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Post by glio on Nov 24, 2017 14:20:29 GMT -5
AYW is just so much better. Unfortunately im really really unimpressed with WBTM
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Nov 24, 2017 14:48:46 GMT -5
I've only heard WBTM? once now, so it's way too early for me to vote. But my initial thoughts:
Liam had a much, much better album than I was expecting. First four out of five tracks on it were songs that I genuinely wanted to hear over and over. And when I heard Holy Mountain and thought it was worse than anything from AYW including the bonus tracks (and I still do) the silver lining was the hope that AYW would end up comparable to or better than WBTM?. Then it would be an even fight going into the next cycle however many years away. So I wasn't rooting for Noel to suck, but I was rooting for Liam.
Then I heard Fort Knox and the live STMHTF, and thought Liam still had a chance. Beautiful World kind of tipped the scales over to Noel.
Now that I've heard all of WBTM?, eh, what I hadn't heard before may or may not be special. I have to listen to it a few more times. But BCWYWF is intriguing and catchy as hell and I really liked End Credits. I'm pretty sure the hand raise goes to Noel this time.
But they're both superb albums. Neither one is anything for them to be ashamed of.
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Post by downer on Nov 24, 2017 17:39:47 GMT -5
as you were, anytime. even just 1 song from as you were, than the whole moon record :-)
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 24, 2017 18:08:45 GMT -5
I've only listened to Who Built The Moon once, so my opinion may change, but my gut instinct is As You Were.
I'm shocked at that personally, I love Liam but I expected WBTM to wipe the floor with AYW, but it really doesn't. There's a couple of really good songs on it but otherwise I think it's mainly an album of poor songs masked by great production.
I think Noel has perhaps gotten too carried away with creating something different and lost track of what's important - the quality of the songs.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 24, 2017 18:17:39 GMT -5
Who Built The Moon? craps all over As You Were for me.
WBTM sonically sounds so much better as a production and gives you a true album experience.
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2017 18:38:44 GMT -5
Who Built The Moon, as I always expected. The last third of As You Were I start to lose attention.
Who Built The Moon however is throwing curve balls at you all the time. Very eclectic, a lot more diverse and less derivative. Much more of a visual, imaginative and immersive experience.
And then he chucks out Dead In The Water to remind Adele's songwriter that there really is no competition at all. As any Oasis fan should know obviously.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 24, 2017 18:49:12 GMT -5
Who Built The Moon, as I always expected. The last third of As You Were I start to lose attention. Who Built The Moon however is throwing curve balls at you all the time. Very eclectic, a lot more diverse and less derivative. Much more of a visual, imaginative and immersive experience. And then he chucks out Dead In The Water to remind Adele's songwriter that there really is no competition at all. As any Oasis fan should know obviously.I beg your f-ing pardon |
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2017 18:55:32 GMT -5
Who Built The Moon, as I always expected. The last third of As You Were I start to lose attention. Who Built The Moon however is throwing curve balls at you all the time. Very eclectic, a lot more diverse and less derivative. Much more of a visual, imaginative and immersive experience. And then he chucks out Dead In The Water to remind Adele's songwriter that there really is no competition at all. As any Oasis fan should know obviously.I beg your f-ing pardon Come on, Greg Kurstin's contributions may be the best on As You Were but, well, he's no Noel Gallagher is he? |
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Post by MacaRonic on Nov 24, 2017 18:57:45 GMT -5
I'm just so glad we've had two new Gallagher albums that are both great in their own way. And in such a short space of time as well. It's not a competition for me.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 24, 2017 19:01:46 GMT -5
Come on, Greg Kurstin's contributions may be the best on As You Were but, well, he's no Noel Gallagher is he? The result of the poll tells you Liam and Adele's songwriter won this round within some of the most loyal Oasis fans in the World. Noel Gallagher is and will always be great but even Muhammad Ali lost a few bouts. No shame on losing this one for The Chief. |
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2017 19:16:20 GMT -5
Come on, Greg Kurstin's contributions may be the best on As You Were but, well, he's no Noel Gallagher is he? The result of the poll tells you Liam and Adele's songwriter won this round within some of the most loyal Oasis fans in the World. Noel Gallagher is and will always be great but even Muhammad Ali lost a few bouts. No shame on losing this one for The Chief. Well in fairness to Noel the more traditional sound is going to always win over the hardcore fanbase, as is the case with all acts who go for a different approach. Oasis fans are hardly known for their sense of adventure anyhow. Some fans are always going to be left behind - it happened with U2 and Achtung Baby and Radiohead and Kid A. Sold much less than their predecessors, but are far superior albums, and that will be the case with this Noel album. Some folk may want the home comforts of Liam, while others may want to go on a journey with Noel. Depends what you feel on any given day. But even taking songs in isolation, Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The Water still outshines anything from Liam's team. It's hard to compete with that kind of creative genius. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 24, 2017 19:21:30 GMT -5
The result of the poll tells you Liam and Adele's songwriter won this round within some of the most loyal Oasis fans in the World. Noel Gallagher is and will always be great but even Muhammad Ali lost a few bouts. No shame on losing this one for The Chief. Well in fairness to Noel the more traditional sound is going to always win over the hardcore fanbase, as is the case with all acts who go for a different approach. Oasis fans are hardly known for their sense of adventure anyhow. Some fans are always going to be left behind - it happened with U2 and Achtung Baby and Radiohead and Kid A. Some folk may want the home comforts of Liam, while others may want to go on a journey with Noel. Depends what you feel on any given day. But even taking songs in isolation, Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The Water still outshines anything from Liam's team. It's hard to compete with that kind of creative genius. All true but it’s not all about “home comforts” v “going on a journey”. It’s also about “good” v “bad” music. And Noel’s is good. And Liam’s is good! So... As You Were v Who Built The Moon is like.. do I prefer a really good steak & chips or some great sushi. Both are bloody lovely but depends how you feel! That’s the magic of 2017 for Oasis fans... |
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Nov 24, 2017 19:24:10 GMT -5
Happy for both brothers. They really are great musicians and it shows now, more than 20 years after the explossion. It's a good time to be a fan of both.
That said, I like Liam's album but Noel is another league IMO.
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2017 19:25:38 GMT -5
Well in fairness to Noel the more traditional sound is going to always win over the hardcore fanbase, as is the case with all acts who go for a different approach. Oasis fans are hardly known for their sense of adventure anyhow. Some fans are always going to be left behind - it happened with U2 and Achtung Baby and Radiohead and Kid A. Some folk may want the home comforts of Liam, while others may want to go on a journey with Noel. Depends what you feel on any given day. But even taking songs in isolation, Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The Water still outshines anything from Liam's team. It's hard to compete with that kind of creative genius. All true but it’s not all about “home comforts” v “going on a journey”. It’s also about “good” v “bad” music. And Noel’s is good. And Liam’s is good! So... As You Were v Who Built The Moon is like.. do I prefer a really good steak & chips or some great sushi. Both are bloody lovely but depends how you feel! That’s the magic of 2017 for Oasis fans... Nothing wrong with 'home comforts', what would we be without home! It's just a preference for what may be safe but is tried and tested. For sure, we all need that, but it would have been immensely boring if Noel had done the same and repeated his last couple of albums. The fact is we get a vastly different choice with both brothers. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 24, 2017 19:31:00 GMT -5
All true but it’s not all about “home comforts” v “going on a journey”. It’s also about “good” v “bad” music. And Noel’s is good. And Liam’s is good! So... As You Were v Who Built The Moon is like.. do I prefer a really good steak & chips or some great sushi. Both are bloody lovely but depends how you feel! That’s the magic of 2017 for Oasis fans... Nothing wrong with 'home comforts', what would we be without home! It's just a preference for what may be safe but is tried and tested. For sure, we all need that, but it would have been immensely boring if Noel had done the same and repeated his last couple of albums. The fact is we get a vastly different choice with both brothers. Agreed!! |
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Post by rollagher on Nov 25, 2017 2:56:28 GMT -5
Finally got the vinyl of WBTM and after three listen I have to say: AYW is better! Am I a parka monkey now? Let's get into detail: First side WBTM: I'd like to skip every track only 'Keep on reachin' is fun from beginning to end. First side AYW: After 1 month I won't want to skip one track. Enjoy all of them still! Second/dark side WBTM: Much better! Only BCWYWF is too long for me, the rest is really good! Second side AYW: A little bit less interesting then the first, but still listening is a lot of fun. So in summary, AYW stand the test of time for me, and if it was a Oasis record I think I would rank it on # 3 (behind DM and WTSMG). It's sad that Noel thinks that every fan who don't get his (or Holmes) "new" style is dumb  ! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 25, 2017 3:24:29 GMT -5
How can you even say an album will or won't stand the test of time if one of them came out only a month ago and the other one came out yesterday?
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Post by jason77 on Nov 25, 2017 3:32:17 GMT -5
Love both but I think long term Who built the moon will be played by me more lot more interesting.as you were and who built the moon would be at #3 and #4 behind Dm and Wtsmg on the best oasis/oasis related albums better than anything after be here now by a mile.
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Post by pedroz on Nov 25, 2017 3:32:46 GMT -5
No contest for me. WBTM is miles ahead of AYW. I do think AYW is decent with a couple of very good tracks ( All I Need and Universal Gleam) but there's an awful lot of forgettable stuff on there too.
If Noel had of went with the tried and tested middle of the road stuff he's put out in the last two albums it might be closer but thankfully he's thrown the shackles off and has written some of his best stuff in twenty years.
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Post by Stemot on Nov 25, 2017 3:41:33 GMT -5
After listening to WBTM most the night, there is only one song I'll be coming back to on here, which is the final bonus track. Ironically, with As You Were there is only one song I don't come back to and that is the final bonus track.
Nothing to me on WBTM is memorable except for Dead In The Water, which brings back strong memories of live version of Talk Tonight which is where Noel shines, acoustically with a guitar on his own pouring emotion into his performance.
This is the first Gallagher post Oasis release I won't be buying once, let alone twice as I usually do.
As You Were wins hands down for me.
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Post by supersonic1981 on Nov 25, 2017 4:28:46 GMT -5
WBTM for me, i do like AYW and for a first solo album, i dont think we can expect much more from Liam at this stage, but Noel's at a totally different stage in his solo career.
If Noel had released an 'Oasis sounding' album i'd have been dissapointed where as others would have loved it. I guess musical taste do alter or broaden as you get older and i'd rather have something a little different from Noel now as i'd expect something different from Liam when he gets to a third solo album.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 25, 2017 5:43:18 GMT -5
Who Built the Moon.
I streamed As You Were on the day of its release and got bored before it ended. It just seemed to go on for ever and I had no desire to revisit any of the songs on it. I don't think I will ever listen to it again.
WBTM will be getting many, many plays for years to come. Bring on the tour!
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Post by pedrobrasil on Nov 25, 2017 7:59:58 GMT -5
The result of the poll tells you Liam and Adele's songwriter won this round within some of the most loyal Oasis fans in the World. Noel Gallagher is and will always be great but even Muhammad Ali lost a few bouts. No shame on losing this one for The Chief. Well in fairness to Noel the more traditional sound is going to always win over the hardcore fanbase, as is the case with all acts who go for a different approach. Oasis fans are hardly known for their sense of adventure anyhow. Some fans are always going to be left behind - it happened with U2 and Achtung Baby and Radiohead and Kid A. Sold much less than their predecessors, but are far superior albums, and that will be the case with this Noel album. Some folk may want the home comforts of Liam, while others may want to go on a journey with Noel. Depends what you feel on any given day. But even taking songs in isolation, Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The Water still outshines anything from Liam's team. It's hard to compete with that kind of creative genius. I think you all Noel fans are ignoring the fact that Liam attracted a good amount of new fans with this new album.And you also ignores the fact that the album is winning the pool because the album is better not because Noel tried different things.Just accept and enjoy Noel's album. |
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Post by matt on Nov 25, 2017 8:36:00 GMT -5
Well in fairness to Noel the more traditional sound is going to always win over the hardcore fanbase, as is the case with all acts who go for a different approach. Oasis fans are hardly known for their sense of adventure anyhow. Some fans are always going to be left behind - it happened with U2 and Achtung Baby and Radiohead and Kid A. Sold much less than their predecessors, but are far superior albums, and that will be the case with this Noel album. Some folk may want the home comforts of Liam, while others may want to go on a journey with Noel. Depends what you feel on any given day. But even taking songs in isolation, Man Who Built The Moon and Dead In The Water still outshines anything from Liam's team. It's hard to compete with that kind of creative genius. I think you all Noel fans are ignoring the fact that Liam attracted a good amount of new fans with this new album.And you also ignores the fact that the album is winning the pool because the album is better not because Noel tried different things.Just accept and enjoy Noel's album. But it is better. And that’s MY opinion. No need for the Liam fanboys to get in a hissy fit about it. |
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Post by elchupacabra on Nov 25, 2017 8:47:23 GMT -5
Who Built the Moon for me.
I'm really happy that Liam has had such a big success but I got bored of As You Were pretty quickly and, apart from a few tracks, I have no urge to listen to it again.
On the other hand as soon as I finish Noels album I often find myself going right back to the start, I'm hoping this album is a sign of things to come from him.
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