Not you as well, Matt! I was relying on you being my tag team partner for whenever the need to slag off Mucky Fingers takes me (à la Lock All The Doors). Alas, I shall have to look elsewhere...


Calling tomlivesforever! Are you there, Tom??

Great post.

I will say I kind of got extremely overboard with the disappointment the past couple of days mainly because of how much hate the band were getting on here. It's sucks to see that. The track just exists for me - it's not that good and doesn't sound like the Roses at all, or at least the Roses I expect to sound. People who expect them to release something as good as the debut might as well not have any interest in them now because it won't happen. You're not getting songs like that anymore. I'm a big fan of Second Coming and expected their sound to be akin to that, great alternative rock tracks with a more modern, jammy groove (like Daybreak), with some more harsh, psychedelic rock works instead of the hazy summer psychedelic 60s style pop/dance stuff. Begging You kind of material as well, with Squire having at it on the guitar, Mani distributing superb basslines and Reni reigning as the groovemaster. I'm fine knowing they may not create a song as good as Made of Stone again, but surely tunes like Tightrope and Begging You, or Breaking into Heaven and Daybreak aren't out of their reach right? 

Another reason for the brilliance of the debut is mostly Leckie in all honesty. He probably gave them a considerable amount of input to better the tunes. Remember Adored started out as a post punk track in their garage flower days (check out the live performances, they're bad!), and look what became of it! A psychedelic, yet simplistic groovy track. Like Tom says, Roses as themselves get alot of hype surrounding them because of being silent, the obscurity of their PR, and not releasing new material in over 2 decades.

Not sure why you expect them to write another Elephant Stone. 

Same sort of thing as with Lock All The Doors, really. Find it generic and plodding, and badly produced, and for the life of me can't fathom why it was Noel who ended up singing it. The rockers-that-don't-really-rock, with boring drum tracks, and Noel's vocals when they should've had Liam's, has been the one real drawback to Noel's songwriting since it got pretty good again in the mid-00s, in my opinion. 

While I do like the Stone Roses, they're almost destined to fail with a release 22 years after their last album, and 20 years since the band split.

Times are so much different now - the lads that grew up with them now have families. The musical landscape has changed - for better and/or for worse. And to think these scruffy lads can just comeback as middle-aged men and recreate the magic they did two decades prior is asking more than a lot.

Take a note, Oasis, and don't take ages to reform for you, too, would fall into the same trap.

The Stone Roses belonged in the 80s (early 90s, if being pedantic).

My prediction: Band will get a lukewarm reception - mainly due to resting on their laurels. Will be comparable to DGSS and Beady Eye's initial reaction.

All For One SOUNDS like Beady Eye, and has all the marketing hallmarks of a Bring the Light release.

GREAT SONG! 

I really rate Ian Brown as a solo artist. If you were to disregard every song that made it onto The Greatest I reckon there'd be enough first-rate material left over for a second compilation album.

Hey I'm here!

It's okay if you like the song. I've grown to see the Roses have two crowds: those who appreciate the creative substance and stylism in their music and those who embrace the lad rock cult following of them.

Do you know what I really want to hear? The original Paul Schroeder mix of Second Coming.

Haha not sure I can help you mate. I don't hate Mucky Fingers while definitely not a fan. I do reserve a speacial hatred for Force of Nature though.

That friday