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Post by tiger40 on Feb 9, 2021 14:35:21 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 9, 2021 17:03:44 GMT -5
I don't blame Beady Eye for coming around quickly. At the risk of being murdered by the Noel fans on here, I'm sure I read in the past Liam was bored of waiting 3 years for Oasis to do stuff. He wanted more action. Easy for him to say when he didn't have to write 12 songs + potential 10 b-sides but there you go. Maybe girllikeabomb's taking a break post above could have been true for Beady Eye. I just think they had songs ready to go (since Heathen Chemistry Sessions at least - The Roller I believe) and wanted to see what they could achieve. It totally makes sense the way it happened at the time -- as you point out, they had some songs, they had the desire and perhaps most importantly, they really did not want it all to end so fast. But I think the idea that it could have taken off in some massive way (at the level of Liam's current solo career) at that moment in time, even if they'd called themselves Liam Gallagher's Biblical Eye and played 50% Oasis, is improbable. (It might even have been worse, as Liam pulling the Oasis stuff out later was much more exciting because people hadn't heard him sing them in so long.) Getting the public back behind you after a controversial period is a bit of a trick. Lucky for Liam, Debbie understood that trick 100%. (And he also had some time to heal his voice and his pride.) But I still think it's a cool and interesting part of the overall story -- flawed but fascinating Beady Eye with their two eccentric, 60s-adoring, indie-style albums in the middle of Liam's more commercial bookends.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 10, 2021 13:45:56 GMT -5
I think that it's a shame that the band's second album BE didn't sell as well as their first album as the songs were so much better. Maybe people just didn't want it after the first album, I know that many fans went with Noel but it would have been great if BE had done a bit better than what it did.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 11, 2021 16:58:12 GMT -5
I think that it's a shame that the band's second album BE didn't sell as well as their first album as the songs were so much better. Maybe people just didn't want it after the first album, I know that many fans went with Noel but it would have been great if BE had done a bit better than what it did. It was a combination of bad and unlucky things really Noel's success had gone beyond expectations and we know (and still see) how much both the fans and media outlets like to take sides, DGSS probably came out too soon and was a bit of a debacle, then you come out with a very odd choice as the first single (Second Bite Of The Apple), Liam's voice got to a all time low as the tour went by and it got fatigued, then the whole divorce thing and Gem's injury to cap it off It's a shame they never really got the chance to at least find their niche, but in the end they're all doing alright and Liam clearly struggles with the idea of his status being that of some kind of *underground* artist, so it's all good
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 12, 2021 14:03:56 GMT -5
I think that it's a shame that the band's second album BE didn't sell as well as their first album as the songs were so much better. Maybe people just didn't want it after the first album, I know that many fans went with Noel but it would have been great if BE had done a bit better than what it did. It was a combination of bad and unlucky things really Noel's success had gone beyond expectations and we know (and still see) how much both the fans and media outlets like to take sides, DGSS probably came out too soon and was a bit of a debacle, then you come out with a very odd choice as the first single (Second Bite Of The Apple), Liam's voice got to a all time low as the tour went by and it got fatigued, then the whole divorce thing and Gem's injury to cap it off It's a shame they never really got the chance to at least find their niche, but in the end they're all doing alright and Liam clearly struggles with the idea of his status being that of some kind of *underground* artist, so it's all good Yeah, I agree with you that it was a combination of bad things after BE was released. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Gem hadn't had that head injury or Liam with his divorce thing what would have happened with the band then and would they have continued. Perhaps not with BE not selling that well and I think after a while Liam lost interest in the band.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 12, 2021 21:34:04 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that. I don’t recall that. There were two waves with DGSS coverage. The initial album roll out talked about the amazing time they had working with the legendary Lillywhite in studio. A year or so later when it didn’t connect, Liam took shots at Lillywhite publicly which prompted Steve to respond. At the end of the day he was kinda right. The album sounds that way because the band wanted it to sound that way. He also said they didn’t have “the songs”. Which is also true.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 13, 2021 14:00:15 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that. I don’t recall that. There were two waves with DGSS coverage. The initial album roll out talked about the amazing time they had working with the legendary Lillywhite in studio. A year or so later when it didn’t connect, Liam took shots at Lillywhite publicly which prompted Steve to respond. At the end of the day he was kinda right. The album sounds that way because the band wanted it to sound that way. He also said they didn’t have “the songs”. Which is also true. Yeah, I remember what Steve Lillywhite said about Different Gear Still Speading a year later but I thought that it was Gem who said that they ended up producing the album themselves or something.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 21, 2021 13:32:06 GMT -5
It's 10 years ago today since Beady Eye released their single The Roller. 10 years ago already it certainly doesn't seem that long.
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Post by jupi on Feb 28, 2021 3:47:13 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that. It wasn't the whole album, just The Roller. The band wanted to double-track Liam's vocals but Lillywhite disagreed. When he left, the band did it anyway.
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 28, 2021 9:00:05 GMT -5
1. Flick Of The Finger 2. Four Letter Word 3. The Roller 4. Bring The Light 5. For Anyone 6. Millionaire 7. In A Bubble (do what we want) 8. The Beat Goes On 9. Wigwam 10. The Morning Son
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 28, 2021 13:38:00 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that. It wasn't the whole album, just The Roller. The band wanted to double-track Liam's vocals but Lillywhite disagreed. When he left, the band did it anyway. Yeah, I knew it was something to do with the first album but I couldn't remember exactly what.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 28, 2021 13:39:44 GMT -5
It's 10 years ago today since Different Gear Still Speading was released. It doesn't seem real that it's now 10 years old already.
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Post by Marissa on Feb 28, 2021 14:18:06 GMT -5
It's 10 years ago today since Different Gear Still Speading was released. It doesn't seem real that it's now 10 years old already. ugh, makes me feel old!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 14:48:02 GMT -5
10 years ago I bought an album I was excited for and ended up being majorly disappointed.
Three Ring Circus FFS. Even just thinking about that song gives me a headache.
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Post by powerage09 on Feb 28, 2021 16:01:23 GMT -5
My dad booked me a ticket to see Beady Eye in Southampton in April 2011, I was on tour when the tickets went on sale so he helped me out. Absolutely amazing gig, in such a small gaff for Liam as well.
Went to Brixton in November 2011 as well but that was absolutely full of dick heads, bit of a nasty vibe at that one.
Love that first album, second one is almost unlistenable in all honesty and the only LG tour I've missed since Be Here (too young) was the second Beady Eye tour because I hate the album.
Crazy it's been 10 years since DGSS came out. I can't imagine that era of Liam's career (or in fact of the members) will ever be remembered, it'll just be allowed to die out over the coming years and will be lucky to make it into career reviews for any of them. Shame really but wrong band, wrong time.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 28, 2021 17:14:03 GMT -5
It's 10 years ago today since Different Gear Still Speading was released. It doesn't seem real that it's now 10 years old already. ugh, makes me feel old!!!! Yeah, it's crazy to think that the album is now 10 years old as it doesn't seem 5 minutes since it was released.
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Post by Lundblad on May 16, 2021 18:50:14 GMT -5
I haven't been as excited ahead of an album release or as in love with a new album since the times with DGSS in the winter 2010-11. Or as active in this forum. In hindsight, I think that BE has stronger songs, but I like the sounds of both albums in their own ways, they are two different takes on retro rock. I liked how unashamedly retro Beady Eye was. I liked the authenticity and the whole genuine feeling of Beady Eye. It felt like a band that really enjoyed what it was doing, with no care of how music was supposed to sound and be made in the contemporary time. Liam might have better songs now, but they still don't move me the way Beady Eye did.
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 16, 2021 19:42:40 GMT -5
I haven't been as excited ahead of an album release or as in love with a new album since the times with DGSS in the winter 2010-11. Or as active in this forum. In hindsight, I think that BE has stronger songs, but I like the sounds of both albums in their own ways, they are two different takes on retro rock. I liked how unashamedly retro Beady Eye was. I liked the authenticity and the whole genuine feeling of Beady Eye. It felt like a band that really enjoyed what it was doing, with no care of how music was supposed to sound and be made in the contemporary time. Liam might have better songs now, but they still don't move me the way Beady Eye did. It's refreshing to see an unabashed Beady Eye fan!
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 16, 2021 21:05:34 GMT -5
I haven't been as excited ahead of an album release or as in love with a new album since the times with DGSS in the winter 2010-11. Or as active in this forum. In hindsight, I think that BE has stronger songs, but I like the sounds of both albums in their own ways, they are two different takes on retro rock. I liked how unashamedly retro Beady Eye was. I liked the authenticity and the whole genuine feeling of Beady Eye. It felt like a band that really enjoyed what it was doing, with no care of how music was supposed to sound and be made in the contemporary time. Liam might have better songs now, but they still don't move me the way Beady Eye did. But they did care. Liam definitely was impacted by the lack of universal interest. It hurt his pride. He basically threw Steve Lillywhite under the bus for how bad DGSS sounded (not his fault at all) and he was further stunned when BE also didn’t connect to a broader fan base despite bringing in a very modern and producer. Liam’s fuel is the fans.
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Post by tiger40 on May 17, 2021 12:54:36 GMT -5
I like both of Beady Eye's albums but BE is definitely my favourite out of the two. I think that they rushed to get out Different Gear Still Speading instead of taking their time with it after the Oasis split. I mean Bring The Light was released just over a year after the Oasis split which in my opinion was far too early especially as it was the wrong song to release as their first single anyway when they had songs like Four Letter Word and The Roller. It's just a shame that things didn't work out for them in the end as they had some good songs.
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Post by garylineker on Mar 31, 2022 18:27:49 GMT -5
I can remember in an interview where I think Gem said they ended up producing the album themselves after Steve Lillywhite left or something like that. I don’t recall that. There were two waves with DGSS coverage. The initial album roll out talked about the amazing time they had working with the legendary Lillywhite in studio. A year or so later when it didn’t connect, Liam took shots at Lillywhite publicly which prompted Steve to respond. At the end of the day he was kinda right. The album sounds that way because the band wanted it to sound that way. He also said they didn’t have “the songs”. Which is also true. Easy for them both to take shots in hindsight. You say it's fair game to say they didn't have the songs but if the album is deemed a success then he wouldn't be saying things like that either. You usually listen to the songs before agreeing to start producing so it's all a bit tit for tat in that regard.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 31, 2022 19:48:12 GMT -5
I don’t recall that. There were two waves with DGSS coverage. The initial album roll out talked about the amazing time they had working with the legendary Lillywhite in studio. A year or so later when it didn’t connect, Liam took shots at Lillywhite publicly which prompted Steve to respond. At the end of the day he was kinda right. The album sounds that way because the band wanted it to sound that way. He also said they didn’t have “the songs”. Which is also true. Easy for them both to take shots in hindsight. You say it's fair game to say they didn't have the songs but if the album is deemed a success then he wouldn't be saying things like that either. You usually listen to the songs before agreeing to start producing so it's all a bit tit for tat in that regard. I don’t think Liam should have said anything to be honest. Steve wasn’t the problem. Just let it lie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 9:23:37 GMT -5
For me Beady Eye occupy the same space as Badfinger and that's a very good thing.
Although i agree with most of the points re should have moved from Ignition, shorter DGSS, own-written Oasis songs on first tour etc, what they really should have done was kept the name Oasis, put a few of the new songs in live set and cracked on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 10:40:33 GMT -5
Beady Eye have wrong from the beginning the way to present themselves as a group without Noel and without songs that made Liam Gallagher famous, all for "spite" to Noel. 60's music didn't help. They tried again experimenting but the promotion was what it was, I remember there was also a lot of competition at the time, there was the Black Sabbath album if I'm not mistaken.
Let's say they were very unlucky.
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Post by Lundblad on May 23, 2023 15:43:41 GMT -5
10 years ago we had gotten these teasers and tomorrow we will have heard Bring The Light for the first time, what are some Beady Eye memories you have or thoughts after all this time? <3 <3 I remember the hype I felt when I saw that clip Edit: Sorry if I'm replying to too old posts..
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