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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 14:03:35 GMT -5
Murrayfield, and it never compared to other stadium acts, so the standard was set high and for me Oasis didn't come close. Like I said, it was my experience, get over it. Fair enough. But your first Oasis gig... and you come away thinking that? Geeeesh. I genuinely feel sorry about that. You seem like quite an analytical guy... but did you not get a rush of excitement when they came on? Hearing Live Forever for the first time live didn't make you feel I'm finally here?(Murrayfield was in the Lord Don't Slow Me Down DVD wasn't it with the casual walk to the stage) I'm at a loss for words. I think that was Hampden, which was also in the Let There Be Love video.
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Post by matt on Feb 16, 2015 14:04:22 GMT -5
Murrayfield, and it never compared to other stadium acts, so the standard was set high and for me Oasis didn't come close. Like I said, it was my experience, get over it. Fair enough. But your first Oasis gig... and you come away thinking that? Geeeesh. I genuinely feel sorry about that. You seem like quite an analytical guy... but did you not get a rush of excitement when they came on? Hearing Live Forever for the first time live didn't make you feel I'm finally here?(Murrayfield was in the Lord Don't Slow Me Down DVD wasn't it with the casual walk to the stage) I'm at a loss for words. Of course I did, but this was 2009, not 2005 like Lord Don't Slow Me DVD and Liam infamously butchered Live Forever.The open air didn't lead to real acoustics so the fans around me didn't drown it out with their singing. Maybe I'm just being too observant, much of the crowd were really decent folk, but in my opinion, I thought there were a lot of thoroughly unpleasant guys there who ruined it for some.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 16, 2015 14:14:21 GMT -5
Murrayfield, and it never compared to other stadium acts, so the standard was set high and for me Oasis didn't come close. Like I said, it was my experience, get over it. This is the gig that I turned down tickets to (I wasn't a fan of Oasis at the time). My mum went with her friend and said it was full of utter arseholes. Yep, I was at that. Horrible concert, a female friend of mine got punched for being too close when a fight kicked off. Full of absolute idiots.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 17, 2015 9:10:00 GMT -5
Some real rubbish being spoke in this thread. Oasis revisionists trying to rewrite history to fit in with there own version. I've been to more than a dozen Oasis gigs and I have met a lot of great people, people I still talk to now and I love the buzz of a Oasis crowd definitely some of the best fans in world. The vast majority of people are there to have a good time, reading this thread you'd think it was raining piss but it isn't. But why present a balanced view when its so much easier to just generalise and throw everyone in together. Oasis gigs are communal. Even a few days before the end at Wembley 09 stadium the crowd singing Don't Look Back In Anger was huge and exciting. You do get idiots at Oasis gigs that's true, I have seen a lot of dickheads but they are in the minority and that shouldn't be forgotten I would also dispute that not happening to any other bands or artists over the years. The second myth is that Oasis have been shit live since 2000. Tell that to the people at Finsbury Park, the 2005 theater or arena tour and Wembley arena 2009. Maybe they haven't been as consistent, maybe they haven't been as interested or maybe you are actually bored of them rather than they have become boring. I can only speak for myself but I loved it the first time I saw them and the last. Its all personal preference and if you want to spend £550 to go and see Noel then fair play, the new album sounds good. I'm not ready to sit down and tap my foot at gigs quite yet. Well that's your experience isn't it? I'm not stating a 'truth' there, that was my experience back in 09, it was the only Oasis gig I've been to in fairness, but the performance wasn't much kop either and there was a vigour and energy that was missing. It's obvious from my account and other peoples similar experience that an Oasis gig isn't for everyone. If you can't cater to everyone's needs in a stadium, there's obviously something not right there. If Oasis gigs were filled to the brim with arseholes they simply wouldn't sell out the stadiums. Because the majority of people that go to the gigs as we both know are just there to have a good time and are perfectly decent people. If you had a poor experience then I feel for you but over the 13 or 14 gigs I've been to I don't think I've had an experience that ruined my entire night. Maybe Southampton wasn't the best but that was more to do with how cold and windy it was and how it fucked the sound up. What do you mean? An Oasis gig isn't for everyone. You probably have to have some sort of interest in that type of music and then where you go for a gig comes down to common sense. I used to go in the mixer but I've retreated since then because I know what its like and I'm getting older. If you were going with your mum to see Oasis at Hammersmith for example you would probably go for the balcony seats. You're opinion of Oasis gigs and there crowds is hilariously unbalanced.
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2015 10:23:16 GMT -5
Well that's your experience isn't it? I'm not stating a 'truth' there, that was my experience back in 09, it was the only Oasis gig I've been to in fairness, but the performance wasn't much kop either and there was a vigour and energy that was missing. It's obvious from my account and other peoples similar experience that an Oasis gig isn't for everyone. If you can't cater to everyone's needs in a stadium, there's obviously something not right there. If Oasis gigs were filled to the brim with arseholes they simply wouldn't sell out the stadiums. Because the majority of people that go to the gigs as we both know are just there to have a good time and are perfectly decent people. If you had a poor experience then I feel for you but over the 13 or 14 gigs I've been to I don't think I've had an experience that ruined my entire night. Maybe Southampton wasn't the best but that was more to do with how cold and windy it was and how it fucked the sound up. What do you mean? An Oasis gig isn't for everyone. You probably have to have some sort of interest in that type of music and then where you go for a gig comes down to common sense. I used to go in the mixer but I've retreated since then because I know what its like and I'm getting older. If you were going with your mum to see Oasis at Hammersmith for example you would probably go for the balcony seats. You're opinion of Oasis gigs and there crowds is hilariously unbalanced. Cut with the crap pal and the snide jibs, there are plenty on here who can back up my claim Oasis gigs are full of fucking arseholes. And by the way, you make it sound condescending about mums at a gig - would never go to a gig with my mum, but sure as hell would rather do that than mingle with the Planet of he Apes cast at an Oasis concert. The gig was ruined by such scum of the earth, in addition to a distinctly average band performance, that was my experience of it, so you can forgive me for thinking that any intentions to go and see them is a waste if time.
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2015 10:24:37 GMT -5
This is the gig that I turned down tickets to (I wasn't a fan of Oasis at the time). My mum went with her friend and said it was full of utter arseholes. Yep, I was at that. Horrible concert, a female friend of mine got punched for being too close when a fight kicked off. Full of absolute idiots. Same gig I'm talking about and same experience, but you'll probably get called a liar on here.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 17, 2015 10:34:02 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 17, 2015 10:37:05 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she'a awesome Just getting older.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 17, 2015 10:40:32 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she'a awesome There isn't... just Matt imagining things. He had a bad experience at an Oasis gig (unfortunate) so now apparently the majority of Oasis gigs in the 00's were by a sub-standard fading outfit which he finds unfathomable that anyone could enjoy. (Oh and that the Oasis albums in that time period were also rubbish) He's trying to get this viewpoint across as fact. Now let me tell you this... this is EXACTLY how NAZI Germany started!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 10:41:42 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome It wasn't that. I've been to a few gigs with my mum. It was just that I didn't really care about Oasis at the time. Needless to say If i had my chance again I would bite her hand off for that ticket.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 17, 2015 10:42:42 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she'a awesome Just getting older. Well yeah she's not exactly the youngest anymore, and I'm an adult and have been for a few years. I could go with friends, and if any of them would have liked Oasis/Noel I would. My mom likes his music and she's going through a rough time, so why not? Plus I rather go with her than alone. I'm just going to make it a fun day for her with buying her lunch and dinner and stuff,
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Post by thehyperbolist on Feb 17, 2015 12:34:30 GMT -5
I was at Wembly in '97 and there were some hooligan type moshing too much, etc. As long as they stay in the front, it doesn't bother me. Its not like I am there trying to sip on some tea from a dainty cup. I'd been more physically threatened at a Beastie boys show... I saw Oasis again on that tour in Houston the following year. Both shows were mind blowing. Fast forward to 2005, I saw them in Dallas at an out door venue, which isn't their best setting. The band and the new songs sounded great, but I was stunned with how inconsistent Liam was at that show. And while the played well, it didn't have that monolith power of '97. It felt like a reunion tour already or like a dinosaur of rock show...
Fast forward another 7 years, Noel plays Grand Prairie, just outside Dallas. He certainly didn't 'rock' but it was fresh. He was engaged and affable. You could see and hear his close connection to those songs. Miles beyond the constipated vibe he gave off in 2005.
1997 will never happen again for me, and I don't want a repeat of 2005. So talk of Oasis touring again is not really my thing. And Oasis has made a lot of great music since the Fall, but not a single consistently good-to-great album since BHN or maybe SOTSOG (after swapping out a few songs). I wouldn't want a reunion except a one-off like Cream or Zep. It would be cool if - someday- Noel and Liam work together, but not under the Oasis moniker...
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2015 13:15:05 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome If my mum loved Oasis I'd happily go, but she's not keen on their music and 'those Gallagher lads'. She prefers Take That! As I said, tomlivesforever was being condescending about having a mum at a gig, makes me wonder why on earth he'd prefer hooligans.
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Post by matt on Feb 17, 2015 13:17:53 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she'a awesome There isn't... just Matt imagining things. He had a bad experience at an Oasis gig (unfortunate) so now apparently the majority of Oasis gigs in the 00's were by a sub-standard fading outfit which he finds unfathomable that anyone could enjoy. (Oh and that the Oasis albums in that time period were also rubbish) He's trying to get this viewpoint across as fact. Now let me tell you this... this is EXACTLY how NAZI Germany started! Well if they made better albums, that might have helped me go to more. But hooligans aside, most Oasis gigs were sub par to previously - there's no way you can compare it to the 90s gigs.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 17, 2015 13:21:57 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome If my mum loved Oasis I'd happily go, but she's not keen on their music and 'those Gallagher lads'. She prefers Take That! As I said, tomlivesforever was being condescending about having a mum at a gig, makes me wonder why on earth he'd prefer hooligans. Mine never liked Oasis, but she does love Noels solo stuff and at first I didn't tell her he was of Oasis, and little by little I showed her more Oasis songs And now she's starting to like it a bit more. I couldn't care less who I was going with. Hell I'd go with my 94 year old grandpa if he liked Oasis!
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 17, 2015 15:12:42 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome I'm 20 and I've been to Eagles' gig in Lucca (Tuscany) with my mom last summer because: #1: all my friends don't like Eagles, and nobody wants to pay like 60 euro for a gig. The only one who does was on tour with his own band #2: She's a big fan of them and the only big fan of the Eagles I know Nothing wrong. I do prefer going to gigs with friends or even alone though
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 18, 2015 5:38:25 GMT -5
If Oasis gigs were filled to the brim with arseholes they simply wouldn't sell out the stadiums. Because the majority of people that go to the gigs as we both know are just there to have a good time and are perfectly decent people. If you had a poor experience then I feel for you but over the 13 or 14 gigs I've been to I don't think I've had an experience that ruined my entire night. Maybe Southampton wasn't the best but that was more to do with how cold and windy it was and how it fucked the sound up. What do you mean? An Oasis gig isn't for everyone. You probably have to have some sort of interest in that type of music and then where you go for a gig comes down to common sense. I used to go in the mixer but I've retreated since then because I know what its like and I'm getting older. If you were going with your mum to see Oasis at Hammersmith for example you would probably go for the balcony seats. You're opinion of Oasis gigs and there crowds is hilariously unbalanced. Cut with the crap pal and the snide jibs, there are plenty on here who can back up my claim Oasis gigs are full of fucking arseholes. And by the way, you make it sound condescending about mums at a gig - would never go to a gig with my mum, but sure as hell would rather do that than mingle with the Planet of he Apes cast at an Oasis concert. The gig was ruined by such scum of the earth, in addition to a distinctly average band performance, that was my experience of it, so you can forgive me for thinking that any intentions to go and see them is a waste if time. There is nothing snide about my post Matt. You're just incredibly desperate to support your ridiculous claim that Oasis gigs are 'full of fucking arseholes' even though you really know that making that sort of judgement on one gig is utterly stupid. You had a bad one, we all get a few and in a crowd of 80,000 people anywhere in the world there is always going to be some dickheads.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 18, 2015 6:02:23 GMT -5
What's wrong about going to gigs with your mum? I'm going to the Noel Gallagher gig with my mom and I'm not ashamed at all. Why would I be, she's awesome If my mum loved Oasis I'd happily go, but she's not keen on their music and 'those Gallagher lads'. She prefers Take That! As I said, tomlivesforever was being condescending about having a mum at a gig, makes me wonder why on earth he'd prefer hooligans. Where was I being condescending you utter fool. My mum is a big Oasis fan and I've tried to get tickets for us before but when I tried to book them I was using a bit of common sense. Firstly she probably wouldn't want to stand up for hours, secondly as much as she likes a drink and would never begrudge the youngsters jumping around like madmen she probably wouldn't want an elbow in her face and lastly she is quite short and wouldn't be able to see. So errr....you know I look for some good seating tickets. I thought considering those sorts of things for gigs was commonplace.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 18, 2015 8:49:30 GMT -5
There's some hyperbole happening on both sides here. The fact that there are two sides is kind of disgusting. Oasis were never as bad as people are saying, as if Oasis were some high school gymnasium band pushed into Wembley with only the lowest ranks of society attending. You'd think that by some of the comments here. While Oasis were certainly uneven live, and they were uneven, they were never nor were the crowds as bad as some say they were.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 18, 2015 8:58:00 GMT -5
If my mum loved Oasis I'd happily go, but she's not keen on their music and 'those Gallagher lads'. She prefers Take That! As I said, tomlivesforever was being condescending about having a mum at a gig, makes me wonder why on earth he'd prefer hooligans. Mine never liked Oasis, but she does love Noels solo stuff and at first I didn't tell her he was of Oasis, and little by little I showed her more Oasis songs And now she's starting to like it a bit more. I couldn't care less who I was going with. Hell I'd go with my 94 year old grandpa if he liked Oasis! Yeah, why the fuck not. I'm lucky enough to go with my wife (we met because of Oasis) and a few friends. But i would go with anyone if they like it and dont take pictures or respond to texts every 30 secs.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 18, 2015 9:15:47 GMT -5
There's some hyperbole happening on both sides here. The fact that there are two sides is kind of disgusting. Oasis were never as bad as people are saying, as if Oasis were some high school gymnasium band pushed into Wembley with only the lowest ranks of society attending. You'd think that by some of the comments here. While Oasis were certainly uneven live, and they were uneven, they were never nor were the crowds as bad as some say they were. Well said.
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