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Post by Doc Lobster on Oct 12, 2017 12:22:51 GMT -5
Add me to the group of zero's. I have been a huge Oasis and Noel fan since 94 when I saw the at Hammer Jacks in Baltimore. Have seen Oasis 23 times and Noel twice. Have been waiting forever for Noel to get his new alblum out and there are very few songs I dislike by Noel. With that being said, I agree with others that Holy Mountain is the absolute worst single Noel has ever released. I'am almost embarrassed for him to of released this! Yes people want something different but it almost feels like Holy Mountain was made to release something different sacraficing all quality. I hope to God the entire alblum is not like this! I'm in a bit of a shock because this is the first time I have ever listened to a single by Noel and said to my self "this is complete and utter garbage. Sometimes supporting a singer or song writer is knowing when to give feedback and say "you f'd up" I would encourage everyone who gave this a high rating to consider if you are giving this single a high rating out of emotion? Because it is new? To show your devotion and support to Noel? Do not encourage this...this single is absolutely trash. It is cringe worthy! I have always thought that Noel for marketing reasons has always said "this is the best song I have ever written" and in this case he said it but know there is no way in hell he really believes it. If the rest of the alblum is like this, I would rather Noel cancel the release and go back to the drawing board and wait another life time for an alblum that actually is worthy for the name Noel Gallager on it. There is absolutely nothing to this song other than a bunch of noise, distorted vocals and crappy atremp for verse and chorus. I will say yes it is not a zero in the grand scheme of music but for Noel where most songs are a 9/10, zero does serve a purpose. A way to say "ah son you done f'd up" This single is trash and honestly even just by it being on the alblum even if the rest is good degrades the over all quality of every other song just by ever being made in the first place. Zero's you are my true hereo's! We don't accept garbage from the greatest singer and song writer of all time because we know what he is capable of. I can only imagine all the yes sir's around him who told him Holy Mountain is good. I stand by my zero rating and I'm so disgusted and let down by what I have heard in Holy Mountain that I finally broke down and made an account so I can vent my frustrations after being a fan since 94. Let me be clear, love Noel want to support him but can not accept garbage like Holy Mountain with out speaking up. Wait a minute... you've been a fan since 1994 and you get outraged now?! Where the hell were you between 2002-2009?? |
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Post by slideaway33 on Oct 12, 2017 12:23:49 GMT -5
Bar tender this mans next kool aid is on me! I'll have another Holy Mountain on the rocks please. The last time I tasted a drink this good was 1997. I can't help it...the only proper response to that is "as you were" |
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Post by slideaway33 on Oct 12, 2017 12:26:42 GMT -5
Add me to the group of zero's. I have been a huge Oasis and Noel fan since 94 when I saw the at Hammer Jacks in Baltimore. Have seen Oasis 23 times and Noel twice. Have been waiting forever for Noel to get his new alblum out and there are very few songs I dislike by Noel. With that being said, I agree with others that Holy Mountain is the absolute worst single Noel has ever released. I'am almost embarrassed for him to of released this! Yes people want something different but it almost feels like Holy Mountain was made to release something different sacraficing all quality. I hope to God the entire alblum is not like this! I'm in a bit of a shock because this is the first time I have ever listened to a single by Noel and said to my self "this is complete and utter garbage. Sometimes supporting a singer or song writer is knowing when to give feedback and say "you f'd up" I would encourage everyone who gave this a high rating to consider if you are giving this single a high rating out of emotion? Because it is new? To show your devotion and support to Noel? Do not encourage this...this single is absolutely trash. It is cringe worthy! I have always thought that Noel for marketing reasons has always said "this is the best song I have ever written" and in this case he said it but know there is no way in hell he really believes it. If the rest of the alblum is like this, I would rather Noel cancel the release and go back to the drawing board and wait another life time for an alblum that actually is worthy for the name Noel Gallager on it. There is absolutely nothing to this song other than a bunch of noise, distorted vocals and crappy atremp for verse and chorus. I will say yes it is not a zero in the grand scheme of music but for Noel where most songs are a 9/10, zero does serve a purpose. A way to say "ah son you done f'd up" This single is trash and honestly even just by it being on the alblum even if the rest is good degrades the over all quality of every other song just by ever being made in the first place. Zero's you are my true hereo's! We don't accept garbage from the greatest singer and song writer of all time because we know what he is capable of. I can only imagine all the yes sir's around him who told him Holy Mountain is good. I stand by my zero rating and I'm so disgusted and let down by what I have heard in Holy Mountain that I finally broke down and made an account so I can vent my frustrations after being a fan since 94. Let me be clear, love Noel want to support him but can not accept garbage like Holy Mountain with out speaking up. Wait a minute... you've been a fan since 1994 and you get outraged now?! Where the hell were you between 2002-2009?? Those times were a little rought but bareable...Holy Mountain however is a different kind of suck...Makes the worst songs from those time periods sound like Supersonic or Live Forever |
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 12, 2017 12:41:49 GMT -5
slideaway33, I have removed your sentence with USA and a bomb bit.
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Post by slideaway33 on Oct 12, 2017 12:58:29 GMT -5
slideaway33, I have removed your sentence with USA and a bomb bit. No worries...it was a bit over the top |
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Post by modxxii on Oct 12, 2017 13:01:04 GMT -5
6/10
I've tried but I don't like the song.
It's not a bad song but I really can't listen it... boring.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 12, 2017 13:01:55 GMT -5
slideaway33, I have removed your sentence with USA and a bomb bit. No worries...it was a bit over the top . It was indeed. You may disagree with anyone, but it's disrespectful if you pull too much for it. |
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Oct 12, 2017 13:03:53 GMT -5
4/10
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 12, 2017 13:15:30 GMT -5
I'll have another Holy Mountain on the rocks please. The last time I tasted a drink this good was 1997. I can't help it...the only proper response to that is "as you were" Or even..."Be Here Now"  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 12, 2017 13:28:48 GMT -5
10, easy.
This forum s the doledrums
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Post by LlAM on Oct 12, 2017 14:58:10 GMT -5
6/10 I've tried but I don't like the song. It's not a bad song but I really can't listen it... boring. 6 out of 10 for a song you don't like? Thats a VERY generous rating... |
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Post by dion on Oct 12, 2017 15:47:43 GMT -5
The average rating so far is 5.7, considering this is an Oasis forum and likely to suffer from significant inflation I think that is pretty telling. In my opinion this is one of his least inspired and least interesting offerings ever released as a single by Noel, especially as a lead single. It's lyrics are bland, repetitive, with no emotional resonance. His vocals are shouty and flat and drowned by the general din of the rest of the mix. Musically there's nothing that stands out because everything is loud. He tries to hide it behind a manic tempo and lots of fuzz but it doesn't do the song any favours. It's not like The Death of You and Me, which had relatively clever lyrics and an unusual composition for a Noel song. This one isn't going to grow on me, it's like all the worst parts of Dream On distilled, sped up and the volume cranked to 11. I gave it a 4/10, which after 5-6 listens is still my view. It's the worst non-B side song released by Noel since he went solo. I actually think the opposite: the reaction to this song would not be so polarised in any other place than among Oasis diehard fans like us. You talk about the average of the ratings, but the most amazing part for me is the standard deviation (the huge variability of the ratings). And I am afraid this will happen again when the full album is released. Any "bad" song on this forum will have a high deviation because it will still receive a disproportionate number of high votes by people who vote with emotion rather than objectivity. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Oct 12, 2017 17:05:55 GMT -5
Add me to the group of zero's. I have been a huge Oasis and Noel fan since 94 when I saw the at Hammer Jacks in Baltimore. Have seen Oasis 23 times and Noel twice. Have been waiting forever for Noel to get his new alblum out and there are very few songs I dislike by Noel. With that being said, I agree with others that Holy Mountain is the absolute worst single Noel has ever released. I'am almost embarrassed for him to of released this! Yes people want something different but it almost feels like Holy Mountain was made to release something different sacraficing all quality. I hope to God the entire alblum is not like this! I'm in a bit of a shock because this is the first time I have ever listened to a single by Noel and said to my self "this is complete and utter garbage. Sometimes supporting a singer or song writer is knowing when to give feedback and say "you f'd up" I would encourage everyone who gave this a high rating to consider if you are giving this single a high rating out of emotion? Because it is new? To show your devotion and support to Noel? Do not encourage this...this single is absolutely trash. It is cringe worthy! I have always thought that Noel for marketing reasons has always said "this is the best song I have ever written" and in this case he said it but know there is no way in hell he really believes it. If the rest of the alblum is like this, I would rather Noel cancel the release and go back to the drawing board and wait another life time for an alblum that actually is worthy for the name Noel Gallager on it. There is absolutely nothing to this song other than a bunch of noise, distorted vocals and crappy atremp for verse and chorus. I will say yes it is not a zero in the grand scheme of music but for Noel where most songs are a 9/10, zero does serve a purpose. A way to say "ah son you done f'd up" This single is trash and honestly even just by it being on the alblum even if the rest is good degrades the over all quality of every other song just by ever being made in the first place. Zero's you are my true hereo's! We don't accept garbage from the greatest singer and song writer of all time because we know what he is capable of. I can only imagine all the yes sir's around him who told him Holy Mountain is good. I stand by my zero rating and I'm so disgusted and let down by what I have heard in Holy Mountain that I finally broke down and made an account so I can vent my frustrations after being a fan since 94. Let me be clear, love Noel want to support him but can not accept garbage like Holy Mountain with out speaking up. Good post - even if I don't agree with all of it I do agree that this isn't of the quality we've come to expect from Noel. It's great he's trying something a bit different but the problem is that I don't think Noel has ever known how to be truly original. He's always been a genius at spotting the great thing about a number of different tunes and combining them to come up with something 'new' that at the same time feels familiar. It means that when he tries to push the envelope it sounds almost like a pastiche rather than something truly different and innovative. Holy Mountain is an ear worm and it's stuck in my head but I don't really want it to be there, if that makes sense. By the way, you do know it's "album" not "alblum", right? |
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Post by drewsky34 on Oct 12, 2017 18:51:31 GMT -5
I don't hate it but I don't understand why you can barely hear his voice pretty much the whole song, but he is coming back to Texas next year and I bet this song will be awesome live.
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Post by walterglass on Oct 13, 2017 2:21:24 GMT -5
Bumped my score up to a 5 because it sounds decent live.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 13, 2017 3:54:39 GMT -5
I actually think the opposite: the reaction to this song would not be so polarised in any other place than among Oasis diehard fans like us. You talk about the average of the ratings, but the most amazing part for me is the standard deviation (the huge variability of the ratings). And I am afraid this will happen again when the full album is released. Any "bad" song on this forum will have a high deviation because it will still receive a disproportionate number of high votes by people who vote with emotion rather than objectivity. I see you can read other people's minds and know better than them whether they like something or not. Good for you |
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 13, 2017 4:02:34 GMT -5
I think the first set of verses should have the bass groove higher, it makes them feel a lot less stilted - but once that first chorus kicks in, you're absolutely rocking. Don't understand how anyone can dislike that chorus.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 13, 2017 4:56:28 GMT -5
I think the first set of verses should have the bass groove higher, it makes them feel a lot less stilted - but once that first chorus kicks in, you're absolutely rocking. Don't understand how anyone can dislike that chorus. Can we have a new poll please. Does TheEscapist like Holy Mountain?  |
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Post by Noeldemort on Oct 13, 2017 4:59:14 GMT -5
I'd give it a 6.5 which is a lot from me. The tune's still stuck in my head tho
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Post by lahaine on Oct 13, 2017 10:46:27 GMT -5
I love it. Just a upbeat catchy rock number to get you going. It's like Beach Boys and Creedence Clearwater Revival decided to try out a Glam Rock tune. gets a 9/10 from me. looking forward to the new album.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 13, 2017 13:37:37 GMT -5
I bumped it to a 7, yeah it's growing baby.
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Post by dion on Oct 13, 2017 15:23:22 GMT -5
Any "bad" song on this forum will have a high deviation because it will still receive a disproportionate number of high votes by people who vote with emotion rather than objectivity. I see you can read other people's minds and know better than them whether they like something or not. Good for you I never said anything about what other people think of it in that post. |
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Post by dion on Oct 13, 2017 15:26:49 GMT -5
Update: Average = 6.31065089 Not much improvement over your 5.7 number. But still an improvement. That said, we could get always discuss why a rating system would ever have a ZERO option. That average seems spot on to me. An average song. Still only averaging 5.74. |
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 13, 2017 18:14:07 GMT -5
That average seems spot on to me. An average song. Still only averaging 5.74. I'd be really interested in the results if we ran this poll in a year's time. |
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Post by matt on Oct 13, 2017 20:15:41 GMT -5
Still only averaging 5.74. I'd be really interested in the results if we ran this poll in a year's time. Hilarious how you see music critics - often the scourge of Oasis fans - throwing out 8s and 9s out of 10s for the song, while this forum massively underrates it! It's supposed to be the other way around. I have to say this time though, the critics have it spot on, and the forum has woefully misinterpreted it. This is what it would be like on the Coldplay forum if they released something interesting again and offended their teeny bopper fans. |
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