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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2017 14:39:50 GMT -5
Numbers are pretty good system to use too, though, where five is the direct midpoint...it's so strange seeing people say "not feeling this" and then giving it it 6. I honestly do it by school grades. If I got 5/10 on something, it was bad. 8 was good enough for me though haha. It also makes my system a bit tougher. An 8 is great whereas 6.5 is below standard in this case, but for others a jump of 1.5/10 may represent very little. I really don't get why people do that. Seems to me pretty obvious that 1-4 is shades of bad, 5 is neither bad nor good, and 6-10 is shades of good. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 21, 2017 14:40:04 GMT -5
To confirm - those who wanted to like Noels more, do. Those who wanted to like Liams more, do. Fucking bunch of predictable vaginas To me that’s not quite right; I want Liam to make music like As You Were... to be as close to Oasis as possible... and I’m delighted if Noel does other stuff... if that makes sense? It was said tongue in cheek but as any opinion on here that goes against Noel, the usual shit goes down. |
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Post by revol on Nov 21, 2017 14:45:40 GMT -5
Do you ever consider that people might have just have different taste in music when forming these "I could tell who would love/hate it anyway" posts? I could probably tell you who was gonna like WBTM on here too, because I know their tastes. It's not some weird conspiracy, it's just people liking different types of music. Its just boring the way its put across. Especially people who try and justify why others like AYW. Like oh AYW is liked by moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music etc. I dare you to find 1 (ONE!) post here by any member that claims AYW is liked by 'moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music'. It's all in your head, I'm afraid, because it was a surprisingly civil day Today. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 21, 2017 14:48:26 GMT -5
Reading the posts so far, I think this is one of the more civil album releases. The board has been pretty mellow over the last few hours.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 21, 2017 14:48:57 GMT -5
Its just boring the way its put across. Especially people who try and justify why others like AYW. Like oh AYW is liked by moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music etc. I dare you to find 1 (ONE!) post here by any member that claims AYW is liked by 'moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music'. It's all in your head, I'm afraid, because it was a surprisingly civil day Today. That isnt an exact quote. Nor did i claim it to be. I'm not Boris Johnson. It's very obvious that taht sort of labelling goes on. I didnt mean to start anything. Im really liking Noels album. Peace and love man |
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 21, 2017 14:51:18 GMT -5
Reading the posts so far, I think this is one of the more civil album releases. The board has been pretty mellow over the last few hours. We’re now talking about a strong 2017 album on both sides... balance to the force perhaps means it’s more civil! I ruddy hope so anyway... |
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Post by The Chief on Nov 21, 2017 14:55:14 GMT -5
I don't think you can compare the two really. It would be like comparing Definitely Maybe to In Utero back in the day. They're just too different.
Liam's rock and roll belters with his classic voice and Noel's impressive musical talent that seems to enable him to make amazing songs no matter the style.
I don't know how WBTM will stand in the long run but I have to admit that I got a bit bored of "As You Were" after a week of listening to it. I'll certainly put it on again but I'm no and haven't listened to it in weeks but I haven't skipped a song when it would come up on shuffle.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 14:55:31 GMT -5
Reading the posts so far, I think this is one of the more civil album releases. The board has been pretty mellow over the last few hours. We’re now talking about a strong 2017 album on both sides... balance to the force perhaps means it’s more civil! I ruddy hope so anyway... I'd sum it up as such, in my opinion of course... The high moments on WBTM, for me, trump the high moments on AYW. But, there are great moments on both albums and obvious weak points as well. I do think people got carried away with AYW, yet some seem to be actively looking for reasons not to like WBTM... Anyway, overall as you say, we've got two really strong albums. Liam is doing great. Noel is on a bit of a different path. All is well. |
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Post by revol on Nov 21, 2017 14:57:07 GMT -5
I dare you to find 1 (ONE!) post here by any member that claims AYW is liked by 'moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music'. It's all in your head, I'm afraid, because it was a surprisingly civil day Today. That isnt an exact quote. Nor did i claim it to be. I'm not Boris Johnson. It's very obvious that taht sort of labelling goes on. I didnt mean to start anything. Im really liking Noels album. Peace and love man As I did say, it's a pretty civil day and I think people are just enjoying the release. Obviously, some occasional AYW vs WBTM comparisons appear, but it's just signum temporis. |
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Post by kris123 on Nov 21, 2017 14:58:35 GMT -5
at the moment as you were but to be fair wbtm is not an immediate record, it's requires multiple listens
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 21, 2017 14:59:43 GMT -5
That isnt an exact quote. Nor did i claim it to be. I'm not Boris Johnson. It's very obvious that taht sort of labelling goes on. I didnt mean to start anything. Im really liking Noels album. Peace and love man As I did say, it's a pretty civil day and I think people are just enjoying the release. Obviously, some occasional AYW vs WBTM comparisons appear, but it's just signum temporis. Its a forum mate, not a fucking peace treaty for Northen Ireland. Im not gonna cause a war. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 15:03:35 GMT -5
I don't think you can compare the two really. It would be like comparing Definitely Maybe to In Utero back in the day. They're just too different. Liam's rock and roll belters with his classic voice and Noel's impressive musical talent that seems to enable him to make amazing songs no matter the style. I don't know how WBTM will stand in the long run but I have to admit that I got a bit bored of "As You Were" after a week of listening to it. I'll certainly put it on again but I'm no and haven't listened to it in weeks but I haven't skipped a song when it would come up on shuffle.Same mate. TBH, the songs I've mainly gone back to are the ones that Liam wrote himself, and 'Doesn't Have To Be That Way' Those are the ones I enjoyed most. You Better Run Bold Greedy Soul |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 21, 2017 15:04:40 GMT -5
I honestly do it by school grades. If I got 5/10 on something, it was bad. 8 was good enough for me though haha. It also makes my system a bit tougher. An 8 is great whereas 6.5 is below standard in this case, but for others a jump of 1.5/10 may represent very little. I really don't get why people do that. Seems to me pretty obvious that 1-4 is shades of bad, 5 is neither bad nor good, and 6-10 is shades of good. I view it as 1-4 meaning "bad music" in general, like the kind of stuff I wouldn't ever listen without being forced to. A Gallagher song can be pretty shit and still preferable to something I'd rate 1/10, especially since the bad ones are usually not actively annoying but just bland or boring. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 21, 2017 15:08:46 GMT -5
Do you ever consider that people might have just have different taste in music when forming these "I could tell who would love/hate it anyway" posts? I could probably tell you who was gonna like WBTM on here too, because I know their tastes. It's not some weird conspiracy, it's just people liking different types of music. Its just boring the way its put across. Especially people who try and justify why others like AYW. Like oh AYW is liked by moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music etc. Yeah and I've read people saying we just like Noel's record because we want to, so what? It'll always work like this in the Oasis fandom, but the real point is that Liam and Noel on their own both have a distinctive style, it's no crime if someone prefers one over the other and consequently it's not weird that those same people's opinion is somehow "predictable", especially considering both Gallaghers have put out good albums from an objective point of view |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 21, 2017 15:11:02 GMT -5
I think the reason why conversation has been so civil after WBTM's release is, just lot Liam with As You Were, Noel released an album strong enough to silence when his harshest critics. I've also seen some people who were previously the most vocal about how weak Holy Mountain and It's a Beautiful World were falling head over heels in love with some of the songs we hadn't heard. Which is always good to see.  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 21, 2017 15:11:52 GMT -5
I honestly do it by school grades. If I got 5/10 on something, it was bad. 8 was good enough for me though haha. It also makes my system a bit tougher. An 8 is great whereas 6.5 is below standard in this case, but for others a jump of 1.5/10 may represent very little. I really don't get why people do that. Seems to me pretty obvious that 1-4 is shades of bad, 5 is neither bad nor good, and 6-10 is shades of good. 1-4 is unlistenable, 5 is bad but somehow bearable, 6 is okay, 7 is good, 8-9 from pretty fucking good to great, 10 is Don't Look Back In Anger |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 21, 2017 15:23:09 GMT -5
Its just boring the way its put across. Especially people who try and justify why others like AYW. Like oh AYW is liked by moron parka monkeys who dont appreciate other music etc. Yeah and I've read people saying we just like Noel's record because we want to, so what? It'll always work like this in the Oasis fandom, but the real point is that Liam and Noel on their own both have a distinctive style, it's no crime if someone prefers one over the other and consequently it's not weird that those same people's opinion is somehow "predictable", especially considering both Gallaghers have put out good albums from an objective point of view I wouldnt disagree with anything youve said. |
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Post by dennizz on Nov 21, 2017 15:34:09 GMT -5
i couldn't ask for more, Liam is doing what he does best, singing great songs and Noel is trying to be different wich results in a pretty good album
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Post by pliolite on Nov 21, 2017 15:41:08 GMT -5
There are more songs on As You Were that will stand the test of time, but WBTM does have TMWBTM which probably will be respected for a while. Including bonus tracks for both records, Dead In The Water obviously is up there and It Doesn't Have to Be That Way and All My People... are, in many ways, better than tracks on the main record.
All in all, you can't actually put the albums up against each other, more like they are oceans apart. Liam's album is the more 'iconic' for sure. I rate it more highly as time goes on, tbh.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 21, 2017 15:52:13 GMT -5
We’re now talking about a strong 2017 album on both sides... balance to the force perhaps means it’s more civil! I ruddy hope so anyway... I'd sum it up as such, in my opinion of course... The high moments on WBTM, for me, trump the high moments on AYW. But, there are great moments on both albums and obvious weak points as well. I do think people got carried away with AYW, yet some seem to be actively looking for reasons not to like WBTM... Anyway, overall as you say, we've got two really strong albums. Liam is doing great. Noel is on a bit of a different path. All is well. Some people create accounts just to bash songs. I also don't believe for a second that some of the bashers even listened to it. Can't imagine them actively looking for a link and listen to the whole thing. |
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Nov 21, 2017 16:07:13 GMT -5
As You Were pretty comfortably for me although The Man Who Built The Moon might be the best song across the two albums.
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Post by riverman on Nov 21, 2017 18:09:02 GMT -5
I liked a lot WBTM, but I rather AYW in the end
(CY is better than two, together)
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Post by jxing on Nov 21, 2017 18:32:28 GMT -5
After a couple times of listening, I choose as you were. I'm enjoying a couple of Noel's but not as much as Liam's.
Maybe it's because I'm not a technical music person so it's hard for me to fully appreciate the technical aspects/achievements of the album. As well as my complaint from the beginning, about connecting with the lyrics... there's just not that much for me. Which is just weird to say since it's why I loved oasis tunes. And he Maybe it's because I'm not as joyful or in love as Noel.
Is it just me or does it sound like Noel is singing in a cave... I can barely hear his voice and when I do, It has an echo.
Im just very "meh" about it. Doesn't mean I'm a parka monkey or an "eagle" wanna be.. just not feeling it..maybe I'll feel different tomorrow.
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Post by A on Nov 21, 2017 18:39:05 GMT -5
As You Were is the best Gallagher related album since Be Here Now. (...) A lot of people on this forum are going apeshit over it at the moment, but they're an excitable bunch. One album has been out for a month and a half, the other was leaked like 15 hours ago. It's disingenious to make that comparison. A month and a half is more than enough time for the hype to die down and reevaluate your original opinion. |
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Nov 21, 2017 19:02:43 GMT -5
Overall Noel's album is better but As You Were has higher highs and lower lows
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