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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 28, 2017 2:26:56 GMT -5
I've heard some crap on this forum over the years but this is right up there. Open your mind... I’m not saying it sounds like Weller, I’m saying the spirit of songs like this are cheeseball attempts to look fresh and dabble in uber-coolness. Like your Dad in a new pair of this season’s H&M slim fit jeans. Dad rock for me. PS - I loved Holy Mountain. Glad you loved HM. You have good taste in music. But I wouldn't call FK dad rock. It's anything but. Stick on NG's first 2 albums now (which I did yesterday after listening to FK and HM) and they surprisingly sound a little dated, mellow and dad rock now, when comparing them to this new material. |
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Post by KhanMightSay on Oct 28, 2017 3:16:45 GMT -5
Ok FK being dad rock is the most hilarious thing I’ve heard!! 😂😂 It’s not rock for a start!!
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 28, 2017 3:19:43 GMT -5
I Fort Knoxed my house and entire neighborhood this morning. Felt good.
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Post by NY on Oct 28, 2017 5:56:31 GMT -5
Fu “cking yes.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Oct 28, 2017 6:15:38 GMT -5
This is undoubtedly the most psychedelic song Noel's ever released. Forget Who Feels Love and the Falling Down AA remix, this is an out-of-body experience.  Noel's idea of psychedelic music is more like Coldplay after their first spliff. If anyone thinks this is psychedelic and out there, i think they need to delve a bit more into the world of psychedelic music. This is fairly generic in comparison. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Oct 28, 2017 6:40:03 GMT -5
I thought dad-rock was just music that your average dad would listen to? Like, say, CSN(Y), Steely Dan, Eagles and so on.
Edit: Okay it does make sense to use it with pejorative implications as well. I'm also a big fan of the term "record collection rock" which someone used to slag off Ride's Carnival of Light IIRC.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 28, 2017 12:47:27 GMT -5
This is undoubtedly the most psychedelic song Noel's ever released. Forget Who Feels Love and the Falling Down AA remix, this is an out-of-body experience. Noel's idea of psychedelic music is more like Coldplay after their first spliff. If anyone thinks this is psychedelic and out there, i think they need to delve a bit more into the world of psychedelic music. This is fairly generic in comparison. I know what real psychedelic music sounds like. I'm a fan of everyone from Jimi Hendrix to Love to Spaceman 3 to Animal Collective. But psychedelic music has never been about whether you can draw a straight line between it and Jefferson Airplane. It's always been about creating sounds and textures that you've never heard before that take you to places you didn't know existed . By that definition, I wouldn't hesitate to call Paul's Boutique, Another Green World, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Aphex Twin, The Chemical Brothers, Talk Talk, and even latter-day Join Coltrane psychedelic. It's all about attitude rather than stylistic similarities. Fort Knox is Noel's biggest attempt at creating new sounds, even if it isn't quite as radical as he'd like to think it is, and that's why I call it his most psychedelic song. |
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Post by durk on Oct 28, 2017 16:59:06 GMT -5
This is totally crazy- but Fort Knox actually made me like Holy Mountain.
You could not find a bigger hater of HM.
Well may be on here.. but
I played drums to FN today- as well as I possibly could since that drum track is unreal-
Then led right into HM.
I could not believe I was actually playing it- and liking it!
Still cringe at the baby doll line...
But it worked!
Amazing.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 28, 2017 17:27:27 GMT -5
It's crazy how good Holy Mountains sounds right after this. Like, holy shit, at least eight times better. Does it? I’m still unsure of the drastic change of style and genre between the two. How is that transition gonna work? Currently seems abrupt. |
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 28, 2017 17:39:19 GMT -5
It's crazy how good Holy Mountains sounds right after this. Like, holy shit, at least eight times better. Does it? I’m still unsure of the drastic change of style and genre between the two. How is that transition gonna work? Currently seems abrupt. It kind of works and it kind of doesn't - I think we're gonna have to hear it in the context of the whole thing to really judge it. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 28, 2017 17:51:51 GMT -5
Does it? I’m still unsure of the drastic change of style and genre between the two. How is that transition gonna work? Currently seems abrupt. It kind of works and it kind of doesn't - I think we're gonna have to hear it in the context of the whole thing to really judge it. I mean there is a slight low hum/buzz of electric noise at the end of Fort Knox but it simply doesn’t link up and match the loudness on the intro feedback of Holy Mountain. It’s like a piece of music is missing to connect them. Problem is we know the track lengths so nothing is missing. Granted maybe the album has alternate versions on the proper LP but I doubt it since it has the exact same track times. Too good to be true. Weird stuff to kick off the album sonically. |
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Post by tatomoon on Oct 28, 2017 18:19:01 GMT -5
Better than Tomorrow Never knows for me.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 28, 2017 18:19:51 GMT -5
It kind of works and it kind of doesn't - I think we're gonna have to hear it in the context of the whole thing to really judge it. I mean there is a slight low hum/buzz of electric noise at the end of Fort Knox but it simply doesn’t link up and match the loudness on the intro feedback of Holy Mountain. It’s like a piece of music is missing to connect them. Problem is we know the track lengths so nothing is missing. Granted maybe the album has alternate versions on the proper LP but I doubt it since it has the exact same track times. Too good to be true. Weird stuff to kick off the album sonically. Spotify actually has Fort Knox listed 1 second longer than the album version  My guess is that "maybe" on these versions they upped the fades for the ending of Fort Knox and the beginning of Holy Mountain, seeing as they're singles and wouldn't need a cross fade. |
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 28, 2017 18:38:54 GMT -5
Listened to it while driving today, it sounds pretty good. I'm a fan of the alarm clock, its a nice feature. Good song, good opener. It seems a natural direction for the HFB to go.
HM has been giving me Bring the Light vibes lately. That's not to slate it, but it just has a similar retro catchy throwaway feel to it.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Oct 28, 2017 18:42:53 GMT -5
Noel's idea of psychedelic music is more like Coldplay after their first spliff. If anyone thinks this is psychedelic and out there, i think they need to delve a bit more into the world of psychedelic music. This is fairly generic in comparison. I know what real psychedelic music sounds like. I'm a fan of everyone from Jimi Hendrix to Love to Spaceman 3 to Animal Collective. But psychedelic music has never been about whether you can draw a straight line between it and Jefferson Airplane. It's always been about creating sounds and textures that you've never heard before that take you to places you didn't know existed . By that definition, I wouldn't hesitate to call Paul's Boutique, Another Green World, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Aphex Twin, The Chemical Brothers, Talk Talk, and even latter-day Join Coltrane psychedelic. It's all about attitude rather than stylistic similarities. Fort Knox is Noel's biggest attempt at creating new sounds, even if it isn't quite as radical as he'd like to think it is, and that's why I call it his most psychedelic song. Fair enough, i understand where you're coming. Anyway i do agree it's probably not as radical as Noel thinks it is in the grand scheme of things, that's not necessarily a bad thing though. His best attribute is the ability to craft a very well structured song and being quite conservative in his music in a way. It would be foolish to abandon it completely in favour of just experimenting. I'm sure he wouldn't anyway, he's a smart man. The point i was making really was that it really isn't that out there or experimental, but it is for Noel. In the world of different forms of psychedelic music, it's actually rather generic and safe, but as i say, i don't think that's bad. You still have to play to your strengths to a certain degree and Noel's strength is basically kind of middle of the road music, and i don't mean that disparagingly. There's nothing wrong with "middle of the road" if you do it as well as Noel has. |
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Post by durk on Oct 28, 2017 18:43:28 GMT -5
It's crazy how good Holy Mountains sounds right after this. Like, holy shit, at least eight times better. Does it? I’m still unsure of the drastic change of style and genre between the two. How is that transition gonna work? Currently seems abrupt. i know. i have no idea how it works- it's bizarre really. but it works for me. Noel is a genius... but his label should have rolled out FN first then HM. More people would have 'got it' that way imo. btw- FN totally kills at high volume in a room. The alarm just seems a cool pacer- buried in the mix. I barely noticed it while drumming. Cannot wait to hear the rest of this album now. I played AYW after- which i still love so much- and yet it seemed somewhat pedestrian after that. I kept thinking about Noel saying he had no interest in playing AYW because it had all been done before... |
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Post by Noeldemort on Oct 29, 2017 0:30:07 GMT -5
This album is shaping up to be fucking beautiful. I know right. Fort Know is fucking aesthetic. |
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Post by Derrick on Oct 29, 2017 14:25:43 GMT -5
Noel about the singer: "She started to do this afrobeat thing on it" Someone needs to play Noel some afrobeat before he embarrasses himself by repeating that in interviews. He obviously knows diddly about African music.  Sensitivity overload! No, he really hasn't got a clue when he mentions afrobeat. Here's some afrobeat: Ysée's vocals on "Fort knox" would never fit on an afrobeat song. It's like saying Slash played a psychedelic solo on "Sweet child o' mine". |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 14:33:26 GMT -5
Listened to it while driving today, it sounds pretty good. I'm a fan of the alarm clock, its a nice feature. Good song, good opener. It seems a natural direction for the HFB to go. HM has been giving me Bring the Light vibes lately. That's not to slate it, but it just has a similar retro catchy throwaway feel to it. "Baby come on !" |
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 29, 2017 14:50:53 GMT -5
No, he really hasn't got a clue when he mentions afrobeat. Here's some afrobeat: Ysée's vocals on "Fort knox" would never fit on an afrobeat song. It's like saying Slash played a psychedelic solo on "Sweet child o' mine". I think it's a bit of a waste of time to hang on every word Noel says and critique it. Doesn't really matter what he says anyways. He'll never see this, and he wasn't being derogatory when he said it |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 29, 2017 18:20:19 GMT -5
When i first heard it from someones Twitter, i thought theyd just repeated a 20 second teaser clip and looped it over and over again so i turned it off.
When you get past that first couple of minutes it does get more interesting.
I still think this would have been best as just an opener for the gigs thats released as a b-side though.
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Post by autumnshade on Oct 29, 2017 18:39:47 GMT -5
Fort Knox was a joy to hear after the hugely disappointing Holy Mountain. But whilst there's many things I love about this track, it does go on about a minute too long and is a tad repetitive. It reminds me a bit of Primal Scream's Kill All Hippies, which I have to say is a far superior tune.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 29, 2017 19:59:10 GMT -5
When i first heard it from someones Twitter, i thought theyd just repeated a 20 second teaser clip and looped it over and over again so i turned it off. When you get past that first couple of minutes it does get more interesting. I still think this would have been best as just an opener for the gigs thats released as a b-side though. Idk what it says when the producer of the album just assumed it wasn’t going on the album and then Noel makes its track 1. Polar opposites of opinions. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 29, 2017 20:02:53 GMT -5
When i first heard it from someones Twitter, i thought theyd just repeated a 20 second teaser clip and looped it over and over again so i turned it off. When you get past that first couple of minutes it does get more interesting. I still think this would have been best as just an opener for the gigs thats released as a b-side though. Idk what it says when the producer of the album just assumed it wasn’t going on the album and then Noel makes its track 1. Polar opposites of opinions. All i can tell you is if i was the producer id be saying, hey now over acquiesce? Digsys dinner over fade away? Magic fucking pie over stay young? Leave the tracklisting to me Chief. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 29, 2017 20:09:07 GMT -5
Idk what it says when the producer of the album just assumed it wasn’t going on the album and then Noel makes its track 1. Polar opposites of opinions. All i can tell you is if i was the producer id be saying, hey now over acquiesce? Digsys dinner over fade away? Magic fucking pie over stay young? Leave the tracklisting to me Chief. Actual convo............ Holmes: Do you think Holy Mountain will even make the album? Noel: Make the album? It’s gonna be the first single! |
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