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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 13, 2017 16:42:08 GMT -5
Also: To go from the likes of Force of Nature, Hung In A Bad Place, A Quick Peep, Better Man, She Is Love, and Probably All in the Mind to The Importance of Being Idle, Lyla, Turn Up the Sun, Part of the Queue, Guess God Thinks I'm Able, and Mucky Fingers in just a mere 3 years is pretty fucking inspiring stuff. That's apples to oranges. You compared the weaker HC tracks to the better DBTT tracks. That's not fair. HC had the better singles. Perhaps. But there's no denying that DBTT as an entire album is so much better that it's not even close. Sometimes you need your substitutes to come off the bench to win you the game (like Aaron Ramsey and Olivier Giroud, ho hum). |
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Post by My Big Name on Aug 13, 2017 17:22:40 GMT -5
How many songs from HC would get on DBTT? Swap Love like a bomb for Stop Crying your heart out and Keep the dream alive for Songbird maybe Little by Little instead of A Bell will Ring, that's it really. Hindu Times would get on DBTT in place of Mucky Fingers or The Meaning of Soul easily. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 13, 2017 17:31:46 GMT -5
How many songs from HC would get on DBTT? Swap Love like a bomb for Stop Crying your heart out and Keep the dream alive for Songbird maybe Little by Little instead of A Bell will Ring, that's it really. The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out Little By Little Songbird Born On A Different Cloud Those could all be on DBTT. Delete the following......... Love Like A Bomb The Meaning of Soul Keep The Dream Alive Let There Be Love |
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Post by Aman on Aug 15, 2017 17:10:12 GMT -5
Definitely in the bottom 2 worst for sure with HC.
SOTSOG and DOYS simply have better songs on there.
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Post by glider on Aug 16, 2017 14:12:29 GMT -5
Sardy's brickwall mastering technique is as dull as the cover.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 15:16:00 GMT -5
The fact that this thread has gotten so much traction tells you it's not the worst album. If you made a thread calling HC the worst, then most people would ignore it as stating a simple, well-understood, and accepted fact.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 15:30:26 GMT -5
That's apples to oranges. You compared the weaker HC tracks to the better DBTT tracks. That's not fair. HC had the better singles. Is that true though... The Hindu Times • Lyla Stop Crying Your Heart Out • The Importance of Being Idle Little By Little/She Is Love • Let There Be Love Songbird • [nothing] I guess you can give HC the nod because they released an extra single? I'm not seeing some kind of definitively better set of singles there. Also, there is no excuse for the double a-side single... especially with it involving She Is Love. Thoughts? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 16, 2017 15:34:54 GMT -5
That's apples to oranges. You compared the weaker HC tracks to the better DBTT tracks. That's not fair. HC had the better singles. Is that true though... The Hindu Times • Lyla Stop Crying Your Heart Out • The Importance of Being Idle Little By Little/She Is Love • Let There Be Love Songbird • [nothing] I guess you can give HC the nod because they released an extra single? I'm not seeing some kind of definitively better set of singles there. Also, there is no excuse for the double a-side single... especially with it involving She Is Love. Thoughts? You missed my point. He compared some of the worst songs off HC to the best 3-4 on DBTT. That's not fair. Compare best to best or worst to worst. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 15:37:22 GMT -5
Is that true though... The Hindu Times • Lyla Stop Crying Your Heart Out • The Importance of Being Idle Little By Little/She Is Love • Let There Be Love Songbird • [nothing] I guess you can give HC the nod because they released an extra single? I'm not seeing some kind of definitively better set of singles there. Also, there is no excuse for the double a-side single... especially with it involving She Is Love. Thoughts? You missed my point. He compared some of the worst songs off HC to the best 3-4 on DBTT. That's not fair. Compare best to best or worst to worst. I am aware of that... I should have highlighted your last sentence... that's what I was commenting on. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 17, 2017 3:02:18 GMT -5
That's apples to oranges. You compared the weaker HC tracks to the better DBTT tracks. That's not fair. HC had the better singles. Is that true though... The Hindu Times • Lyla Stop Crying Your Heart Out • The Importance of Being Idle Little By Little/She Is Love • Let There Be Love Songbird • [nothing] I guess you can give HC the nod because they released an extra single? I'm not seeing some kind of definitively better set of singles there. Also, there is no excuse for the double a-side single... especially with it involving She Is Love. Thoughts? Heathen had the better singles. As much as I find Little By Little a little dull, it's better than Let There Be Love for a definite. Then again, I prefer SCYH to TIOBI |
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Post by Aman on Aug 17, 2017 3:56:54 GMT -5
The HC singles are better. But the album tracks on DBTT are quite superior.
The differences between the HC singles and DBTT singles isn't that large but I think the differences between both album tracks are.
HC is probably worse but DBTT isn't a good album by any means.
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Post by beautifulsupernova on Nov 3, 2017 7:39:55 GMT -5
I just love the whole era of that album like around 2004-6 some of my favourite performances came about like Noel's acoustic Live Forever (the one that appeared in Supersonic) and of course Strawberry Fields Forever
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Post by LightsOffInside on Nov 3, 2017 11:33:55 GMT -5
DBTT is miles better than HC. Better songs overall, better production, and drastically better vocals (Noel and Liam both sound unnatural on HC). I even value this album above DOYS, then again I really dislike DOYS.
I thoroughly enjoy every song on this album, and listen regularly (except for A Bell Will Ring, which is shite).
Plus, this album came out (in my opinion) in the last great year of British Music, 2005. It's been downhill for UK Music/Charts in general since then.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 3, 2017 12:44:47 GMT -5
the importance of being idle > every HC single
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 17, 2019 20:22:28 GMT -5
Please provide some "evidence" to support your statement. Then we can debate the merits of your rationale. Good day, sir. ----- I wrote the treatise on why Heathen Chemistry isn't crap, but that still doesn't mean that HC isn't the low point of Oasis albums. Hmm.... MG > BHN > DM > SOTSOG > DBTT >> DOYS/HC HC is the best Oasis album by 1000 miles. Dbtt is the second worst record behind BHN. If evidence is needed for an opinion: All the songs exempting 3 are fucking bad and Liams vocals suck. Can you provide some 'evidence' as to why you have BHN as better than DM? |
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Post by Marissa on Oct 17, 2019 22:14:49 GMT -5
THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING IDLE YOU GUYS.
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 17, 2019 22:37:33 GMT -5
Non stop greatness on HC, plus the best Liam ever sounded on tour.
Better Man
Song bird
Stop crying your heart out
Hung in a bad place
Born on a different cloud
Little by little
A quick peep, all on one record!
Pisses all over MG,DM,BHN, and DBTT
Sotsog is almost as good, so is DOYS.
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Post by johnlennon696 on Oct 17, 2019 23:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by oneofus on Oct 18, 2019 1:00:51 GMT -5
Dumbest thread I've ever seen on this forum since I originally started observing it in the early 2000s.
Everyone knows Standing is their worst album.
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Post by lg on Oct 18, 2019 1:33:22 GMT -5
Weird way to spell heathen chemistry
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Post by andymorris on Oct 18, 2019 3:09:07 GMT -5
DBTT has a problem : Gem and Andy's stinkers
If you replace them by the songs they had at the time, eg, Noel's tunes, it gets better.
Turn Up the Sun
Mucky
Lyla
Love Like A bomb
Idle
Meaning of Soul
Abel
Lord Dont Slow Me Down (liam singing)
Part Of the Queue
Record Machine
Let There Be Love
Much, much better
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Post by andymorris on Oct 18, 2019 3:43:01 GMT -5
DBTT has a problem : Gem and Andy's stinkers If you replace them by the songs they had at the time, eg, Noel's tunes, it gets better. Turn Up the Sun Mucky Lyla Love Like A bomb Idle Meaning of Soul Abel Lord Dont Slow Me Down (liam singing) Part Of the Queue Record Machine Let There Be Love Much, much better Still a completely mediocre collection of tunes, for me. The fact that this is the fantasy version of 2001-2006 Oasis shows just what a creative desert they were in at the time. Dig Out Your Soul and Standing on the Shoulders of Giants could both have been solid records with the right songs from their eras put on them. Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth are just masses of sludge. No passion. No inspiration. No colour. It's a bit harsh i think, i like the acoustic / electric side of this record, and there's a few good tunes and it's still an enjoyable listen now and then. Overall, it's an album that needs to be judged for its atmosphere more than its songs. Noel tried something new with his songs, it's the other three that let the project down with lower quality compositions. HC and DBTT were half baked simply because Noel let other people write songs, so those records dont know where to go. Same for DOYS. Swap Noel's songs from HC and DBTT and lose Andy's and Gem's and those records are more interesting. Not their best, though, and the perfect example why democracy does not work in a band. |
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 18, 2019 9:00:40 GMT -5
#1- HC (godlike)
#2- Sotsog (a smidgen less godlike)
#3- DOYS(Brilliant
#4-WTSMG(Great)
#5-DM(would've been higher if it didn't have a shit track)
#6-DBTT(kinda shit, wretched vocals, boring)
#7-BHN(just terrible, long soupy trash)
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Post by matt on Oct 18, 2019 9:42:08 GMT -5
#1- HC (godlike) #2- Sotsog (a smidgen less godlike) #3- DOYS(Brilliant #4-WTSMG(Great) #5-DM(would've been higher if it didn't have a shit track) #6-DBTT(kinda shit, wretched vocals, boring) #7-BHN(just terrible, long soupy trash)  “Go away, there ain’t no Heathen Chemistry and there never was!” |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 18, 2019 9:53:15 GMT -5
The vocals aren't great but it is a good album. I've said loads of times on here, that people don't realise how few Noel-written/Liam-sung tunes there actually are on that album. Absolute travesty. Only one and a half. Insane.
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