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Post by tiger40 on Nov 13, 2020 16:48:18 GMT -5
All this talk about Beady Eye makes me want to listen to some of their live stuff now. I might just do that . I was just listening to "Iz Rite" from the Abbey Road gig on my stereo - what an amazing song! Unfortunately I never saw them live but his voice in this acoustic promo gigs from 2013 sounded pretty good to me - way better than at the end of Oasis. I haven't listened to the Abby Road gig for a long time. I remember around that time they also did an acoustic gig on XFM as it was called then. I do have both on one of my sd cards some where. |
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Post by liammuc on Nov 14, 2020 3:06:39 GMT -5
I was just listening to "Iz Rite" from the Abbey Road gig on my stereo - what an amazing song! Unfortunately I never saw them live but his voice in this acoustic promo gigs from 2013 sounded pretty good to me - way better than at the end of Oasis. I haven't listened to the Abby Road gig for a long time. I remember around that time they also did an acoustic gig on XFM as it was called then. I do have both on one of my sd cards some where. Haven't heard the XFM one ("Off at the next exit") before. Nice one. There was also an acoustic performance on some french radio station (OUI FM) - there is also video footage on youtube. Once again - his voice sounded pretty good in 2013. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 14, 2020 7:48:19 GMT -5
Four Letter Word with Sons Of The Stage as b-side was always the way to go.
felt weird they acted like a NEW band upon the release of DGSS (shit artwork too)
saying 'we don't need Noel', 'it's better than Definitely Maybe'
how fucking amazing they managed to do the Letterman gig, sadly they only had a couple of good songs
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 14, 2020 13:56:41 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the Abby Road gig for a long time. I remember around that time they also did an acoustic gig on XFM as it was called then. I do have both on one of my sd cards some where. Haven't heard the XFM one ("Off at the next exit") before. Nice one. There was also an acoustic performance on some french radio station (OUI FM) - there is also video footage on youtube. Once again - his voice sounded pretty good in 2013. There was an interview on the XFM one too and I remember the OUI FM one but I haven't listened to it in a long time. Start Anew was one of the songs they played I seem to remember. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 14, 2020 22:58:52 GMT -5
Beady Eye: The Clock On The Wall Says Its Time...
1) Four Letter Word
2) Millionaire
3) The Roller
4) Bring The Light
5) The Morning Son
6) In The Bubble With A Bullet
7) Flick of The Finger
8) Soul Love
9) Second Bite of The Apple
10) I'm Just Saying
11) Shine A Light
12) Evil Eye
13) White Smoke
14) Sons of The Stage
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Post by Rolo on Nov 15, 2020 4:49:29 GMT -5
Beady Eye: The Clock On The Wall Says Its Time...1) Four Letter Word 2) Millionaire 3) The Roller 4) Bring The Light 5) The Morning Son 6) In The Bubble With A Bullet 7) Flick of The Finger 8) Soul Love 9) Second Bite of The Apple 10) I'm Just Saying 11) Shine A Light 12) Evil Eye 13) White Smoke 14) Sons of The Stage Needs more Off At The Next Exit and World Outside My Room. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 15, 2020 9:13:48 GMT -5
Beady Eye: The Clock On The Wall Says Its Time...1) Four Letter Word 2) Millionaire 3) The Roller 4) Bring The Light 5) The Morning Son 6) In The Bubble With A Bullet 7) Flick of The Finger 8) Soul Love 9) Second Bite of The Apple 10) I'm Just Saying 11) Shine A Light 12) Evil Eye 13) White Smoke 14) Sons of The Stage Needs more Off At The Next Exit and World Outside My Room. Was trying for a quick all encompassing compilation. In my opinion those 4 bonus tracks (Exit, Evil, Girls, Back After) off BE are the peak material of the band. Wish it was its own little EP. can’t praise it enough. |
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 15, 2020 13:36:33 GMT -5
I wish that Beady Eye had released White Smoke as it would have made a good b.side or something.
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Post by modxxii on Nov 15, 2020 13:47:27 GMT -5
Beady Eye: The Clock On The Wall Says Its Time...1) Four Letter Word 2) Millionaire 3) The Roller 4) Bring The Light 5) The Morning Son 6) In The Bubble With A Bullet 7) Flick of The Finger 8) Soul Love 9) Second Bite of The Apple 10) I'm Just Saying 11) Shine A Light 12) Evil Eye 13) White Smoke 14) Sons of The Stage I would add Wigwam. Anyway, underrated band. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 17, 2020 4:53:08 GMT -5
Better records than Liam solo, good live band, but wrong timing and marketing. Too soon. Too bad.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 17, 2020 16:44:14 GMT -5
1) Flick Of The Finger
2) Four Letter Word
3) Millionaire
4) The Roller
5) Soul Love
6) The Beat Goes On
7) In The Bubble With A Bullet
8. Bring The Light
9) The World's Not Set In Stone
10. The Morning Son
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Post by soulsucker on Nov 27, 2020 10:16:39 GMT -5
A:
Flick Of The Finger
Four Letter Word
Soul Love
B:
Millionaire
The Roller
Iz Rite
Shine A Light
C:
Bring The Light
In The Bubble With A Bullet (recorded more the way they played it live)
Kill For A Dream
D:
The World's Not Set In Stone
Wigwam
The Morning Son
Singles:
A: Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger
B: Off At The Next Exit and Evil Eye
A: The Roller and Bring The Light
B: Two Of A Kind and Sons Of The Stage
A: Millionaire
B: World Outside My Room
Man Of Misery doesn't fit in anywhere. Maybe as as RSD release.
This would be the perfect album for me. I loved this band so much. Right band for me at the moment back then. Saw them on both tours. What a blast. F*cking amazing.
I know I'm in a minority but I prefer them over Liam solo.
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Post by shadowplay on Dec 4, 2020 18:51:52 GMT -5
I really like Beady Eye but I'm a lifelong Oasis fan so that's to be expected. Their problem was the name, old, dusty production on the songs, horrifically poor lyrics that you would usually expect to hear from a talentless bedroom guitarist (like me) and Liam's uninspired poor singing technique. The songs also often sounded like first drafts, they had no hit singles, a few too many total bottom of the barrel songs (like SOTEOTN, Shine A Light, Face The Crowd, Two Of A Kind etc etc) and Liam had a bit of an identity crisis at the time and some of his poorest looks
There was also a decision to build the song around Liam's comfortable range instead of pushing him which made the songs sound so flat and lazy. Every Beady Eye song you can sing along to without any effort and the choruses of all songs don't ever seem to move up or down much in key or tempo. Compare that to the melodic and euphoric chorus of Wall of glass that he came back with. You got nothing like that, Come Back To Me or I've All I Need in Beady Eye and for me that was the issue.
You listen to Liam for his voice and the emotion he conveys in the song. If his voice is flat and nasal, the songs are lyrically on par with improvised nursery rhymes and the songs never hit that euphoric high like you get in the best parts of Liam's solo songs then what is there to like for the casual listener? Liam crooning along to a song like Wind up Dream just isn't going to appeal to anyone besides the die hards.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2020 19:02:58 GMT -5
I really like Beady Eye but I'm a lifelong Oasis fan so that's to be expected. Their problem was the name, old, dusty production on the songs, horrifically poor lyrics that you would usually expect to hear from a talentless bedroom guitarist (like me) and Liam's uninspired poor singing technique. The songs also often sounded like first drafts, they had no hit singles, a few too many total bottom of the barrel songs (like SOTEOTN, Shine A Light, Face The Crowd, Two Of A Kind etc etc) and Liam had a bit of an identity crisis at the time and some of his poorest looks There was also a decision to build the song around Liam's comfortable range instead of pushing him which made the songs sound so flat and lazy. Every Beady Eye song you can sing along to without any effort and the choruses of all songs don't ever seem to move up or down much in key or tempo. Compare that to the melodic and euphoric chorus of Wall of glass that he came back with. You got nothing like that, Come Back To Me or I've All I Need in Beady Eye and for me that was the issue. You listen to Liam for his voice and the emotion he conveys in the song. If his voice is flat and nasal, the songs are lyrically on par with improvised nursery rhymes and the songs never hit that euphoric high like you get in the best parts of Liam's solo songs then what is there to like for the casual listener? Liam crooning along to a song like Wind up Dream just isn't going to appeal to anyone besides the die hards. It is hard to be a good band without a songwriter within it. Not sure what happened to Andy during his Oasis/Beady years. Obviously he is a legend with Ride and the songs he cooked up for them during the reunion were really strong. Plus his 2 solo album from the last 12 months are excellent. We know Liam can write the odd tune here and there but 12-15 songs for an album cycle? I think not sir! As fas as Gem, well try he might but at the end of the day he's a great band member and that is fine. Not a songwriter per say. |
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Post by garylineker on Dec 4, 2020 21:56:01 GMT -5
Calling it Beady Eye was the first huge mistake. Can see why they never called it Liam Gallagher's *inster name* but it needed that for a kick off. There's Liam solo songs that have performed better than Beady Eye just because his name is on it. That's a fact. Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger are better songs than some of Liam's solo singles. The Roller would have been a hit for Liam solo too.
The album cover, yet another huge miss. I read on here at the time everyone saying Liam's solo album needs just him on the front. They did exactly that. It wasn't rocket science, or the "amazing Debbie", it was just common sense.
I also think there was people that just didnt want it to work as well. Similar to how some journalists would just bash anything Oasis put out just because they wanted to see them fail. All of that seemed to shift to Liam and i noticed a lot of people kind of giving Noel a pass from all his antics in Oasis, and putting it all down to not liking Liam. So Bring The Light (as ambitious as it was to show they weren't Oasis) wasn't the right choice, it just gives people ammo. You are virtually Oasis, just release Four Letter Word.
I think time will be kind to Beady Eye. When i go to their videos on Youtube its mainly just positive now with people saying stuff like "cant believe people didnt get this band". I think now you just have the music, and non of the prejudice, there's a lot to enjoy and people will look back and say they did some pretty fucking good stuff while they were around.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2020 22:17:14 GMT -5
Calling it Beady Eye was the first huge mistake. Can see why they never called it Liam Gallagher's *inster name* but it needed that for a kick off. There's Liam solo songs that have performed better than Beady Eye just because his name is on it. That's a fact. Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger are better songs than some of Liam's solo singles. The Roller would have been a hit for Liam solo too. The album cover, yet another huge miss. I read on here at the time everyone saying Liam's solo album needs just him on the front. They did exactly that. It wasn't rocket science, or the "amazing Debbie", it was just common sense. I also think there was people that just didnt want it to work as well. Similar to how some journalists would just bash anything Oasis put out just because they wanted to see them fail. All of that seemed to shift to Liam and i noticed a lot of people kind of giving Noel a pass from all his antics in Oasis, and putting it all down to not liking Liam. So Bring The Light (as ambitious as it was to show they weren't Oasis) wasn't the right choice, it just gives people ammo. You are virtually Oasis, just release Four Letter Word. I think time will be kind to Beady Eye. When i go to their videos on Youtube its mainly just positive now with people saying stuff like "cant believe people didnt get this band". I think now you just have the music, and non of the prejudice, there's a lot to enjoy and people will look back and say they did some pretty fucking good stuff while they were around. When Oasis broke up, the brand names of Noel Gallagher and Liam Gallagher would skyrocket. Don’t run or hide from it. I always wanted solo Liam. It’s a powerful brand and I knew continuing on with Andy, Gem and Chris would get no traction and viewed as Oasis lite. |
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Post by Aman on Dec 5, 2020 0:51:09 GMT -5
Calling it Beady Eye was the first huge mistake. Can see why they never called it Liam Gallagher's *inster name* but it needed that for a kick off. There's Liam solo songs that have performed better than Beady Eye just because his name is on it. That's a fact. Four Letter Word and Flick Of The Finger are better songs than some of Liam's solo singles. The Roller would have been a hit for Liam solo too. The album cover, yet another huge miss. I read on here at the time everyone saying Liam's solo album needs just him on the front. They did exactly that. It wasn't rocket science, or the "amazing Debbie", it was just common sense. I also think there was people that just didnt want it to work as well. Similar to how some journalists would just bash anything Oasis put out just because they wanted to see them fail. All of that seemed to shift to Liam and i noticed a lot of people kind of giving Noel a pass from all his antics in Oasis, and putting it all down to not liking Liam. So Bring The Light (as ambitious as it was to show they weren't Oasis) wasn't the right choice, it just gives people ammo. You are virtually Oasis, just release Four Letter Word. I think time will be kind to Beady Eye. When i go to their videos on Youtube its mainly just positive now with people saying stuff like "cant believe people didnt get this band". I think now you just have the music, and non of the prejudice, there's a lot to enjoy and people will look back and say they did some pretty fucking good stuff while they were around. Yeah they had some good songs. (ala the ones you mentioned) But the simple fact is DGSS and BE are frankly bad albums. I could never listen to either fully ever again. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 5, 2020 13:42:20 GMT -5
I like Beady Eye but I don't listen to them much now. However if Liam did go solo straight after the Oasis split then he would have needed some professional songwriters like he has now. So it would have been interesting to see who would have worked with him at that time. I'm sure that there would be a few lining up though.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 5, 2020 18:19:47 GMT -5
That Sons of the Stage teaser brings back memories. Remember hearing that and being so excited, then listening to Bring the Light and thinking 'what the fuck is this shit?'
That was their biggest mistake imo. They tried to make a statement that they were offering something different and weren't just Oasis without Noel. So they released what was essentially a Jerry Lee Lewis rip off, but the public didn't want different, they wanted Liam and Oasis. Yet they had a genuinely good Oasis-sounding song in their locker in Four Letter Word which could have been their signature song. Circumstantial I know, but most of my mates are massive Oasis fans, yet all bar a couple immediately gave up on them after hearing Bring the Light.
They had an album's worth of decent songs spread across two albums, which isn't really a bad return, but the rest was absolute dross. The production on DGSS was dreary. The production on BE was much better but the album was poorer as a whole.
Still, they had their moments. Saw them 3 times and they were excellent live. Was at their first gig at the Barrowlands which is still one of my favourite gigs. Electric atmosphere and there was a real buzz when Liam came out and snarled 'Time to choose a side, Glasgow' then kicked off with Four Letter Word. Saw them in Sheffield towards the end of the year which was another good gig, then Newcastle on the BE tour which wasn't quite as good. Felt a bit like things were slipping away from them by that point.
They were really unlucky with Gem's injury though, and with the timing of Liam's affair coming out just after they released BE, killing their momentum. The whole 3-4 years they were active was just incredibly frustrating. On one hand, they were brave in not playing Oasis songs and tried to pass themselves off as a new band, yet sold out their first tour in minutes and got a load of publicity on the back of Liam's name. But on the other hand, the Liam Gallagher name held them back - the timing wasn't right and there was little appetite from the public for Liam, they started off as big as they were going to get and it was all downhill from there. Things were actually ticking along ok for them until Noel's infamous press conference which was a nail in their coffin.
Was really sad towards the end when Coachella was cancelled and it felt like the beginning of the end for Liam. Suppose it makes the comeback even more special.
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Post by underneaththesky on Dec 5, 2020 20:43:41 GMT -5
the "WE'RE A NEW BAND and we don't need Noel" thing was wrong from the beginning
3-4 great singles, makes it a good band for me
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 6, 2020 14:53:43 GMT -5
Thankful they existed when they did.
Disappointing, though, but also expected when you lose you song writer, after a bad band breakup.
I don’t go out of my way to listen to them - can’t even remember when I last did. They do have some good songs, though.
However, when your best work is a cover, you know you’re in trouble. That said, Sons of the Stage blew me away. Up there with Come On Feel the Noize (Maine Road 1996). Oasis should have covered it - very, very good. And the live video version was superb as well. But sadly, that wa Beady Eye’s pinnacle.
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 6, 2020 17:18:32 GMT -5
They had potential, especially with their second album, but then all other things hit them - half empty venues on the European tour in 2014, Liam's love child affair, divorce, Gem's injury, gigs got cancelled...
Yet I'm glad that I saw them 3 times (and met Liam).
Beady Eye was what Liam needed in his career.
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Post by glider on Dec 6, 2020 17:45:11 GMT -5
1. Four Letter Word
2. Second Bite Of The Apple
3. The Roller
4. Wigwam
5. Soul Love
6. Millionaire
7. Flick of the Finger
8. Sons of the Stage (Cover)
9. I'm Just Saying
10. Bring the Light
11. The Beat Goes On
12. Off At The Next Exit
13. The World's Not Set In Stone
14. Soon Comes Tomorrow
15. Evil Eye
16. Back After The Break
17. The Morning Son
18. Start Anew
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Post by mancraider on Dec 6, 2020 18:01:07 GMT -5
If Beady Eye were to succeed then, in hindsight, what I think they needed was to cut all ties and start again with a new management/label and take the time to create the right debut album.
As soon as Noel returned and their shared management realised what side their bread was buttered and ditched Beady Eye halfway through a world tour the writing was on the wall. They were rudderless and didn't have the experience in terms of how to run things to be able to turn around what proved to be a terminal decline. I think by the time they signed for Quest it was too late. They should have done it before the first album, the damage was already done.
Still, the most important thing that came out of Beady Eye for Liam was meeting Debbie. She has proved to be a major stabilising influence on him. Dread to think where he might have ended up without her.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 6, 2020 22:23:51 GMT -5
This might be a bit of a strange memory but flipping over the Four Letter Word vintil i'd just had delivered in the post and playing the b-side World Outside My Room on my Grandad's old record player was the first and only time i'd ever heard a song for the first time on a record. That b-side hadn't leaked anywhere beforehand and it was a really special moment looking back.
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