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Post by yearzero on Mar 6, 2015 17:56:21 GMT -5
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Post by icebreath on Mar 6, 2015 18:02:01 GMT -5
who fucking cares when you're actually THERE. They're not playing for YouTube users. this version doesnt have any balls, sorry. it's just "for the dads and the mums". nice arrangements and all, and it must be a blast hearing this live (and in no way because of Noel's voice) but I thought it was one of those MONUMENTS he wouldn't play without Liam. I have absolutely no problem with the setlist, but can I not be satisfied by this without any girlies being offended? I'm asking you.. WHY IS THIS?! If he's doing it for the live crowd and it mus have been a blast hearing it live...there's really no problem is there? (For the record, I think Noel's CS is pretty fucking good.) I know many will not agree with this but this song is so tied with Liam, even Noel singing it, it's not the same for me. It feels like a cover. Of course he has the right to sing it but it will always feel like a cover for me. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 6, 2015 18:15:07 GMT -5
If he's doing it for the live crowd and it mus have been a blast hearing it live...there's really no problem is there? (For the record, I think Noel's CS is pretty fucking good.) I know many will not agree with this but this song is so tied with Liam, even Noel singing it, it's not the same for me. It feels like a cover. Of course he has the right to sing it but it will always feel like a cover for me. I don't agree but I can see from where you're coming from,CS might be Liam's best vocal performance ever,it's his voice that made it famous,but even if I'm loving Noel's version I don't think it's about him,it's about the song and the crowd singing along to it |
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Post by Adam on Mar 6, 2015 18:30:52 GMT -5
I know many will not agree with this but this song is so tied with Liam, even Noel singing it, it's not the same for me. It feels like a cover. Of course he has the right to sing it but it will always feel like a cover for me. I don't agree but I can see from where you're coming from,CS might be Liam's best vocal performance ever,it's his voice that made it famous,but even if I'm loving Noel's version I don't think it's about him,it's about the song and the crowd singing along to it This is the sentiment I think Noel is going for. The Oasis songs he's used so far aren't the ones that are obviously Liam sung songs or just the standard Noel hits, but the Oasis songs which fans relate to and want to hear again - regardless of who sung them. I think the slight change in arrangement is Noel showing he's not ripping off himself completely by lazily replacing his vocals over the exact song. |
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Post by antz1994 on Mar 7, 2015 6:38:11 GMT -5
I was at the gig few rows from the front , to be honest the first few numbers had a dead enough atmosphere , then in the heat of moment woke it up abit , by the time champagne supernova came around it was buzzing , the crowd were in full voice and around then until the end it was great , as usual don't look back in anger was amazing , aka what a life was good aswell and masterplan was unreal ! Not bad for an early gig so close to the album release , and Noel seemed pleased with the crowd ! He just announced today he's comin back to Ireland to play cork in July I will be going as it's my hometown ! Cannot wait ! I felt some were there expecting Noel just to play Oasis songs and nothing from his solo albums, I thought the atmosphere did pick up when he played the Oasis tunes but I loved that he played most of the solo stuff (I'm a big fan of it) and didn't out right pander to them, smart move to leave some of his bigger solo songs until near the end. I wasn't disappointed at all and had a blast. He was on fine form. . Yeah I'm the same I enjoyed it all |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 7, 2015 8:26:09 GMT -5
To those of you who don't enjoy Noel playing CS that much because it's so connected with Liam: To a certain extent I agree, but as soon as I think about the fact that I will hear it from the guy who wrote it, alone, somewhere in his room, on his own, I think it is a very, very special moment to witness  |
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 7, 2015 9:57:33 GMT -5
there's no right and no wrong. in everything I say anyway. you should try that. I LOVE that new version of Champagne Supernova.. how can't I? the song is good and Noel is singing it. fair enough. but I just feel it's wrong. Tim's been more than good this tour but that solo is just plain boring. (he's top on Riverman.. wow!)
and I think digsy's dinner is a fucking CHARM in the setlist. even if it was sung by Liam. Noel's doing a fine job.
but I'm not a fan of this CS version. whats next then? Cigs and Alcohol and Morning Glory? he might as well shut up and let the crowd sing.
writing these titles.. I was never a fan of Beady Eye playing Oasis song but CS by them made more sense TO ME. so now where's this thread : Champagne Supernova - BE vs HFB
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 7, 2015 12:07:56 GMT -5
I loved Noel singing CS. I agree something like Cigarettes and Alcohol would be a bit weird but Champagne Supernova was amazing the other night.
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Post by Praetorian on Mar 7, 2015 12:48:50 GMT -5
always liked Tim, and he got better this tour without a doubt, but NOBODY should ever touch Noel's guitar on Champagne Supernova. and ALMOST nobody should sing that song but Liam. edit: Dude...it's Noel's song, he can sing if it damn well pleases him. In fact, Noel singing CS > Liam singing CS. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 7, 2015 12:54:52 GMT -5
there's no right and no wrong. in everything I say anyway. you should try that. I LOVE that new version of Champagne Supernova.. how can't I? the song is good and Noel is singing it. fair enough. but I just feel it's wrong. Tim's been more than good this tour but that solo is just plain boring. (he's top on Riverman.. wow!) and I think digsy's dinner is a fucking CHARM in the setlist. even if it was sung by Liam. Noel's doing a fine job. but I'm not a fan of this CS version. whats next then? Cigs and Alcohol and Morning Glory? he might as well shut up and let the crowd sing. writing these titles.. I was never a fan of Beady Eye playing Oasis song but CS by them made more sense TO ME. so now where's this thread : Champagne Supernova - BE vs HFB It made more sense to you even though it was written by somebody else and 3 out of 4 members weren't even in Oasis when it was written? And FYI, he has sung both of them already while in Oasis. C&A would be weird, but I love Morning Glory acoustic. Actually wouldn't want to hear Liam attempting either of them at the moment either, yikes. |
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Post by Rolo on Mar 7, 2015 13:02:43 GMT -5
and ALMOST nobody should sing that song but Liam. Why is this? Did you even see Oasis live towards the end? Liam could barely sing that song anymore. The way he used to screech the "..don't know WHY" sounded truly horrendous. Liam pre-2000 did indeed sound awesome singing Champagne Supernova. But once his voice went, I couldn't stand that song live. At least Noel doesn't sound like he's dying when singing it. This is pretty fucking good. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 13:25:28 GMT -5
Noel can sing whatever he wants to, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it.
Personally, I see his group's performance of Champagne Supernova as an invitation to the audience to stroll down memory lane and sing their hearts out. I don't think it's meant to be critically evaluated.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 7, 2015 14:16:25 GMT -5
there's no right and no wrong. in everything I say anyway. you should try that. I LOVE that new version of Champagne Supernova.. how can't I? the song is good and Noel is singing it. fair enough. but I just feel it's wrong. Tim's been more than good this tour but that solo is just plain boring. (he's top on Riverman.. wow!) and I think digsy's dinner is a fucking CHARM in the setlist. even if it was sung by Liam. Noel's doing a fine job. but I'm not a fan of this CS version. whats next then? Cigs and Alcohol and Morning Glory? he might as well shut up and let the crowd sing. writing these titles.. I was never a fan of Beady Eye playing Oasis song but CS by them made more sense TO ME. so now where's this thread : Champagne Supernova - BE vs HFB It made more sense to you even though it was written by somebody else and 3 out of 4 members weren't even in Oasis when it was written? And FYI, he has sung both of them already while in Oasis. C&A would be weird, but I love Morning Glory acoustic. Actually wouldn't want to hear Liam attempting either of them at the moment either, yikes. Its simply because to a lot of people Liam made those songs. I think a lot of the time peoples opinions vary depending on when they got into the band and how much they connect Liam to them. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 7, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5
Noel can sing whatever he wants to, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it. Personally, I see his group's performance of Champagne Supernova as an invitation to the audience to stroll down memory lane and sing their hearts out. I don't think it's meant to be critically evaluated. Indeed. I actually quite like this version. It will never be as good as one with Liam involved but Its a nice take on a well worn song. Being a big fan of Dylan helps as it feels like that sort of style. |
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Post by deasy on Mar 7, 2015 15:53:35 GMT -5
Its simply because to a lot of people Liam made those songs. I think a lot of the time peoples opinions vary depending on when they got into the band and how much they connect Liam to them. Noel, quite literally, made those songs. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 7, 2015 17:35:09 GMT -5
Its simply because to a lot of people Liam made those songs. I think a lot of the time peoples opinions vary depending on when they got into the band and how much they connect Liam to them. Noel, quite literally, made those songs. Don't be pedantic, you know what he meant |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 7, 2015 19:02:05 GMT -5
Noel, quite literally, made those songs. Don't be pedantic, you know what he meant He no doubt doesn't like it that quite a few people feel that way. |
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Post by yearzero on Mar 7, 2015 19:09:28 GMT -5
When you get reactions like this from people, I think it'd be hard to argue against Noel singing CS.
Saying Noel shouldn't sing CS is, for me, kind of like pitting Noel against himself.  I can understand, though, why people prefer Liam's singing of CS over Noel's version. It's just a matter of whose voice and arrangement is preferred (and also that Liam's singing of CS is the version most of us are most familiar with, therefore it's tied to nostalgia and certain emotions, etc.). |
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Post by eva on Mar 8, 2015 7:34:25 GMT -5
Listening to the bootleg right now and I don't mind Stranded as an opener. Sounded great. Maybe Do the Damage is more uplifting, but it was alright. You know what wasn't that good? Fade Away. Maybe it's time to replace that one instead.
CS: massive
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 8, 2015 9:00:44 GMT -5
Why is this? Did you even see Oasis live towards the end? Liam could barely sing that song anymore. The way he used to screech the "..don't know WHY" sounded truly horrendous. Liam pre-2000 did indeed sound awesome singing Champagne Supernova. But once his voice went, I couldn't stand that song live. At least Noel doesn't sound like he's dying when singing it. This is pretty fucking good. I admit, that is a pretty great performance by Liam. |
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I can understand, though, why people prefer Liam's singing of CS over Noel's version. It's just a matter of whose voice and arrangement is preferred (and also that Liam's singing of CS is the version most of us are most familiar with, therefore it's tied to nostalgia and certain emotions, etc.).
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