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Post by davidjay on Oct 2, 2015 6:19:24 GMT -5
Off topic aside... Here's a clip of Chris Eccleston in a new spoof indie documentary filmed for BBC 4.
Watch "Brian Pern Indie Special: Indie Music Season - BBC Four" on YouTube
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 9:46:39 GMT -5
Just watched the start of Series 9, man this show is on a roll! Peter Capaldi is cool as fuck and I didn't want to constantly punch Jenna Louise Coleman in the face for a change!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 10:10:50 GMT -5
Good to see a lot of Eccleston love. Just wondering, did anyone really like Matt Smith? I drifted out of watching after that episode with the rainbow colored Darlek's and only properly picked up again at the end of Smith's reign. I wouldn't say it was anything to do with Smith though, I guess I just wasn't finding the show interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 10:12:37 GMT -5
Good to see a lot of Eccleston love. Just wondering, did anyone really like Matt Smith? I drifted out of watching after that episode with the rainbow colored Darlek's and only properly picked up again at the end of Smith's reign. I wouldn't say it was anything to do with Smith though, I guess I just wasn't finding the show interesting. I don't know anyone who really liked Matt Smith. His was the only era which I didn't watch religiously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 13:20:40 GMT -5
1. Blink (Moffat) 2. Midnight 3. Human Nature / The Family of Blood 4. The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances (Moffat) 5. The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit 6. Dalek or The Day of the Doctor (Moffat) 7. Silence in the Library / Forest of the Dead (Moffat) 8. Vincent and the Doctor or The Eleventh Hour (Moffat) 9. Listen (Moffat) 10. The Girl in the Fireplace (Moffat)
I need to stop making lists...
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Post by davidjay on Oct 6, 2015 14:54:21 GMT -5
The Escapist, here's some classic episodes in that vein that you might enjoy, one from each of the first eight Doctors. The recommendation comes with the proviso that they of course reflect the production techniques (and budgets) of vintage UK TV from up to fifty years ago. Your mileage may vary on this. But to me the storytelling is so good that they transcend those cosmetic limitations.
An Unearthly Child (episode 1 from 1963, starring William Hartnell. How the mystery began. "Just let me get this straight. A thing that looks like a police box, standing in a junkyard... it can move anywhere in time and space?!")
The Mind Robber (A surreal story from 1968 starring Patrick Troughton as the Doctor. When the TARDIS is caught in the path of a volcanic eruption the Doctor escapes by taking the ship out of reality. He and his companions find themselves trapped in a mysterious white void where the line between fantasy and reality becomes increasingly blurred. Ep 1 is very psychedelic - I guess reflecting the era perfectly!).
Spearhead from Space (1970. Jon Pertwee's debut and the series' first colour story, which also introduces the Autons - as seen in Eccleston's debut. As it was an all-film production it's been recently remastered in HD & looks great on blu-ray).
The Deadly Assassin (Tom Baker, 1977. The Doctor is summoned to Gallifrey after having a mysterious premonition of the President of the Time Lords being assassinated. There he encounters his old enemy the Master, who lures him into a deadly computer-simulated virtual reality called the Matrix, about 20 years before the film of that name).
The Caves of Androzani (1984. Peter Davison's last story and to my mind his best performance in the role. The tone of this story is strikingly different to the surrounding episodes, and indeed the series as a whole. It's visually and conceptually very dark, with the Doctor and Peri falling into the thick of a brutal conflict between a band of gun-runners and government troops over the supply of a life-prolonging drug found on the planet Androzani Minor. The story carries a doom-laden tone as events quickly spiral out of control, and the gun-runner characters are notable for their cold and sadistic behaviour, some of which I bet wouldn't make it to screen these days. There's also a rubbish monster in it very briefly, but the rest of the story is so good I let that pass, ha.)
Revelation of the Daleks (1985. I think this is the best Colin Baker story - his sparring with Davros here is a treat).
Ghost Light (Sylvester McCoy, 1989). The Doctor takes his companion Ace to 1883 and a creepy mansion house named Gabriel Chase. Ace had visited the house in 1983 and felt an evil presence there, so the Doctor takes her back in time to investigate its sinister origins. It's dark, intricately-plotted, and has an ingenious concept relating to evolution as its theme).
Paul McGann (he's great in the 1996 TV movie, but I'd say it has the opposite problem to a lot of classic Who: stunning production values thanks to its multi-million dollar budget, but weak storytelling. McGann has since recorded many excellent audio adventures for Big Finish, including The Chimes of Midnight and the Dark Eyes series. It was great to see him reprise the role for the 50th anniversary mini-ep The Night of the Doctor).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 15:50:37 GMT -5
The Escapist, here's some classic episodes in that vein that you might enjoy, one from each of the first eight Doctors. The recommendation comes with the proviso that they of course reflect the production techniques (and budgets) of vintage UK TV from up to fifty years ago. Your mileage may vary on this. But to me the storytelling is so good that they transcend those cosmetic limitations.
An Unearthly Child (episode 1 from 1963, starring William Hartnell. How the mystery began. "Just let me get this straight. A thing that looks like a police box, standing in a junkyard... it can move anywhere in time and space?!")
The Mind Robber (A surreal story from 1968 starring Patrick Troughton as the Doctor. When the TARDIS is caught in the path of a volcanic eruption the Doctor escapes by taking the ship out of reality. He and his companions find themselves trapped in a mysterious white void where the line between fantasy and reality becomes increasingly blurred. Ep 1 is very psychedelic - I guess reflecting the era perfectly!).
Spearhead from Space (1970. Jon Pertwee's debut and the series' first colour story, which also introduces the Autons - as seen in Eccleston's debut. As it was an all-film production it's been recently remastered in HD & looks great on blu-ray).
The Deadly Assassin (Tom Baker, 1977. The Doctor is summoned to Gallifrey after having a mysterious premonition of the President of the Time Lords being assassinated. There he encounters his old enemy the Master, who lures him into a deadly computer-simulated virtual reality called the Matrix, about 20 years before the film of that name).
The Caves of Androzani (1984. Peter Davison's last story and to my mind his best performance in the role. The tone of this story is strikingly different to the surrounding episodes, and indeed the series as a whole. It's visually and conceptually very dark, with the Doctor and Peri falling into the thick of a brutal conflict between a band of gun-runners and government troops over the supply of a life-prolonging drug found on the planet Androzani Minor. The story carries a doom-laden tone as events quickly spiral out of control, and the gun-runner characters are notable for their cold and sadistic behaviour (some of which I bet wouldn't make it to screen these days). There's also a rubbish monster in it very briefly, but the rest of the story is so good I let that pass, ha.)
Revelation of the Daleks (1985. I think this is the best Colin Baker story - his sparring with Davros here is a treat).
Ghost Light (Sylvester McCoy, 1989). The Doctor takes his companion Ace to 1883 and a creepy mansion house named Gabriel Chase. Ace had visited the house in 1983 and felt an evil presence there, so the Doctor takes her back in time to investigate its sinister origins. It's dark, intricately-plotted, and has an ingenious concept relating to evolution as its theme).
Paul McGann (he's great in the 1996 TV movie, but I'd say it has the opposite problem to a lot of classic Who: stunning production values thanks to its multi-million dollar budget, but weak storytelling. McGann has since recorded many excellent audio adventures for Big Finish, including The Chimes of Midnight and the Dark Eyes series. It was great to see him reprise the role for the 50th anniversary mini-ep The Night of the Doctor). I know many of these well, my dad got me into Dr.Who when I was 3 - 2 years before it was rebooted! I loved Rememberence of the Daleks, Horror of Fang Rock and Genesis in particular.
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Post by davidjay on Oct 6, 2015 16:15:16 GMT -5
Oh that's great to hear! I started watching the show when I was about 5 or 6, and was really into it by the time the original run finished in 1989 (my initial thought was "hmm, it'll probably be back next year..."). So it was a great thing to go back and discover that the series had this rich history behind it, though the books, videos and occasional repeats in the 90s.
Remembrance is a great one from that period. I would also recommend the Target novelisation of that story if you can find it. I think there's an audiobook version of it too. Written by the original scriptwriter Ben Aaronovitch, it really expands on the Dalek mythology and contains some brilliant sequences written from their perspective. I thought there was almost an echo of that in the opening story of the current series, where Clara's speech was translated by the Dalek casing.
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Post by Frodis on Oct 6, 2015 16:55:06 GMT -5
/smartass
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 7, 2015 8:58:58 GMT -5
Just watched the start of Series 9, man this show is on a roll! Peter Capaldi is cool as fuck and I didn't want to constantly punch Jenna Louise Coleman in the face for a change! I hope this series is a corker just to shut up the irksome 'Whovians' from forever slagging Moffat off. The man's an incredible talent. Sure, he goes overboard with the goofiness sometimes, but it's a very hard balance to strike, that mix of lightheartedness for the kids, and contemplativeness for the adults. The way I see it, the majority of the modern eps that are universally considered to be classics, such as Blink, The Girl In the Fireplace, Forest of the Dead etc. have all been penned by him, and he absolutely nailed the 50th anniversary special, so he's alright in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 10:00:37 GMT -5
Just watched the start of Series 9, man this show is on a roll! Peter Capaldi is cool as fuck and I didn't want to constantly punch Jenna Louise Coleman in the face for a change! I hope this series is a corker just to shut up the irksome 'Whovians' from forever slagging Moffat off. The man's an incredible talent. Sure, he goes overboard with the goofiness sometimes, but it's a very hard balance to strike, that mix of lightheartedness for the kids, and contemplativeness for the adults. The way I see it, the majority of the modern eps that are universally considered to be classics, such as Blink, The Girl In the Fireplace, Forest of the Dead etc. have all been penned by him, and he absolutely nailed the 50th anniversary special, so he's alright in my book. I agree, he has flaws as a show runner but as a writer he's really incredible. He also wrote The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. AND he co-runs Sherlock! He is a prodigious talent. Just watched Under the Lake and its another great one. Love the two-parter theme this series so far and Capaldi is just fucking excellent.
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Post by davidjay on Oct 26, 2015 12:47:31 GMT -5
David Tennant and Catherine Tate are to reprise their roles as the 10th Doctor and Donna, in new audio dramas from Big Finish.
They're also recording a series of audios featuring the War Doctor, played by the legend that is John Hurt. Looking forward to hear all these. https%3A//soundcloud.com/big-finish/the-big-finish-podcast-the-war-doctor%23t%3D0%3A57
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 13:31:35 GMT -5
My glasses broke today so I'll be spending the next few weeks in Capaldi-style sunglasses...Loving the twelfth doctor!!
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Post by davidjay on Oct 26, 2015 13:55:15 GMT -5
Above: Rocktor Doctor Who. Bonehead and Guigs just out of shot, sadly.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 26, 2015 15:32:12 GMT -5
Good to see a lot of Eccleston love. Just wondering, did anyone really like Matt Smith? I drifted out of watching after that episode with the rainbow colored Darlek's and only properly picked up again at the end of Smith's reign. I wouldn't say it was anything to do with Smith though, I guess I just wasn't finding the show interesting. I don't know anyone who really liked Matt Smith. His was the only era which I didn't watch religiously. I'm hugely surprised by this - Smith is my favourite Doctor by a landslide. Unlike Tennant, he actually seemed completely alien, he was enormously funny but could have a ice cold edge when needed. Series 5 of New Who is, imo, the best they have done - fantastic opener, the Weeping Angels two-parter is brillant on all levels, and the two-part finale has yet to be bettered (in terms of entertainment value, originality and sheer madness). Anyway, Series 9 Capaldi is great - series 8 Capaldi was a little too rough at times. He's better balanced now.
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Oct 26, 2015 15:52:27 GMT -5
I want to have sex with Karen Gillan while Jenna Louise Coleman watches and takes notes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 15:55:31 GMT -5
I don't know anyone who really liked Matt Smith. His was the only era which I didn't watch religiously. I'm hugely surprised by this - Smith is my favourite Doctor by a landslide. Unlike Tennant, he actually seemed completely alien, he was enormously funny but could have a ice cold edge when needed. Series 5 of New Who is, imo, the best they have done - fantastic opener, the Weeping Angels two-parter is brillant on all levels, and the two-part finale has yet to be bettered (in terms of entertainment value, originality and sheer madness). Anyway, Series 9 Capaldi is great - series 8 Capaldi was a little too rough at times. He's better balanced now. I've been re-watching Matt Smith's era and I definitely like him a lot more now, also I followed Moffat's timey-wimey storytelling a lot better. However he is still my least favourite of the modern doctors, just as the other 3 are all stunningly good - with Tennant being very arguable the all-time great. Smith suffered from poor writing, especially in Series 7. Good to see Moffat is seemingly back on form these days as he's in my opinion the most talented and brilliant writer Doctor Who has ever had.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 27, 2015 18:42:32 GMT -5
The problem I always had with Tennant is that he seems just so normal - so likeable. He pretty much was Rose's boyfriend at the end of season 2, and I like how Moffat has repeatedly shown how absurd that concept would be for a nearly 1000-year old alien. His dramatic acting was spot on though, and he was very funny too - they all are, aren't they?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 19:01:10 GMT -5
The problem I always had with Tennant is that he seems just so normal - so likeable. He pretty much was Rose's boyfriend at the end of season 2, and I like how Moffat has repeatedly shown how absurd that concept would be for a nearly 1000-year old alien. His dramatic acting was spot on though, and he was very funny too - they all are, aren't they? He was definitely the "Human Doctor" but I think that's an interesting take on the character. I think there's a sadness too it too because with Ten's relationships and emotional moments you feel he really just wants to be a human after the guilt and anger Nine carried with being a time lord. This was never shown better than during Human Nature / The Family of Blood. There's a part of Ten that really wants to just be John Smith (married to Rose Smith) I think and David Tennant acts this out of the fucking park in that story. That and "Midnight" are possibly the best acting performances from a doctor IMO. Charming, angry, scared, clever, sarcastic, intimidating, young, old, alien, human - Tennant nails them all perfectly there IMO. Anyway geek rant over
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 16:01:55 GMT -5
I voted for Tennant, but I'm watching Season 7 now and Matt Smith is *this* close to number one spot on my list. I pretty much hated him at first but he gets under your skin after a while, I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 16:38:07 GMT -5
That. Was. Stunning.
Seriously, that end speech by Capaldi is one of the greatest examples of acting and writing I've ever seen.
"This is a scale model of war. Every war ever fought right there in front of you because it's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts broken, how many lives shattered. How much blood will have to be spilled before you do what you were always going to have to do and sit down and talk."
Take a bow, Moffat/Capaldi.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 17:07:37 GMT -5
What a marvellous episode. Very topical and very powerful, especially the speech at the end. My dad described the episode as 'weak', a statement which left me speechless. Still, this is the same man who described Midnight as 'dull'.
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Post by mossy on Nov 7, 2015 17:10:51 GMT -5
Nerds ;-)
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