I tried to convince myself of this when we first heard Coldplay's Amazing Day. Don't fall into that trap!!

I don't think Indie Cindy is that bad.  

I think Indie Cindy is a solid record. It's just not Pixies' great, that's all. I reckon half of it is some of the best work Frank has done since the early to mid 90's and a number of tracks genuinely stands up against the band's old material. It's just a shame that it was heavily marred by crap production from Gil Norton and has Kim Deal shaped hole in it. All in all though I really do think it's decent.

I'm pretty hopeful about the new one the band should be dropping later this year. Tom Dalgety is producing and it's supposedly a lot rawer in sound. Plus Paz Lenchantin is in the studio this time around filling in the much needed female backing vocal role (and she actually even sings lead on one track). And with songs like 'Classic Masher' it's guaranteed to have at least one great track on it. 'Super Lecker' sounds pretty promising too!

Oh and Chinese Democracy fucking rules. Genuinely one of my favourite records.

Think Chinese Democracy is pretty terrible but then i dont even like most vintage Guns. However i completely agree with you in regards to the Pixies album - it was actually pretty good - certainly not terrible -m but as you say it was kind of let down with bit dodgy production. The songs though were decent and was nowhere near as bad as some people try to make out.
Unlike this Stone Roses tune which is just frankly awful. 

There'll be an album. Remember Noel said they were "blooming," when he got asked about 'em months and months ago. Then there's the notes for new songs from their rehearsals for their comeback tour, as seen in the Made Of Stone film. The sum of their efforts over the last few years, cannot just be this song. There must be more. We just have't heard about it, because they come from a time when bands didn't keep folk alert on what they were doing all the time, via social media accounts. They obviously value the 'mystique' of the artist, so they're keeping their cards (as well as, hopefully their good songs) close to their chest.

And who's saying Brown even wrote the lyrics? Could've been Squire. Some of his lyrics on Second Coming were bloody awful. 

And bad production doesn't mean anything, really. You wouldn't think it would these days, but a lot of artists still come a cropper from naff producing/mixing/whatever. Take Oasis, for example. Absolutely huge band with infinite power and resources available to them from the release of their debut, and still, they never once worked with a great producer. Why was that so? Well, Noel, obviously, but why he didn't decided to get someone proper in I cannot say. And it would make sense for the Roses, a band who haven't recorded together for yonks, to go 'alright, who's well thought of these days? This Epworth fellow seems in high demand, let's give him a shot!'

Apologies if seem a bit confrontational. As I said the other day, I do seriously hope they do something next that you and other genuine fans get a kick out of. 

The only way I'm making heads or tails of it is that these fans are simply being unrealistic (have they followed Frank's 2 decades long solo career?) and comparing them directly to the bands original material and nothing else, OR, these people are the same crazies that adore Surfer Rosa and Doolittle yet disregard Bossanova and Trompe Le Monde and write NO KIM NO DEAL on message boards all across the digital landscape. Who are these people and what insane wavelength have they tuned into??

That 1.0/10 EP 1 review (the EP consisted of 4 of the tracks from the album) Jayson Greene did for Pitchfork was one of the saddest, elitist pieces of music journalism I ever the misfortune to read. Any shred of respect I had remaining for that site was incinerated by the deliberate and calculated targeting that hipster pulled out of his ironically slack arsehole. 

Now, this is a comeback single

Sounds like Status Quo jamming tbh.

It's alright. Not great but not exactly shite

I think some people have gone a bit overboard on the hyperbole and crticism. I don't really know what people were expecting. I, as many of you might have noticed was hugely excited for a new Roses song but my expectations weren't that high.

Lets not get it confused The Stone Roses aren't a great band, certainly not by my measure. They are great live have great musicians but that doesn't necessarily constitute great songwriters, the two can be very separate.

The first album is a classic, in my top 5, they had a purple patch and everything came together for the songs and the sound they produced but it can't be replicated. You only have to look as far as The Second Coming which I really like but it does sound like a band perhaps not well stocked with idea's or a least the songwriting craft to recreate something close to the glory of there debut.

The truth is they released one classic and one half decent album, what would you take from any other band who had done that? Would you consider them greats? The difference is the Roses dissappeared for 20 years and this huge myth built up around them rasing expectations that should never have really been there.

Take Oasis for example, you could argue that Noel had a 2 1/2 album purple patch but the difference with Oasis was that whatever you think of what followed Noel was always capable of 3 or 4 absolute belters. He's a proven songwriter. The Roses just aren't.

You only need to look at Noel's solo career compared to the Roses' solo careers to prove that point. For me even Beady Eye had better songs than Ian or Squire had solo. Sure, they're better when they're together, but you don't go from distinctly average back to world class just by reuniting two 50-somethings who haven't played together in decades. And obviously they can't just get back to the youthful energy of their early days - or the fuck all attitude from Second Coming.

As much as I like Beady Eye, only Flick of the Finger comes anywhere close to Ian Brown's best solo releases imo