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Post by World71R on Apr 10, 2020 21:41:54 GMT -5
THE Oasis drummer! Did we ever get a definitive answer to why he was kicked out? I think he was displeased with the direction Noel was taking the rhythm section in HC and SOTSOG. There were more loops, acoustic approaches, and electronic elements used to where his role was minimized when combined with being mixed lower too (compare the volume of the drums on HC to some of the previous albums for reference). It's a shame, though. Alan White is the Oasis drummer, like you said, and they really missed something once he left (which is noticeable if you watch Glastonbury 2004, the first Zak gig). |
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Post by Howdo on Apr 11, 2020 3:13:53 GMT -5
Fuckin hell that's got me excited too!!! The music was never the same when Alan left for me, Oasis never quite got their drummer right after him I don’t think Zak was ever quite right but Chris Sharrock was ace. Zak is probably one of the best drummers I’ve seen live, saw him with The Who before he joined Oasis and he was phenomenal but he was never right for Oasis. Alan was the man for me, not doubting Chris but he joined Oasis when they were on the down. Alan was there through their prime and was just the heartbeat of the band. Good to see him back tho, even if it is just on social media. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 4:25:36 GMT -5
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 11, 2020 4:40:49 GMT -5
Interesting. I never knew about their supposed argument, i thought he just left because he’d had enough and was unhappy about the drums being mixed so low on HC. But yes, interesting if that really is another exposed porkie of Noels |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 11, 2020 6:01:49 GMT -5
I don’t think Zak was ever quite right but Chris Sharrock was ace. Zak is probably one of the best drummers I’ve seen live, saw him with The Who before he joined Oasis and he was phenomenal but he was never right for Oasis. Alan was the man for me, not doubting Chris but he joined Oasis when they were on the down. Alan was there through their prime and was just the heartbeat of the band. Good to see him back tho, even if it is just on social media. Totally agree, I’ve seen the Who with Zak and he’s brilliant just didn’t suit Oasis. I like Alan and thought he was very good but I still prefer Chris’s drumming. I don’t think Alan ever nailed Rock n Roll Star like Chris. Haha I still think the best live drummer for Oasis was his Brother Steve. |
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Post by silverhammer on Apr 11, 2020 6:04:25 GMT -5
Problem we have is I don’t think Noel will do it without Gem and Chris. And Liam won’t do it without Bonehead. Liam, Noel, Bonehead, Gem, Andy, Chris or Alan would be the line up. (more than likely Chris). Mike on keyboards too. Split the duties between the eras of songs. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 6:09:18 GMT -5
Interesting. I never knew about their supposed argument, i thought he just left because he’d had enough and was unhappy about the drums being mixed so low on HC. But yes, interesting if that really is another exposed porkie of Noels We have his brother's version of what happened: Steve White: "There were some disputes about meetings. I wasn't there so I couldn't comment. What you would get would be a story from either side. I am sure they've all got their opinions, and I respect that. The bottom line is that Alan got a call four days before Christmas from 'The Manager', and he was told he was out of the band. And he hasn't seen or heard from Noel or Liam since." "All Alan wanted, was to have a pint of Stella, and the guys to say what we want is to get Zak Starkey in, as we don't think you're right for us anymore. Alan would have had no problem with that, as nothing lasts forever. But it was just the circumstances of the events which were shocking. They shocked me, and they hurt Alan. "…(Alan) would love to play again, but I think he was really hurt the way it was done, with Oasis. But he wasn't the first musician that it had happened to. "But for someone like Liam, and Noel, who presents this image: I am tough, I am hard, and I can take on anyone. They couldn't stand there, face to face, with Alan, I don't like that." www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/steve-white-slams-oasis-treatment-of-drummer-165921 |
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Post by The Chief on Apr 11, 2020 8:03:25 GMT -5
Mmm... so the falling out that caused Whitey to leave was with Liam. It's been 17 years and Whitey's subscribed to Liam...
REUNION IMMINENT!!!
Seriously though, Liam, Bonehead and Whitey, that'll do me. Guigsy would be cool but not an absolute necessity. If Noel isn't there and he's not replaced by Jay Mehler, then I'd be happy.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 11, 2020 8:09:56 GMT -5
Interesting. I never knew about their supposed argument, i thought he just left because he’d had enough and was unhappy about the drums being mixed so low on HC. But yes, interesting if that really is another exposed porkie of Noels We have his brother's version of what happened: Steve White: "There were some disputes about meetings. I wasn't there so I couldn't comment. What you would get would be a story from either side. I am sure they've all got their opinions, and I respect that. The bottom line is that Alan got a call four days before Christmas from 'The Manager', and he was told he was out of the band. And he hasn't seen or heard from Noel or Liam since." "All Alan wanted, was to have a pint of Stella, and the guys to say what we want is to get Zak Starkey in, as we don't think you're right for us anymore. Alan would have had no problem with that, as nothing lasts forever. But it was just the circumstances of the events which were shocking. They shocked me, and they hurt Alan. "…(Alan) would love to play again, but I think he was really hurt the way it was done, with Oasis. But he wasn't the first musician that it had happened to. "But for someone like Liam, and Noel, who presents this image: I am tough, I am hard, and I can take on anyone. They couldn't stand there, face to face, with Alan, I don't like that." www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/steve-white-slams-oasis-treatment-of-drummer-165921 Ooooh...well everydays a school day. Given that everyone always said Noel was like the co-manager (wasnt called The Chief for nothing!), it wouldnt surprise me if Liams telling the truth here. Admittedly, Liam maybe should have stayed in touch with Alan anyways if he really still cared. But i suppose he felt that for the good of the band and his relationship with Noel, he had to let Alan go. |
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Post by Howdo on Apr 11, 2020 8:22:54 GMT -5
Zak is probably one of the best drummers I’ve seen live, saw him with The Who before he joined Oasis and he was phenomenal but he was never right for Oasis. Alan was the man for me, not doubting Chris but he joined Oasis when they were on the down. Alan was there through their prime and was just the heartbeat of the band. Good to see him back tho, even if it is just on social media. Totally agree, I’ve seen the Who with Zak and he’s brilliant just didn’t suit Oasis. I like Alan and thought he was very good but I still prefer Chris’s drumming. I don’t think Alan ever nailed Rock n Roll Star like Chris. Haha I still think the best live drummer for Oasis was his Brother Steve. I’ve been a big fan of a couple of bands that Chris was in (The LA’s and Lightning Seeds) and I do think he’s a good drummer, really fits the sound of Oasis. One of my favourite tunes of Dig Out Your Soul is Waiting For The Rapture and I think I enjoy that not just because of The Doors connection but the drumming is quality. I’ve followed Oasis since Definitely Maybe and although I never minded Tony, you just always got used to Alan on the drums and he always seemed part of the most successful times of Oasis. I’m a big Weller fan and he always runs a tight ship with quality musicians in his band so I was quite excited when Steve played with Oasis on the Brotherly Love tour. I think Chris let himself down by playing with Robbie Williams! |
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Post by oneofus on Apr 11, 2020 8:24:32 GMT -5
At this point I could see Liam bringing out
Bonehead (guaranteed) maybe full gig
Alan White for 2-3 songs
Andy Bell for 2-3 songs
And probably 1 encore finale with all of them.
That's my guess. Maybe All around the World due to our current affairs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 8:37:02 GMT -5
Found this quote from Alan:
"Who do you tend to hang out with most in the band?
I’m with Liam a lot, we just really get on together and have fun. It’s not just about being two geezers in a band, it’s also about being friends. It’s almost like a marriage, really."
Too bad their friendship turned sour.
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Post by oneofus on Apr 11, 2020 8:44:38 GMT -5
Found this quote from Alan: "Who do you tend to hang out with most in the band? I’m with Liam a lot, we just really get on together and have fun. It’s not just about being two geezers in a band, it’s also about being friends. It’s almost like a marriage, really." Too bad their friendship turned sour. He tagged Liam in his insta post so they're good. I'm sure he gave Alan a ring or something. They probably had an amazing catch up chat. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 11, 2020 10:01:57 GMT -5
Found this quote from Alan: "Who do you tend to hang out with most in the band? I’m with Liam a lot, we just really get on together and have fun. It’s not just about being two geezers in a band, it’s also about being friends. It’s almost like a marriage, really." Too bad their friendship turned sour. He tagged Liam in his insta post so they're good. I'm sure he gave Alan a ring or something. They probably had an amazing catch up chat. I hope so. Suppose its been long enough to put it behind them, and by the sound of it Noel was more behind firing him than Liam (a bit like Tony, weirdly enough). I guess its all water under the bridge now. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2020 10:47:02 GMT -5
Whitey clearly practicing for a reunion.
Serious post.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2020 10:55:19 GMT -5
I have been having a shit couple days. This thread has cheered me up.
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 11, 2020 10:55:57 GMT -5
Whitey clearly practicing for .. something. Serious post. FIFY! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2020 13:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by goletitout1986 on Apr 12, 2020 15:11:49 GMT -5
Weren't Liam n Alan referred to as Bert n Ernie whilst they were in the band? I'd love to see Alan involved with something - him/Oasis made me pick up my sticks in the first place.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 12, 2020 17:43:40 GMT -5
Weren't Liam n Alan referred to as Bert n Ernie whilst they were in the band? I'd love to see Alan involved with something - him/Oasis made me pick up my sticks in the first place. That rings a bell, would make sense as Liam was always known to be Alans closest friend in the band. |
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Post by thewhiteshadow on Apr 12, 2020 18:14:29 GMT -5
The Oasis drummer of me, it was never the same when Al got sacked. The music changed alot when Zak joined (listen for example to Wonderwall and Cigarettes & Alcohol on The Glastonbury gig in 2004 its @&/!! dreadful). Chris sounded okay to me but never got the “jazzyrocknrollvibe” to me.
I hope Alan will joins Liam band with Bonehead (all the songs) and it would be amazing
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Post by silverhammer on Apr 13, 2020 8:39:02 GMT -5
 Why don't they give Scott a call for the reunion? |
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Post by globe on Apr 13, 2020 16:26:14 GMT -5
The Oasis drummer of me, it was never the same when Al got sacked. The music changed alot when Zak joinen (listen for example to Wonderwall and Cigarettes & Alcohol on The Glastonbury gig in 2004 its @&/!! dreadful). Chris sounded okay to me but never got the “jazzyrocknrollvibe” to me. I hope Alan will joins Liam band with Bonehead (all the songs) and it would be amazing Thon Glastonbury performance was horrific. Noel looked like he was half sleeping, Liam struggling to sing while wearing his maws hoose coat and Zaks lumpen drumming. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 13, 2020 17:46:01 GMT -5
The Oasis drummer of me, it was never the same when Al got sacked. The music changed alot when Zak joinen (listen for example to Wonderwall and Cigarettes & Alcohol on The Glastonbury gig in 2004 its @&/!! dreadful). Chris sounded okay to me but never got the “jazzyrocknrollvibe” to me. I hope Alan will joins Liam band with Bonehead (all the songs) and it would be amazing Thon Glastonbury performance was horrific. Noel looked like he was half sleeping, Liam struggling to sing while wearing his maws hoose coat and Zaks lumpen drumming. To this day I still havent seen that performance; ive heard so many bad things that i dont dare watch it 😂 |
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Post by powerage09 on Apr 13, 2020 19:13:21 GMT -5
It's only Glastonbury. They blew the roof off Poole Lighthouse a few days before.
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