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Post by Lennon2217 on May 20, 2016 11:00:55 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record.  "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun." |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 11:06:20 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record. "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun."fuck yes. top lad. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 20, 2016 11:10:07 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record. "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun."A big, bold, uptempo beast sounds amazing. Fun though? Hmm. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 20, 2016 11:14:38 GMT -5
This album better not suck.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 11:15:47 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record. "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun."A big, bold, uptempo beast sounds amazing. Fun though? Hmm. depends what type of "fun" he means, if he means a whole album styled like heres a candle for your birthday cake then....well......lets hope not My main issue with Noels solo stuff has always been the mid tempo and tame sound, wheres the rock n roll gone? even oasis songs like lock all the doors is too fluffy. |
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Post by lalaland on May 20, 2016 11:17:05 GMT -5
Think it's funny how Noel first made a secret out of who the producer was, then randomly confirmed it was Holmes and now Holmes himself goes "what he do that for" ;-)
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 20, 2016 11:22:46 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January...
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Post by spaneli on May 20, 2016 11:30:26 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January... If he's writing the album in the studio, then they're going to either go at a snail's pace or lightning speed. Right now they're at snail's pace obviously. That's the way writing tends to be, at least, writing good songs. |
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Post by Gas Panic on May 20, 2016 11:37:43 GMT -5
I hope Noel's current tour is done and dusted asap so he can really get into making this record and get it finished.
He's been living off Chasing Yesterday for too long already.
What are the odds of us getting new material in the summer setlist? Maybe 2%?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 11:40:57 GMT -5
I hope Noel's current tour is done and dusted asap so he can really get into making this record and get it finished. He's been living off Chasing Yesterday for too long already. What are the odds of us getting new material in the summer setlist? Maybe 2%? seem to remember him saying not long ago that there wouldnt be any new songs as he wants to release the albums first as glastonbury 95 went down like a rock with the new songs as no-one knew them. might get the odd one like freaky teeth I guess but I think that one was basically finished on the first cycle anyway, the album version didnt really take much from he did with it live so it was probably done he just didnt release it. |
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Post by mossy on May 20, 2016 12:12:23 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on May 20, 2016 18:38:39 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January... If he's writing the album in the studio, then they're going to either go at a snail's pace or lightning speed. Right now they're at snail's pace obviously. That's the way writing tends to be, at least, writing good songs. Plus he's only going into the studio in tour gaps. Once the tour finishes hopefully they'll get it finished quickly. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 20, 2016 18:52:01 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January... That fifth track must take really long to produce!  |
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Post by mossy on May 20, 2016 18:55:57 GMT -5
Mad to think that if Noel's third solo album truly only contains new songs they wrote in the studio then Come On Outside will have been subbed for four albums!
Noel sure does like sitting on songs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 20, 2016 19:55:46 GMT -5
Mad to think that if Noel's third solo album truly only contains new songs they wrote in the studio then Come On Outside will have been subbed for four albums! Noel sure does like sitting on songs. Radiohead has been snubbing songs for decades. - Nude (from 1997, released in 2007) - Burn The Witch (from 2000, released in 2016) - True Love Waits (from 1995, released in 2016) - Up On A Ladder (from 2000, released in 2007) - Good Morning Mr. Magpie (from 2002, released in 2011) Songs still in limbo but from the mid 90s: - Lift - Follow Me Around - Big Boots |
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Post by glider on May 20, 2016 20:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jun 8, 2016 14:58:08 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record. "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun."Fucking hell, only just come across this. Thank goodness it's not Noel saying 'this one is fun' as, considering his over elaborate bold claims of the past, it would probably end up being as much fun as having dysentery on a rollercoaster. Let's be brutally honest here - when David Holmes mentions 'mid-tempo' songs, he means plod. And Noel has too often destroyed his talent with plodding dirge like production. And we all know who the King of Plod is..... Only Henry VIII rivals for pure tyranny. And he's got a beard.  |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jun 8, 2016 15:12:24 GMT -5
I love that David Holmes has realized what many of us have been bitching about for years/decades. Also good to get more solid info that Keefus Ciancia is on the record. "I think people love Noel and they're desperate for him to make a really big, bold, uptempo beast of a record - a lot of Noel's music is quite mid-tempo. This one is quite fun."Fucking hell, only just come across this. Thank goodness it's not Noel saying 'this one is fun' as, considering his over elaborate bold claims of the past, it would probably end up being as much fun as having dysentery on a rollercoaster. Let's be brutally honest here - when David Holmes mentions 'mid-tempo' songs, he means plod. And Noel has too often destroyed his talent with plodding dirge like production. And we all know who the King of Plod is..... Only Henry VIII rivals for pure tyranny. And he's got a beard. Ahhh, I missed some Sardy-bashing on the forum. It's been a while. |
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Post by matt on Jun 8, 2016 15:32:33 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January... Noel can take all the time in the world in my opinion, because he needs to produce something that really separates what he's done from the past. I'd rather him painstakingly process a song rather than thrash an album out in months that includes some tired old rehashes that he could write in his sleep. I want him to push himself for this - he will always have the melodic capacity to make songs good in any context I feel so that is why I'm so disappointed he doesn't make the most of those melodies by varying the sound. It's too often the case these days that the melody is dragged down and submerged by plodding rhythms and uninspired and often messy production. Case in point - I think Gas Panic is one of the most ambitious recordings he has ever done - arguably the most. It's well layered production and effects on it nails the mood of the song along with it's downbeat melody. Just imagine if it had been produced by Dave Sardy.... it doesn't bear thinking about. Again, a great Noel melody (which to be fair was at his lowest as a songwriting yet still conjured up this bit of genius) but this time the execution was perfect. I'm encouraged by what I've read so far. But as Lennon2217 would almost entirely agree, we've been here before haven't we...... I'll believe it when I hear it. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 8, 2016 17:18:22 GMT -5
They've had "nearly five tracks done now" since early January... Noel can take all the time in the world in my opinion, because he needs to produce something that really separates what he's done from the past. I'd rather him painstakingly process a song rather than thrash an album out in months that includes some tired old rehashes that he could write in his sleep. I want him to push himself for this - he will always have the melodic capacity to make songs good in any context I feel so that is why I'm so disappointed he doesn't make the most of those melodies by varying the sound. It's too often the case these days that the melody is dragged down and submerged by plodding rhythms and uninspired and often messy production. Case in point - I think Gas Panic is one of the most ambitious recordings he has ever done - arguably the most. It's well layered production and effects on it nails the mood of the song along with it's downbeat melody. Just imagine if it had been produced by Dave Sardy.... it doesn't bear thinking about. Again, a great Noel melody (which to be fair was at his lowest as a songwriting yet still conjured up this bit of genius) but this time the execution was perfect. I'm encouraged by what I've read so far. But as Lennon2217 would almost entirely agree, we've been here before haven't we...... I'll believe it when I hear it. Most definitely. It's put up for shut up time. These comments mean more to me slightly because it isn't from Noel or anyone in his inner circle. It's from a well established outsider who doesn't really need Noel to keep the checks coming in. In my head I imagine Noel doing Neu! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 17:52:15 GMT -5
Would you agree with Come On Outside as a b-side?
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jun 8, 2016 19:14:38 GMT -5
Would you agree with Come On Outside as a b-side? Quite honestly, I'd rather take 5 minutes of experimental doodling. Come On Outside is a good song, but you know we can't go back!  |
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2016 14:14:08 GMT -5
Would you agree with Come On Outside as a b-side? What's the point? It's pretty much in its finished state already, and it's a throwback to Dig Out Your Soul. It's well passed its moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:21:49 GMT -5
Would you agree with Come On Outside as a b-side? What's the point? It's pretty much in its finished state already, and it's a throwback to Dig Out Your Soul. It's well passed its moment. yea its missed the boat now, shouldve been the rocker of HFB 1 imo, it needed it but in comparison to most songs on CY its abit of a plodder and doesnt go far enough, if he was to release it now it would need changing up abit and worked on. but overall it sounds fine like it is, theres not much point in going back to it unless hes going to guest Liam on it. |
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2016 14:30:11 GMT -5
What's the point? It's pretty much in its finished state already, and it's a throwback to Dig Out Your Soul. It's well passed its moment. yea its missed the boat now, shouldve been the rocker of HFB 1 imo, it needed it but in comparison to most songs on CY its abit of a plodder and doesnt go far enough, if he was to release it now it would need changing up abit and worked on. but overall it sounds fine like it is, theres not much point in going back to it unless hes going to guest Liam on it. I like the song, and it's riff is brilliant. But it's another mid-tempo track. Oasis at their peak were never so lethargic, and it's something that continues into Noel's solo career. I don't get this obsession with some fans wanting more of that kind of thing. It's bizarre and it would only shackle Noel and make him fade into complete irrelevance and obscurity. Core fans would dig it, but only in the way that core Status Quo fans still give a shite about the hilarious Bula Quo album. Everybody else? Ach, nobody would give a fuck about Noel anymore. Which is why he needs to produce something exciting. Desperately - because if massive fans on a fans forum are getting tired of the same old, same old, then he's in trouble. It happened with Beady Eye on here, regardless of whether you're a fan or not, once you are losing your target market, then you're in serious shit. |
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