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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 20, 2016 15:10:23 GMT -5
My favorite song on Chasing Yesterday is In The Heat of The Moment. Aside from the nananas, which do harm its quality, I think this is the direction he should be moving in. Ballad of The Mighty I is very similar in style, but lacks the amazing chorus. ITHOTM is certainly not a throwaway track for me. And it's pretty amazing live too. I'm a little saddened that Noel won't be producing the next album, because I thought he did an excellent job on CY. Well, maybe not, since AA pretty much did half the tracks. To give Noelly G his due, the AA were only involved in 2-3 tracks: The Right Stuff & The Mexican And The Ballad Of The Mighty I which they didn't complain about, so presumably the CY version is very different to the one recorded with them. I'm very certain I read somewhere that BOTMI started out a bit slower and with bongos. I think Noel mentioned a few times what it sounded like when he tried it with the AA, but I can't retrieve it! |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 20, 2016 17:14:08 GMT -5
Personally I really like those two songs he did with the Chemical Brothers. Wouldn't mind getting more of that. That isn't experimental in the slightest, it is experimental for noel. |
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 20, 2016 20:29:06 GMT -5
I really would love to hear She is Love live. In fact, I think its odd it hasn't become a live staple, knowing how much Noel says he loves it. Could have opened gigs with it instead of IGTBF last tour  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 20, 2016 23:05:25 GMT -5
Personally I really like those two songs he did with the Chemical Brothers. Wouldn't mind getting more of that. That isn't experimental in the slightest, it is experimental for noel. When did I say it was experimental? |
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Post by mossy on Apr 21, 2016 2:16:13 GMT -5
To give Noelly G his due, the AA were only involved in 2-3 tracks: The Right Stuff & The Mexican And The Ballad Of The Mighty I which they didn't complain about, so presumably the CY version is very different to the one recorded with them. I'm very certain I read somewhere that BOTMI started out a bit slower and with bongos. I think Noel mentioned a few times what it sounded like when he tried it with the AA, but I can't retrieve it! The first ever mention of mighty I, discovered by moi, was by an engineer on Twitter who described the original version as "a killer": live4ever.proboards.com/thread/77946/aa-album-recording-studioYou're right, the AA version was described as having bongos. I can't find that interview either though. |
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Post by andymorris on Apr 21, 2016 2:48:27 GMT -5
I'm very certain I read somewhere that BOTMI started out a bit slower and with bongos. I think Noel mentioned a few times what it sounded like when he tried it with the AA, but I can't retrieve it! The first ever mention of mighty I, discovered by moi, was by an engineer on Twitter who described the original version as "a killer": live4ever.proboards.com/thread/77946/aa-album-recording-studioYou're right, the AA version was described as having bongos. I can't find that interview either though. That was a good find. AA version was probably interesting. Noel also said he recorded a 60s influenced version, that was slower. And then, he went for the turd that is on the record. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 21, 2016 3:53:35 GMT -5
Sorry if I seem pedantic, but was it bongos or congas? I think I remember them mentioning the second. Size does matter sometimes, you know  |
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Post by mossy on Apr 21, 2016 8:07:47 GMT -5
Sorry if I seem pedantic, but was it bongos or congas? I think I remember them mentioning the second. Size does matter sometimes, you know You're right, which is why I couldn't find the quote. Here's Noel's quote from the lovely asimarx's summary here: "Take the Ballad of the Mighty I. Pure dance tune. For some time I’ve had a slower psychedelic version of that song with conga’s, very 1969. In in the back my mind I had the idea to make it lighter, a bassline played by my engineer Paul Stacey and a drum beat was added. They give it the needed energy. Then Johnny Marr did his thing and he really made a twisted disco tune." (Oor magazine, January 2015, Thanks to General Dread, @mimihopps and Mean Mrs. Mustard for translating) He also said that Ballad Of The Mighty I was indeed recorded with the AA in the BBC Mastertapes interview in December 2014 live4ever.proboards.com/thread/80802/nme-amorphous-androgynous-hit-back-1223146?page=21 |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Apr 21, 2016 8:48:47 GMT -5
Sorry if I seem pedantic, but was it bongos or congas? I think I remember them mentioning the second. Size does matter sometimes, you know You're right, which is why I couldn't find the quote. Here's Noel's quote from the lovely asimarx 's summary here: "Take the Ballad of the Mighty I. Pure dance tune. For some time I’ve had a slower psychedelic version of that song with conga’s, very 1969. In in the back my mind I had the idea to make it lighter, a bassline played by my engineer Paul Stacey and a drum beat was added. They give it the needed energy. Then Johnny Marr did his thing and he really made a twisted disco tune." (Oor magazine, January 2015, Thanks to General Dread, @mimihopps and Mean Mrs. Mustard for translating) He also said that Ballad Of The Mighty I was indeed recorded with the AA in the BBC Mastertapes interview in December 2014 live4ever.proboards.com/thread/80802/nme-amorphous-androgynous-hit-back-1223146?page=21Glad my pedantry served a good purpose  |
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Post by Jim on May 10, 2016 8:38:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:34:58 GMT -5
Yeah, it's the shittiest song he's ever produced. I havent listened to that song ever since it came out. If noel goes that route, i'm done. the melody is shit and lazy, and the sound is atrocious. He's already tried to be dancey on this record, and one year on, it's clearly one of his weakest record. Let's not make the same mistake twice. best song since going solo for me, its great. No, no, no, no, no. It's soooooo fucking dull man, how can you think that? I mean the whole album does very little for me now but even at launch I thought that song was a waste of time. Most of the first album is better than it and a few off the second. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on May 10, 2016 17:38:17 GMT -5
best song since going solo for me, its great. I mean the whole album does very little for me now but even at launch I thought that song was a waste of time. Most of the first album is better than it and a few off the second. Live4Ever Forum in "Difference of Opinions" Shocker....   |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:25:02 GMT -5
No, no, no, no, no. It's soooooo fucking dull man, how can you think that? I mean the whole album does very little for me now but even at launch I thought that song was a waste of time. Most of the first album is better than it and a few off the second. Live4Ever Forum in "Difference of Opinions" Shocker.... There's opinions and then there are opinions. Liking or disliking Little By Little, fair enough, thinking TBOTMI is the best Noel solo song, nah mate, not on your nelly. |
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Post by Jim G. on May 10, 2016 19:55:41 GMT -5
it also distinguishes Noel Gallagher (produced) and Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird (remixed), meaning he's really considering using a different name on his next record. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 10, 2016 20:48:09 GMT -5
it also distinguishes Noel Gallagher (produced) and Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird (remixed), meaning he's really considering using a different name on his next record. Now that would be interesting. I would love to see a completely solo Noel album. Sorta like what Neil Young did with Brian Lanois and the album Le Noise.  |
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Post by mossy on May 11, 2016 1:32:31 GMT -5
it also distinguishes Noel Gallagher (produced) and Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird (remixed), meaning he's really considering using a different name on his next record. There could be something in that, but I wouldn't read too much into it until Noel announces something himself. How many other third parties, such as promoters, interviewers & reviewers, refer to the act as NG rather than NGHFB? Even his own website is www.noelgallagher.com not NGHFB. His Twitter handle is noelgallagher etc. |
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Post by andymorris on May 11, 2016 2:38:17 GMT -5
best song since going solo for me, its great. No, no, no, no, no. It's soooooo fucking dull man, how can you think that? I mean the whole album does very little for me now but even at launch I thought that song was a waste of time. Most of the first album is better than it and a few off the second. yeah absolutely, it's dull. People say Noel went MOR on the first record but Mighty I is more dad dance rock than everything he's ever done before. Chasing Yesterday doesn't age well, by the way. I gave it a 8/10 when it came out, now id's give it a strong 6. |
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Post by Jim G. on May 11, 2016 20:04:52 GMT -5
it also distinguishes Noel Gallagher (produced) and Noel Gallagher's High Flying Bird (remixed), meaning he's really considering using a different name on his next record. There could be something in that, but I wouldn't read too much into it until Noel announces something himself. How many other third parties, such as promoters, interviewers & reviewers, refer to the act as NG rather than NGHFB? Even his own website is www.noelgallagher.com not NGHFB. His Twitter handle is noelgallagher etc. i think this (website, twitter) only shows that "high flying birds" could be a provisory name. If this is so different to him, maybe he would like to change the title of the band, representing a different moment or even style. |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 1:57:53 GMT -5
There could be something in that, but I wouldn't read too much into it until Noel announces something himself. How many other third parties, such as promoters, interviewers & reviewers, refer to the act as NG rather than NGHFB? Even his own website is www.noelgallagher.com not NGHFB. His Twitter handle is noelgallagher etc. i think this (website, twitter) only shows that "high flying birds" could be a provisory name. If this is so different to him, maybe he would like to change the title of the band, representing a different moment or even style. He's already explicitly said he'd consider dropping HFB or changing the band name. All I'm saying is that we'll know for sure when he announces it himself. I wouldn't read too much into what name is used on a third party's website. |
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Post by matt on May 13, 2016 14:39:35 GMT -5
What about if Noel dropped the High Flying Birds title from the next one but kept it for live outings, distinguishing between the two? Keeping two separate projects with a solo album that pushes the boat out and would be difficult to replicate live, but still using the High Flying Birds act as a way to give the fans the good old singalongs and a chance to perform rarely performed hidden gems. Everybody's a winner!
I hate it when artists record with a part of their mind on how the songs would sound live - it often limits the scope of the artist in fulfilling the songs potential. If anyone is in doubt, just imagine if The Beatles had concerns about how Sgt Pepper would have sounded live and watered it down for public consumption - that's right, that record would never have been the magnum opus it turned out to be. The ambition would have been limited - and just imagine the horror at limiting themselves recording wise with A Day In The Life. As Ringo Starr said, they would never have been able to make records like this without quitting live performances.
I'd like to think Noel is pushing the boat out with no worries about how it would sound live. The album is immortal and will be around forever for future generations - make it as good as it could possibly be I say.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2016 14:52:31 GMT -5
The David Holmes news excites me but I've been let down by Noel so many times. Until I have this album on my laptop I can't get too worked up.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on May 13, 2016 16:04:17 GMT -5
The David Holmes news excites me but I've been let down by Noel so many times. Until I have this album on my laptop I can't get too worked up.  |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on May 14, 2016 6:37:00 GMT -5
What about if Noel dropped the High Flying Birds title from the next one but kept it for live outings, distinguishing between the two? Keeping two separate projects with a solo album that pushes the boat out and would be difficult to replicate live, but still using the High Flying Birds act as a way to give the fans the good old singalongs and a chance to perform rarely performed hidden gems. Everybody's a winner! I hate it when artists record with a part of their mind on how the songs would sound live - it often limits the scope of the artist in fulfilling the songs potential. If anyone is in doubt, just imagine if The Beatles had concerns about how Sgt Pepper would have sounded live and watered it down for public consumption - that's right, that record would never have been the magnum opus it turned out to be. The ambition would have been limited - and just imagine the horror at limiting themselves recording wise with A Day In The Life. As Ringo Starr said, they would never have been able to make records like this without quitting live performances. I'd like to think Noel is pushing the boat out with no worries about how it would sound live. The album is immortal and will be around forever for future generations - make it as good as it could possibly be I say. That was 1967. We are now in 2016. If you are truly talented you can capture anything live. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 11:31:34 GMT -5
That was 1967. We are now in 2016. really? i thought it was 1984. thanks for clearing that up. |
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