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Post by Fade In-Out on Nov 21, 2017 19:09:37 GMT -5
I think the reason why conversation has been so civil after WBTM's release is, just lot Liam with As You Were, Noel released an album strong enough to silence when his harshest critics. I've also seen some people who were previously the most vocal about how weak Holy Mountain and It's a Beautiful World were falling head over heels in love with some of the songs we hadn't heard. Which is always good to see.  Thats exactly me, really hated HM and bad a bad feeling bout the rest, but the album is good overall so now I'm just happy i have two good gallagher albums. |
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Post by modxxii on Nov 22, 2017 5:25:52 GMT -5
Is it just me or does it sound like Noel is singing in a cave... I can barely hear his voice and when I do, It has an echo. Same here. His voice is so buried in WBTM. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 22, 2017 5:29:25 GMT -5
Overall Noel's album is better but As You Were has higher highs and lower lows See, I think the 'highs' on Noel's album are higher, personally. Both have their weak points, but I think in terms of an album I'm going to listen to again and again, I'd pick WBTM - I just think it works really well as one solid piece, which was probably the idea all along. AYW, I just get a bit - well, 'bored' is the wrong word - but I'm ready to change halfway through that album, whereas with WBTM I'm more than happy to listen all the way through to the end, and it still leaves me wanting a bit more. That's not to say there aren't some great moments on AYW, and as I've said previously, the songs I have gone back to most from that album are the ones Liam penned himself - Bold, Greedy Tune, You Better Run etc. |
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Post by chamu on Nov 22, 2017 6:09:52 GMT -5
As you Were is not a masterpiece but a great comeback for Liam. A pretty solid album overall. Great singing, great/very good songs. I can listen it form the start to finish everyday and i really enjoy it. For me, a great surprise and everything i´d expect for a Liam´s album
Who Built the Moon i find it very average, sorry. Outside this forum and Noel loyan fanbase it will be a forgettable album. I think not a single song will stand the test of time. Seriously, what song of WBTM you´d choose for a playlist of Noel´s entirely discography? If i´d to pick up a 30/35 list of Noel´s penned songs, i´d pick up some oasis tunes and some tunes of his previous solo albums but none of WBTM. Except, maybe Dead in the Water or TMWBTM.
I really enjoyed Chasing Yesterday and although i can´t stand with the production of NGHFB´s, there are some great great songs there. In WBTM there are two persons having fun in the studio, what it is totally respectable and praiseworthy, but a sadly unispired piece of work
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 22, 2017 6:13:09 GMT -5
As you Were is not a masterpiece but a great comeback for Liam. A pretty solid album overall. Great singing, great/very good songs. I can listen it form the start to finish everyday and i really enjoy it. For me, a great surprise and everything i´d expect for a Liam´s album Who Built the Moon i find it very average, sorry. Outside this forum and Noel loyan fanbase it will be a forgettable album. I think not a single song will stand the test of time. Seriously, what song of WBTM you´d choose for a playlist of Noel´s entirely discography? If i´d to pick up a 30/35 list of Noel´s penned songs, i´d pick up some oasis tunes and some tunes of his previous solo albums but none of WBTM. Except, maybe Dead in the Water or TMWBTM. I really enjoyed Chasing Yesterday and although i can´t stand with the production of NGHFB´s, there are some great great songs there. In WBTM there are two persons having fun in the studio, what it is totally respectable and praiseworthy, but a sadly unispired piece of work You can say the same for As You Were. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 22, 2017 6:23:05 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Chasing Yesterday and although i can´t stand with the production of NGHFB´s, there are some great great songs there. Well personally i think Chasing Yesterday is the worst album he's ever done, although there is a couple of good tunes. CY a collection of rushed songs put together that don't really fit. At the time, i said there was something wrong with the promotion of this record, that Noel was not feeling it. And now we know why : because he hoped to release something like WBTM instead. CY was a safety net and it shows. But on the other hand i really rate the first NGHFB record, i think it's unfairly criticized. It's very cohesive (unlike CY), has some amazing tunes and the fillers are also pretty good. Leave Stop the Clocks out, in Let the Lord instead and close with Stranded on the Wrong Beach and it's a pretty good record. WBTM relies on other feelings though. It's not as melodic (although after a few more listens, the tune are revealing themselves) and much more rhythm and hooks based. It's a different kind of music. |
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Post by chamu on Nov 22, 2017 6:24:17 GMT -5
As you Were is not a masterpiece but a great comeback for Liam. A pretty solid album overall. Great singing, great/very good songs. I can listen it form the start to finish everyday and i really enjoy it. For me, a great surprise and everything i´d expect for a Liam´s album Who Built the Moon i find it very average, sorry. Outside this forum and Noel loyan fanbase it will be a forgettable album. I think not a single song will stand the test of time. Seriously, what song of WBTM you´d choose for a playlist of Noel´s entirely discography? If i´d to pick up a 30/35 list of Noel´s penned songs, i´d pick up some oasis tunes and some tunes of his previous solo albums but none of WBTM. Except, maybe Dead in the Water or TMWBTM. I really enjoyed Chasing Yesterday and although i can´t stand with the production of NGHFB´s, there are some great great songs there. In WBTM there are two persons having fun in the studio, what it is totally respectable and praiseworthy, but a sadly unispired piece of work You can say the same for As You Were. Say what? i´m not trying to start a discussion here. As you were it has been a total relevant album in the UK scene right now in 2017. And that´s not an opinion is a fact. An for me is a great album. I can´t say any of this two things about WBTM Equally first Noel album was totally relevant in Uk scene in 2011. |
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 22, 2017 6:25:43 GMT -5
You can say the same for As You Were. Say what? i´m not trying to start a discussion here. As you were it has been a total relevant album in the UK scene right now in 2017. And that´s not an opinion is a fact. An for me is a great album. I can´t say any of this two things about WBTM Equally first Noel album was totally relevant in Uk scene in 2011. Check back next week |
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Post by chamu on Nov 22, 2017 6:34:32 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Chasing Yesterday and although i can´t stand with the production of NGHFB´s, there are some great great songs there. Well personally i think Chasing Yesterday is the worst album he's ever done, although there is a couple of good tunes. CY a collection of rushed songs put together that don't really fit. At the time, i said there was something wrong with the promotion of this record, that Noel was not feeling it. And now we know why : because he hoped to release something like WBTM instead. CY was a safety net and it shows. But on the other hand i really rate the first NGHFB record, i think it's unfairly criticized. It's very cohesive (unlike CY), has some amazing tunes and the fillers are also pretty good. Leave Stop the Clocks out, in Let the Lord instead and close with Stranded on the Wrong Beach and it's a pretty good record. WBTM relies on other feelings though. It's not as melodic (although after a few more listens, the tune are revealing themselves) and much more rhythm and hooks based. It's a different kind of music. Yes, his first album is probably his best collection of songs of this century. But i can´t stand with its production. I find it really annoying. But sure, it´s a pretty good record. I don´t think CY is his worst record. It has great song on it. BOTMI, Riverman, TRS, TDOTL...but, yes, probably you´re right about that the record as a whole doesn´t fit very well. But i don´t think is a safety net. There are some songs totally unexpected for Noel three years ago. Even, for me, TRS is an older and better brother of Be careful what you wish for and BOTMI is al older and better brother Of It´s a beautiful world. Really, i can´t find a great or memorable song on WBTM. It´s just my opinion and i really appreciatte someone of you enjoy it |
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Post by chamu on Nov 22, 2017 6:44:17 GMT -5
Say what? i´m not trying to start a discussion here. As you were it has been a total relevant album in the UK scene right now in 2017. And that´s not an opinion is a fact. An for me is a great album. I can´t say any of this two things about WBTM Equally first Noel album was totally relevant in Uk scene in 2011. Check back next week I´m not talking about musical tastes because it´s very subjetive. But Noel first album was a very relevant album in 2011. CY not so much. And i think WBTM will be a totally forgettable album in UK. I´ll check back next week, of course. I can say now that WBTM will be number 1, that´s for sure. But it will fade away week after week. . I could be totally wrong, of course, but it is what i can really feel. And i´m not a Noel´s hater. Oasis, Noel&Liam are one of my musical heroes. And i am the first one being dissapointed for not liking this album |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 22, 2017 6:44:59 GMT -5
Well personally i think Chasing Yesterday is the worst album he's ever done, although there is a couple of good tunes. CY a collection of rushed songs put together that don't really fit. At the time, i said there was something wrong with the promotion of this record, that Noel was not feeling it. And now we know why : because he hoped to release something like WBTM instead. CY was a safety net and it shows. But on the other hand i really rate the first NGHFB record, i think it's unfairly criticized. It's very cohesive (unlike CY), has some amazing tunes and the fillers are also pretty good. Leave Stop the Clocks out, in Let the Lord instead and close with Stranded on the Wrong Beach and it's a pretty good record. WBTM relies on other feelings though. It's not as melodic (although after a few more listens, the tune are revealing themselves) and much more rhythm and hooks based. It's a different kind of music. Yes, his first album is probably his best collection of songs of this century. But i can´t stand with its production. I find it really annoying. But sure, it´s a pretty good record. I don´t think CY is his worst record. It has great song on it. BOTMI, Riverman, TRS, TDOTL...but, yes, probably you´re right about that the record as a whole doesn´t fit very well. But i don´t think is a safety net. There are some songs totally unexpected for Noel three years ago. Even, for me, TRS is an older and better brother of Be careful what you wish for and BOTMI is al older and better brother Of It´s a beautiful world. Really, i can´t find a great or memorable song on WBTM. It´s just my opinion and i really appreciatte someone of you enjoy it Maybe give it time ? It's only been "out" one day. To me, songs like Love is the Law or Be Careful What You Wish For are just starting to click, really. The difference i see with WBTM is that it borrows from the past but doesn't fall into a pastiche like CY was in most parts. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 22, 2017 6:50:14 GMT -5
¿Has As You Were leaked yet?
Godzilla bless.
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Post by chamu on Nov 22, 2017 6:51:34 GMT -5
Yes, his first album is probably his best collection of songs of this century. But i can´t stand with its production. I find it really annoying. But sure, it´s a pretty good record. I don´t think CY is his worst record. It has great song on it. BOTMI, Riverman, TRS, TDOTL...but, yes, probably you´re right about that the record as a whole doesn´t fit very well. But i don´t think is a safety net. There are some songs totally unexpected for Noel three years ago. Even, for me, TRS is an older and better brother of Be careful what you wish for and BOTMI is al older and better brother Of It´s a beautiful world. Really, i can´t find a great or memorable song on WBTM. It´s just my opinion and i really appreciatte someone of you enjoy it Maybe give it time ? It's only been "out" one day. To me, songs like Love is the Law or Be Careful What You Wish For are just starting to click, really. The difference i see with WBTM is that it borrows from the past but doesn't fall into a pastiche like CY was in most parts. I´ll give it a few listens, of course! And i´ll rewrite my thoughts if it finally clicks on me  |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Nov 22, 2017 6:55:23 GMT -5
As You Were - 8/10
Who Built The Moon? - 5.5/10
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 22, 2017 7:58:44 GMT -5
As You Were - 8/10 Who Built The Moon? - 5.5/10  |
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Post by eva on Nov 22, 2017 8:06:32 GMT -5
As You Were - 8/10 Who Built The Moon? - 5.5/10 why is that funny? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 22, 2017 8:15:17 GMT -5
Because he doesnt agree and therefore it must be laughable, even though he hasnt heard one of the records. |
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Post by gdot on Nov 22, 2017 9:07:37 GMT -5
Because he doesnt agree and therefore it must be laughable, even though he hasnt heard one of the records. Pathetic, isn’t it. |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Nov 22, 2017 9:36:40 GMT -5
Because he doesnt agree and therefore it must be laughable, even though he hasnt heard one of the records. I've bought Japanese Edition,and heard whole album 5 times. The album didn't suit me. |
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Post by liamsparka on Nov 22, 2017 10:18:08 GMT -5
As you were 8/10
Who Built the Moon 6/10
Now that's me and my taste, I have given WBTM a days listening and it just does not spark anything...I listen AYW every day and it was very welcome this morning after WBTM
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Post by gazd1980 on Nov 22, 2017 11:21:06 GMT -5
As You Were - 8/10
Who Built The Moon - 6.5/10
Looking forward far more to Liam's gig than Noel's. Noel's been hanging around U2 too long.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 22, 2017 11:24:02 GMT -5
Why isn't there a poll? Off the PlayPen ye go.
Who Built the Moon, to answer yer question.
Holy Mountain is worth the admission alone.
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Post by liamw1984 on Nov 22, 2017 11:27:32 GMT -5
My As You Were/Who Built The Moon Mash Up
1. Wall Of Glass
2. Greedy Soul
3. She Taught Me How To Fly
4. For What It's Worth
5. Bold
6. Come Back to Me
7. Holy Mountain
8. Paper Crown
9. If Love Is The Law
10. The Man Who Built The Moon
11. I've All I Need
As You Where 8.5/10
Who Built The Moon 7.5/10
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Post by thestylecouncil on Nov 22, 2017 12:01:25 GMT -5
You can say the same for As You Were. Say what? i´m not trying to start a discussion here. As you were it has been a total relevant album in the UK scene right now in 2017. And that´s not an opinion is a fact. An for me is a great album. I can´t say any of this two things about WBTM Equally first Noel album was totally relevant in Uk scene in 2011. I totally agree with you! 2017 is totally Liam's year with As You Were being a pretty big and relevant album in the UK. Noel's album will go to #1 as well and he might even benefit from Liam's popularity and hype, but I don't see WBTM being as relevant as AYW either. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 22, 2017 18:06:49 GMT -5
One album has been out for a month and a half, the other was leaked like 15 hours ago. It's disingenious to make that comparison. A month and a half is more than enough time for the hype to die down and reevaluate your original opinion. Disagree - I can list tons of albums I really liked for a few months before cooling down on them. The more important part for me, when comparing albums, is the relative freshness of the music. Sure, one and a half months isn't completely new, but when you compare AYW to HFB or CY which are several years old it still benefits massively from being more recent. |
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