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Post by start at the end on Nov 17, 2017 11:57:41 GMT -5
little noisey, but a fantastic tune. 8.5. This one will last for me. Bit cleaner and it would be a nine.
French translation for those who don't speak the language (sorry if already posted)
Your attention please, ladies & gentlemen
Hold on tight & say farewell
Humanity is melting on both poles
Your attention please, ladies & gentlemen
Borders are closing
Breathe in, breathe out! Carbon monoxide
Relax & rest in peace, this is just the end of the world
Makes the song a bit better, those morbid lyrics!
3 ot of 4 think it's a 7 or better so that's prolly not a terrible sign.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 17, 2017 12:07:31 GMT -5
French translation for those who don't speak the language (sorry if already posted) Your attention please, ladies & gentlemen Hold on tight & say farewell Humanity is melting on both poles Your attention please, ladies & gentlemen Borders are closing Breathe in, breathe out! Carbon monoxide Relax & rest in peace, this is just the end of the world I've said this before, but that's fookin beautiful and it's going on my tombstone. Along with an engraved pair of scissors
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Post by thestylecouncil on Nov 17, 2017 12:29:34 GMT -5
After hearing the live version, I expected the song to sound much better on record, but unfortunately it doesn't. I think it starts really great, but after about 2 minutes it kinda plods along. The vocals don't do it for me either. Overall still a good song!
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Nov 17, 2017 12:41:53 GMT -5
My favorite so far that we've heard. I like the build and the chorus is stronger than the others'. Good vocal. 8.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 17, 2017 12:53:06 GMT -5
A solid 7, nice song and I really liked how it sounds, but I hated the french speak.
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Post by carlober on Nov 17, 2017 14:57:40 GMT -5
I was too much hyped yesterday. Have to skip the song after 3 minutes. 6/10 I really wonder how people would rate Holy Mountain if Beady Eye had released it / Andy wrote it with Gem. Sounds like a bad remix of Mucky Fingers 2/10. I've read stuff like this a million times already. It makes zero sense. What if Nickelback had written Bohemian Rhapsody?
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Post by matt on Nov 17, 2017 15:03:13 GMT -5
I was too much hyped yesterday. Have to skip the song after 3 minutes. 6/10 I really wonder how people would rate Holy Mountain if Beady Eye had released it / Andy wrote it with Gem. Sounds like a bad remix of Mucky Fingers 2/10. I've read stuff like this a million times already. It makes zero sense. What if Nickelback had written Bohemian Rhapsody? The banal and nonsensical nature of posts like that really do take some beating.
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 17, 2017 16:01:17 GMT -5
The more I listen to IABW the more I think it's absolutely brilliant. The production and pace is just top notch and so is the melody. It's stunning actually. Futuristic Noel Gallagher.
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Post by caughtbythefuzz on Nov 17, 2017 17:12:40 GMT -5
6
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 17, 2017 17:21:51 GMT -5
7/10. Fairly solid number, but not a patch on HM.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 17, 2017 17:49:16 GMT -5
I was too much hyped yesterday. Have to skip the song after 3 minutes. 6/10 I really wonder how people would rate Holy Mountain if Beady Eye had released it / Andy wrote it with Gem. Sounds like a bad remix of Mucky Fingers 2/10. I've read stuff like this a million times already. It makes zero sense. What if Nickelback had written Bohemian Rhapsody? They'd be a lot richer. I get why the hypotheticals get old, but there's something to be said for them. Had FWIW been played on the radio before anyone knew of Liam's comeback, and we'd been told Oasis were back together, people wouldhave absolutely accepted it as a Noel-penned song. "Sounds like it belongs on BHN!" "A spiritual successor to Stand By Me!" You know those sentences would have been uttered. It goes the other way, too. People shit on Noel's dance-y tracks, but praise It Doesn't Have To Be That Way, falsetto and all. Had they been released by the opposite brother, the respective camps would be rationalizing them away all the same. "Noel does Tame Impala on acid, genius again from the Chief!" "Liam's invoking Ricky martin, the cheeky c.unt. Love it!" It would have happened. The point is that songs don't really exist in a vacuum, much as we'd like to pretend otherwise in our purist flights of fancy.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Nov 17, 2017 18:00:56 GMT -5
a solid 6 out of 10 for me,nice sound to it but it dont really go nowhere
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Post by importantlyidle on Nov 17, 2017 18:01:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure I can rate this fairly tbh without having the rest of the album, I hated the Jools Holland version but that French bit on the studio version has fucked up what i'd say is a full reprieve from a 1 to a 7-8, it's not even the fact the scissors lady is talking that ruins it, just from that point onwards it dragged a bit for me. That's more Noel/Holmes fault because if they added something afterwards we could be talking about one of Noel's best moments (not songs)
Someone said it was like a shit Falling Down and though I wouldn't say it's shit something in that structure isn't right to me, i'm not like a lot of you on here that can whack a youtube cover on because you understand it or whatever so i just go by what my ears like and I just lose interest at a certain point, the beginning is really good
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 18:01:29 GMT -5
I gave it a 7. I really like this one so far.
I think the album is shaping up to be a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 18:03:25 GMT -5
People shit on Noel's dance-y tracks, but praise It Doesn't Have To Be That Way, falsetto and all. Had they been released by the opposite brother, the respective camps would be rationalizing them away all the same. Not with you on this, pal. Liam's voice is the difference.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 17, 2017 18:05:42 GMT -5
I've read stuff like this a million times already. It makes zero sense. What if Nickelback had written Bohemian Rhapsody? They'd be a lot richer. I get why the hypotheticals get old, but there's something to be said for them. Had FWIW been played on the radio before anyone knew of Liam's comeback, and we'd been told Oasis were back together, people wouldhave absolutely accepted it as a Noel-penned song. "Sounds like it belongs on BHN!" "A spiritual successor to Stand By Me!" You know those sentences would have been uttered.It goes the other way, too. People shit on Noel's dance-y tracks, but praise It Doesn't Have To Be That Way, falsetto and all. Had they been released by the opposite brother, the respective camps would be rationalizing them away all the same. "Noel does Tame Impala on acid, genius again from the Chief!" "Liam's invoking Ricky martin, the cheeky c.unt. Love it!" It would have happened. The point is that songs don't really exist in a vacuum, much as we'd like to pretend otherwise in our purist flights of fancy. Yes, but by people who are generally evading re-capture.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 18:07:31 GMT -5
the beginning is really good This is starting to become a theme. The songs start off interesting, but don't go anywhere.
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Post by mcnulty on Nov 17, 2017 18:27:07 GMT -5
So far:
Holy Mountain - 6 Fort Knox - 5 She Taught Me How To Fly - 7 Beautiful World - 5
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Post by thehyperbolist on Nov 17, 2017 18:37:52 GMT -5
I really like this one - it is another What a Life type song. Some say it goes nowhere, but I think that is exactly the point with these tunes.
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 17, 2017 18:55:18 GMT -5
I really like this one - it is another What a Life type song. Some say it goes nowhere, but I think that is exactly the point with these tunes. It's got subtleties and intricacies and incredible pacing that make it brilliant. It doesn't matter it doesn't "go anywhere", it's everything else that makes the song. For all of Noels plodding ballads and "FWIW" type of songs, this is a million miles from them.
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Post by matt on Nov 17, 2017 19:09:03 GMT -5
As poor as some of Noel’s songs got, more so in that they sounded so half arsed, he never wrote anything as syrupy sweet and maudlin as For What Its Worth. I really like Liam’s album but its the poorest on the album. Something that belongs with Beady Eye. Even Keane would go ‘but much that no?’. Reminds me of the overblown melodramatic song that Father Dick Byrne performs on the Eurovision episode of Father Ted.
Noel has always been on the right side of sentimentality. Never gone overboard, he’s always had a knack of just getting it right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 19:22:06 GMT -5
As poor as some of Noel’s songs got, more so in that they sounded so half arsed, he never wrote anything as syrupy sweet and maudlin as For What Its Worth. I really like Liam’s album but its the poorest on the album. Something that belongs with Beady Eye. Even Keane would go ‘but much that no?’. I'm not the biggest fan of FWIW, and it's nowhere close the Oasis classics obviously, but I don't think it's one of the worst songs on Liam album. First time I heard that song, I hated it and called it "The Beat Goes On" part II. But then, I heard a live version on Tarata, more stripped back and thought there was a little something there, nothing great but a decent song behind all the cheesiness of the studio version. The chorus melody is a bit borderline MOR though.
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Post by funhouse on Nov 18, 2017 2:10:27 GMT -5
This didn't do very much to me. It's got something I guess, but it's just so dull. Worst track of the four that we've heard so far. 3,5=4 in the poll.
And the French spoken word made me cringe so bad that I fell out of bed.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 18, 2017 2:37:48 GMT -5
As poor as some of Noel’s songs got, more so in that they sounded so half arsed, he never wrote anything as syrupy sweet and maudlin as For What Its Worth. I really like Liam’s album but its the poorest on the album. Something that belongs with Beady Eye. Even Keane would go ‘but much that no?’. I'm not the biggest fan of FWIW, and it's nowhere close the Oasis classics obviously, but I don't think it's one of the worst songs on Liam album. First time I heard that song, I hated it and called it "The Beat Goes On" part II. But then, I heard a live version on Tarata, more stripped back and thought there was a little something there, nothing great but a decent song behind all the cheesiness of the studio version. The chorus melody is a bit borderline MOR though. I don't think it's bad, but also not very good. It's kind of dull and very middle of the road. It's everything he accuses Noel to be: beige. That's why I find it a bit odd how people go "oh yeah he's so beige" and then Liam releases this and the same people go "oh yeah this is great." Must say that raised a few question marks in my head. I also think the whole myth of how people would have liked it had Noel written it is untrue, for me at least. For me it's simple: I either like a song or I don't. There are plenty of Noel written, but also Noel sung songs that I don't like.
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Post by MacaRonic on Nov 18, 2017 3:20:41 GMT -5
I gave 'Beautiful World' an 8/10. It's the best so far and will probably end up being the finest track on the album.
Great verses, bassline and lyrics. The instrumentation is great, the guitar licks and the Prodigy-esque drumming pattern is fantastic. I actually really like the french bit. It's just a pity about the chorus, which starts out great but goes nowhere with no hook apart from that wonderful bassline. Horrible mixing though.
Holy Mountain - 4/10 Fort Knox - 7/10
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