been in perfect health.
Otherwise, you can take your arrogant insulting attitude to me in the post above and shove it up your arse.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 1, 2022 13:57:41 GMT -5
#RESEARCHANDDESTROY
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Post by funhouse on Oct 1, 2022 18:57:32 GMT -5
P.S. The Stone Roses debut was always overrated. You had a winning streak, and then... With that said, they should have gotten Fools Gold into that tracklist instead of that fucking rewinded crap.
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Post by funhouse on Oct 1, 2022 19:02:59 GMT -5
If only the guy singing in The Vaccines would have caused their first headline in years by coming out as an Ian Brown level anti-vaxxer. What a missed opportunity.
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Post by glider on Oct 1, 2022 20:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by ibex1251 on Oct 2, 2022 3:52:44 GMT -5
NO LOCKDOWN NO TESTS NO TRACKS NO MASKS NO VAX NO TUNES NO BAND His opinion... agree or disagree as you wish. Hate everyone you disagree with in life??
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 2, 2022 4:50:49 GMT -5
NO LOCKDOWN NO TESTS NO TRACKS NO MASKS NO VAX NO TUNES NO BAND His opinion... agree or disagree as you wish. Hate everyone you disagree with in life?? LAMESTREAM MEDIA
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Post by funhouse on Oct 2, 2022 5:09:52 GMT -5
NO LOCKDOWN NO TESTS NO TRACKS NO MASKS NO VAX NO TUNES NO BAND Hate everyone you disagree with in life?? Don't you think that it's perhaps a bit different between someone liking an album or movie that you personally think is trash, and someone spreading misinformation that causes danger and death to others?
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Post by ibex1251 on Oct 2, 2022 5:34:10 GMT -5
Hate everyone you disagree with in life?? Don't you think that it's perhaps a bit different between someone liking an album or movie that you personally think is trash, and someone spreading misinformation that causes danger and death to others? I'm not here to argue or fall out about that covid thing.. You want vaccines and lockdowns, you go for it. You want no vaccines and no lockdowns, you go for it too. Each to their own.. Peace.. Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things.
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Post by funhouse on Oct 2, 2022 9:03:06 GMT -5
Don't you think that it's perhaps a bit different between someone liking an album or movie that you personally think is trash, and someone spreading misinformation that causes danger and death to others? Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things. Well obviously you would say that. You might even be Ian Brown's Twitter ghostwriter?
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Post by matt on Oct 2, 2022 9:04:38 GMT -5
Don't you think that it's perhaps a bit different between someone liking an album or movie that you personally think is trash, and someone spreading misinformation that causes danger and death to others? I'm not here to argue or fall out about that covid thing.. You want vaccines and lockdowns, you go for it. You want no vaccines and no lockdowns, you go for it too. Each to their own.. Peace.. Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things. Ah so healthcare expert because of what you've seen. I myself must know what love is as I've seen Two Girls One Cup. Just my take on things.
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Post by ibex1251 on Oct 2, 2022 10:59:41 GMT -5
I'm not here to argue or fall out about that covid thing.. You want vaccines and lockdowns, you go for it. You want no vaccines and no lockdowns, you go for it too. Each to their own.. Peace.. Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things. Ah so healthcare expert because of what you've seen. I myself must know what love is as I've seen Two Girls One Cup. Just my take on things. No expert sir, just direct experience of those I know in life. Be at peace x
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 2, 2022 12:37:19 GMT -5
Don't you think that it's perhaps a bit different between someone liking an album or movie that you personally think is trash, and someone spreading misinformation that causes danger and death to others? Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things. Care to elaborate on that?
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Post by ibex1251 on Oct 2, 2022 13:03:20 GMT -5
Ps, for what it's worth, I've seen more damage done healthwise caused by the vaccines, than I have caused by covid itself. Mental health impact of lockdowns also. Just my take on things. Care to elaborate on that? If you wish... Middle aged male - blood clot in leg after vaccine. Late 40s male, heart attack after booster.. Another 40's male - collapsed right after 2nd vaccine... Mental health, various people severely stressed while on furlough worried about losing job.. I'm not any agenda here, just saying what I've seen you know??
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Post by walterglass on Oct 3, 2022 2:52:47 GMT -5
Browny has always been a bit of a crank.
Wylie is the same.
Heads full of mountain cabbage but wanna speak up like they possess a clarity the rest of us need to be exposed to.
I mean, it’s their right to air their views. But it’s the right of others to point and laugh at them, if they so wish. And I do wish.
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 3:13:10 GMT -5
Care to elaborate on that? If you wish... Middle aged male - blood clot in leg after vaccine. Late 40s male, heart attack after booster.. Another 40's male - collapsed right after 2nd vaccine... Mental health, various people severely stressed while on furlough worried about losing job.. I'm not any agenda here, just saying what I've seen you know?? Ok, that's fair enough but then if I listed all the tales my sister who is frontline NHS has told me about all the people who she watched slowly and painfully die on their own with no contact from family from covid, not to mention all the people who survived it but who are fucked long-term by it, there wouldn't be enough room for you to scroll down. They point being, the whole situation was a clusterfuck and nobody was right or wrong and Ian is entitled to his views, but when you cross the line that he did i.e. not simply saying he doesn't trust vaccines but talking about the whole things being a conspiracy, then for me you are on very dangerous ground - especially when you have a platform like Ian does.
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Post by walterglass on Oct 3, 2022 3:25:04 GMT -5
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 3, 2022 8:06:14 GMT -5
The shots/jabs helped some people, especially in the beginning — mostly the older population, the overweight and those in bad health. However, they should’ve never forced people to take them and damn sure shouldn’t still be advocating for the younger, relatively healthy people to take boosters. Basically everyone has had covid in one of its iterations and unless they’re compromised, their natural immunity is sufficient without taking something they won’t release legit data on. I know the labels that are put on people who don’t follow the government/lobbyists/media narrative, but that’s been the playbook on everyone that questions/threatens any mainstream topic. There’s A LOT of fuckery afoot when it comes to this and if you aren’t willing to hear/read it, that’s cool; however, if you live in the US, UK or other countries that followed this narrative, you’ve been lied to on several occasions about these shots/jabs. Maybe you don’t mind that, but I do. I’ve seen enough deception and flat-out lies from my local/state/federal government and the media to understand that they don’t really give a fuck about the everyday citizen and will force compliance at any cost if it benefits them.
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 8:39:36 GMT -5
The shots/jabs helped some people, especially in the beginning — mostly the older population, the overweight and those in bad health. However, they should’ve never forced people to take them and damn sure shouldn’t still be advocating for the younger, relatively healthy people to take boosters. Basically everyone has had covid in one of its iterations and unless they’re compromised, their natural immunity is sufficient without taking something they won’t release legit data on. I know the labels that are put on people who don’t follow the government/lobbyists/media narrative, but that’s been the playbook on everyone that questions/threatens any mainstream topic. There’s A LOT of fuckery afoot when it comes to this and if you aren’t willing to hear/read it, that’s cool; however, if you live in the US, UK or other countries that followed this narrative, you’ve been lied to on several occasions about these shots/jabs. Maybe you don’t mind that, but I do. I’ve seen enough deception and flat-out lies from my local/state/federal government and the media to understand that they don’t really give a fuck about the everyday citizen and will force compliance at any cost if it benefits them. Utter bullshit. IMO of course.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 3, 2022 8:42:35 GMT -5
The shots/jabs helped some people, especially in the beginning — mostly the older population, the overweight and those in bad health. However, they should’ve never forced people to take them and damn sure shouldn’t still be advocating for the younger, relatively healthy people to take boosters. Basically everyone has had covid in one of its iterations and unless they’re compromised, their natural immunity is sufficient without taking something they won’t release legit data on. I know the labels that are put on people who don’t follow the government/lobbyists/media narrative, but that’s been the playbook on everyone that questions/threatens any mainstream topic. There’s A LOT of fuckery afoot when it comes to this and if you aren’t willing to hear/read it, that’s cool; however, if you live in the US, UK or other countries that followed this narrative, you’ve been lied to on several occasions about these shots/jabs. Maybe you don’t mind that, but I do. I’ve seen enough deception and flat-out lies from my local/state/federal government and the media to understand that they don’t really give a fuck about the everyday citizen and will force compliance at any cost if it benefits them. Utter bullshit. IMO of course. What is bullshit in that post? Do you not believe that the government and media lie to people?
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 10:05:36 GMT -5
Utter bullshit. IMO of course. What is bullshit in that post? Do you not believe that the government and media lie to people? Do I think the media and government lie to people? I mean are you asking me if a government or a member of the media has ever lied. IN the history of the existence of the planet? Yes. Do I share your views on the covid vaccine re its effects on particular groups of people? i.e. this absolute belter of a statement Absolutely not. I think you are a lunatic if you honestly believe that.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 3, 2022 10:39:39 GMT -5
What is bullshit in that post? Do you not believe that the government and media lie to people? Do I think the media and government lie to people? I mean are you asking me if a government or a member of the media has ever lied. IN the history of the existence of the planet? Yes. Do I share your views on the covid vaccine re its effects on particular groups of people? i.e. this absolute belter of a statement Absolutely not. I think you are a lunatic if you honestly believe that. Would you believe it if I posted links that corroborated natural immunity is at least as effective as the shot/jab? Or that they didn’t provide data that conflicted with their narrative? And when it comes to government/media lies, it happens daily. Do you think the US and its allies were forthcoming about killing millions of innocent people, tens of thousands of their own soldiers or refusing to provide soldiers with necessary services upon returning from numerous wars that were based on COMPLETELY false info peddled to the public? I also work in the legal field in the US and regularly see evidence being fabricated, hidden and STRONG biases impacting peoples’ freedom. Just a couple of examples, but could continue for days. It’s fine if you won’t consider info that doesn’t align with your beliefs, but your statements of “utter bullshit” or “lunatic” don’t strengthen your argument. Look into the info that’s been pushed and I guarantee you’ll find inconsistencies.
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