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Post by andymorris on Jul 14, 2019 6:45:47 GMT -5
Noel is getting older, so the more material the better. Quality > Quantity. Most of Noel's post-NGHFB s/t album output is dull. Thank god we also get the remixes... Well it's all a matter of opinion, i hate all the remixes he's done. The EP was worth releasing, as a standalone release. Many bands do throaway EPs of stuff that dont fit elsewhere, and it's always a nice treat inbetween bigger releases. Thank god for Yellow Submarine, Magical Mystery tour.. etc not the Beatles best releases but i'm glad they exist.
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Post by MONO on Jul 14, 2019 8:26:07 GMT -5
Thank god for Yellow Submarine, Magical Mystery tour.. etc You just compared "Black Star Dancing" to "Yellow Submarine" or "Magical Mystery Tour"?
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Post by LlAM on Jul 14, 2019 8:35:14 GMT -5
Thank god for Yellow Submarine, Magical Mystery tour.. etc You just compared "Black Star Dancing" to "Yellow Submarine" or "Magical Mystery Tour"? Yes, in a conceptual way, he did.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 14, 2019 9:25:25 GMT -5
You just compared "Black Star Dancing" to "Yellow Submarine" or "Magical Mystery Tour"? Yes, in a conceptual way, he did. Thank you for reading things the right way.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 14, 2019 14:29:34 GMT -5
Its a cop out for me to say he is just choosing not to write another classic oasis type song.
If he still had the ability to, he would.
It isnt even that different an approach to songwriting. If anything its just even more blatent stealing than in Oasis. Openly sat there listening to tracks just to rip off their bass lines or hooks.
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Post by MONO on Jul 14, 2019 15:21:45 GMT -5
Yes, in a conceptual way, he did. Then he made a mistake as one is an album and the other one a double EP. (I forced myself not to comment the obvious differences of the artistic level)
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Post by warewolf95 on Jul 16, 2019 19:43:02 GMT -5
This. I can't stand Who Built The Moon. I loved the 3 new songs on the first EP. Felt like THIS is what WBTM should've been.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 17, 2019 1:41:55 GMT -5
Yes, in a conceptual way, he did. Then he made a mistake as one is an album and the other one a double EP. (I forced myself not to comment the obvious differences of the artistic level) FFS you guys are fucking crazy sometimes. You read what you want to read, i was obviously making a reference to the fact that all are minor releases in the mind of the artist. Not talking about quality or format, FFS again.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 17, 2019 2:23:24 GMT -5
After the horrible reception of the EP... Noel still doesn’t give a shit. He’s gone soft. The lifestyle he is living now has castrated his creativity. We’ll be getting middle of the road, chorus-less lullaby’s with a drum machine (or someone who sounds like one) until the end of his days.
Accept it. I have.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 17, 2019 9:32:51 GMT -5
OKish EP, nothing mindblowing, at least Noel tried some new tricks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 11:11:13 GMT -5
This. I can't stand Who Built The Moon. I loved the 3 new songs on the first EP. Felt like THIS is what WBTM should've been. And I'm the exact opposite. I loved WBTM, but can't stand any of the songs on the new EP.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 17, 2019 12:48:54 GMT -5
This. I can't stand Who Built The Moon. I loved the 3 new songs on the first EP. Felt like THIS is what WBTM should've been. And I'm the exact opposite. I loved WBTM, but can't stand any of the songs on the new EP. I loved and still listen to WBTM from start to finish. After a while the bass to Black Star Dancing started growing on me but to me it's one of these weaker tracks like In The Heat of The Moment or She Taught Me To Fly. Rattling Rose is pretty good but I still LOVE Sail On. Given I hate remixes, the 12" version of BSD and its remix do nothing for me.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 17, 2019 13:08:15 GMT -5
And I'm the exact opposite. I loved WBTM, but can't stand any of the songs on the new EP. I loved and still listen to WBTM from start to finish. After a while the bass to Black Star Dancing started growing on me but to me it's one of these weaker tracks like In The Heat of The Moment or She Taught Me To Fly. Rattling Rose is pretty good but I still LOVE Sail On. Given I hate remixes, the 12" version of BSD and its remix do nothing for me. Pfffttt She Taught Me How To Fly is one of the best on that record.
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Post by MONO on Jul 17, 2019 13:10:07 GMT -5
Justin Robertson's "Deadstock 33s Remix" is one of the best NGHFB tracks so far.
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Post by vespa on Jul 17, 2019 14:52:04 GMT -5
Weaker tracks ? In the heat of the moment is a tune and she taught me how to fly is possibly best track on that album , it’s all opinions but who built the moon was a strange record , it just lacked something and almost felt like Noel talked the critics and public into thinking it was way out there and to me it’s an average record with some good production, keep on reaching if sounded like the remix for instance would’ve been brilliant but the album version is boring .Some of the lyrics are poor aswell ...I think the new ep is brilliant , play BSD loud in a bar it sounds great and the other 2 tracks are classic noel
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Post by bt95 on Jul 18, 2019 6:02:17 GMT -5
Its a cop out for me to say he is just choosing not to write another classic oasis type song. If he still had the ability to, he would. It isnt even that different an approach to songwriting. If anything its just even more blatent stealing than in Oasis. Openly sat there listening to tracks just to rip off their bass lines or hooks. Who has said that? I don't think even Noel has claimed that. I'm sure if another Talk Tonight or DLBIA or even DITW 'fell from the sky' as he likes to say, I'm sure he'd put it out there. It's just personal taste. I love Holy Mountain and think it's up there with the best stuff he's written. It's just euphoric. I love that like I love how It's Getting Better (Man!!) is such a euphoric song, or Some Might Say and Step Out etc. There's also nothing wrong with how he's doing it now and if people like it or not is again down to taste.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 18, 2019 6:09:08 GMT -5
Weaker tracks ? In the heat of the moment is a tune and she taught me how to fly is possibly best track on that album , it’s all opinions but who built the moon was a strange record , it just lacked something and almost felt like Noel talked the critics and public into thinking it was way out there and to me it’s an average record with some good production, keep on reaching if sounded like the remix for instance would’ve been brilliant but the album version is boring .Some of the lyrics are poor aswell ...I think the new ep is brilliant , play BSD loud in a bar it sounds great and the other 2 tracks are classic noel Agree largely with this. I don't think WBTM is average but I do think Noel built it up (I think on purpose to kind of test the fanbase in a way - to differing results) as something it wasn't in terms of the finished product. It wasn't that different or out there, but the approach was (for Noel). It definitely did lack 'something' (personally I think that is another song), but atm as an album it still works really well and Holy Mountain, STMHTF, TMWBTM and Keep On Reaching are all songs I love. IABW loses some momentum towards the end but the first half is great. BSD is just funky as hell. I went off it but since hearing the live version it's really grown on me again. I don't think it's among his best ever output but I'd certainly put it up in the second tier of his solo stuff. Like you say, it's one of those songs that fits certain situations really well and I've heard it twice in places I wouldn't expect and it still worked. The only 'horrid' reaction to the EP has been from a few people on Twitter and if any artist (Noel, Liam or whoever) starts taking directions from Twitter then they might as well pack it in. Hate this thing of fans' having such self-entitlement (in music, sport (football especially), pretty much anything tbh). It's probably nothing new, but there's now simply loads of places for their opinions to be heard. It's great that everyone can put their opinions out there, and on a forum we can speak about them and usually have decent discussion. But at the same time, an artist can only try and please themselves. FWIW, I believe Noel has always only ever done what he pleased. I'm not saying he was shackled by Oasis or whatever.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 18, 2019 6:10:31 GMT -5
This. I can't stand Who Built The Moon. I loved the 3 new songs on the first EP. Felt like THIS is what WBTM should've been. And I'm the exact opposite. I loved WBTM, but can't stand any of the songs on the new EP. And that's fine. Great thing is we've got another two to come and hopefully there'll be a bit of something for everyone.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 18, 2019 8:23:38 GMT -5
Its a cop out for me to say he is just choosing not to write another classic oasis type song. If he still had the ability to, he would. It isnt even that different an approach to songwriting. If anything its just even more blatent stealing than in Oasis. Openly sat there listening to tracks just to rip off their bass lines or hooks. Who has said that? I don't think even Noel has claimed that. I'm sure if another Talk Tonight or DLBIA or even DITW 'fell from the sky' as he likes to say, I'm sure he'd put it out there. It's just personal taste. I love Holy Mountain and think it's up there with the best stuff he's written. It's just euphoric. I love that like I love how It's Getting Better (Man!!) is such a euphoric song, or Some Might Say and Step Out etc. There's also nothing wrong with how he's doing it now and if people like it or not is again down to taste. Hes said that he isnt writing songs like that anymore. The stuff about falling from the sky makes me cringe. Hes openly admitted hes sat there trying to rip songs off from CDs. Yeah really gonna just drop out the sky aint it. Its fucking dropped out of an mp3 rip. Ive always actually been of the opinion that it was incredibly difficult for Noel in Oasis because he was having to write anthems and he usually come up with the goods. It was laid bare, the melody had to be there and no gimmicks. Other artists get away with shit he couldn't by adding the sort of gimmicks he adds now. For instance take away the "new" sounds from Careful What You Wish For and you have a lame come together rip off with no chorus. Nothing new about how he writes now. Hes just added a few different sounds to cover up how bad the songs are.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 18, 2019 8:34:39 GMT -5
The stuff about falling from the sky makes me cringe. . Have you ever written a song ? It happens you know, and they're usually the best ones...
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Post by aesthetic on Jul 18, 2019 8:45:15 GMT -5
I bet John and Paul never had this problem. John and Paul never had internet forums. Holy christ do I literally have to start putting "THIS POST MAY CONTAIN IRONY" after these posts. Come on guys, meet me halfway here.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 18, 2019 8:53:02 GMT -5
Its a cop out for me to say he is just choosing not to write another classic oasis type song. If he still had the ability to, he would. It isnt even that different an approach to songwriting. If anything its just even more blatent stealing than in Oasis. Openly sat there listening to tracks just to rip off their bass lines or hooks. Who has said that? I don't think even Noel has claimed that. I'm sure if another Talk Tonight or DLBIA or even DITW 'fell from the sky' as he likes to say, I'm sure he'd put it out there. It's just personal taste. I love Holy Mountain and think it's up there with the best stuff he's written. It's just euphoric. I love that like I love how It's Getting Better (Man!!) is such a euphoric song, or Some Might Say and Step Out etc. There's also nothing wrong with how he's doing it now and if people like it or not is again down to taste. More on here preferred Bring The Light than Holy Mountain
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Post by andymorris on Jul 18, 2019 8:54:03 GMT -5
Have you ever written a song ? It happens you know, and they're usually the best ones... Yeah I've just written one now Its called fuck you asshole you're such a delight. Also, Come Together borrows from You Can't Catch Me by Chuck Berry, so your argument is kinda shit.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 18, 2019 8:57:42 GMT -5
Yeah I've just written one now Its called fuck you asshole you're such a delight. Also, Come Together borrows from You Can't Catch Me by Chuck Berry, so your argument is kinda shit. So because the song hes ripping is ripped from another song its irrelevant? Your logic is kinda shit. Noel isnt doing anything different apart from polishing turds. Like Liam said when you strip back everything youre left with pretty shit songs.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 18, 2019 9:02:53 GMT -5
Some languages in above few posts.
If you like the EP, enjoy. If you don't like it, don't listen. Cheers guys.
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