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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 18:19:03 GMT -5
He SHOULD get rid of IGTBF. Definitely. get rid of igtbf and replace it with listen up.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 18:21:26 GMT -5
Oasis has no future. Only a legacy. Get used to it. You pretty much NAILED it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 18:22:43 GMT -5
He SHOULD get rid of IGTBF. Definitely. It was cool the first time around on the HFB tour despite Noel using it in the same manner for STC promotion. Let's hear something different to kick things off.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 18:24:33 GMT -5
Surely he won't open with IGTBF next month?
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Post by forestfan on Feb 15, 2015 18:29:34 GMT -5
Riverman 100%
IGTF has done its dash- meaning would be lost two tours in
as opposed to Its good to be free or Liam and Oasis
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Post by forestfan on Feb 15, 2015 18:29:52 GMT -5
Riverman 100%
IGTF has done its dash- meaning would be lost two tours in
as opposed to Its good to be free of Liam and Oasis
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 18:29:55 GMT -5
So the status quo? Oasis had been doing the "greatest hits" tour since SOTSOG. That got old fast. I admire what bands like Pearl Jam, REM, U2 and Radiohead do for their fans. Varied setlists. Longer shows. Lead singer still sounds the same in 2015 as they did in 1995. Pearl Jam should be the model for all bands to follow IMO. They do 3 hour shows. Between 30-35 songs. No setlist is ever like the one before it. Anything can and will be played from their back catalogue. Plus they are notorious for doing random cover songs. And they record all their shows for fans to download days later with cool artwork. What's better than that? Do I need another DOYS/DBTT style Oasis tour? No I don't. Not if its goig to impact Noel's solo career and release pattern. I just don't see what Oasis has left to give at this point except to make fans who never saw them live happy. But that's not even the same Oasis I fell in love with in 1995. I personally feel Noel will stick to his guns like Weller, Marr and Morrissey. and look at a guy like springsteen. the guy is 65 years old and he still goes out there every fucking night like he's going to the electric chair immediately after and will give you 3+ hours, a different setlist and every single drop of sweat in his body each and every show. i am convinced that it is very important to him that everyone in the building who spent their hard-earned money on a ticket, from the front row to the last row goes home satisfied. i am one of the biggest oasis/gallagher fans in the world but if i'm being honest.... yeah, they were going thru the motions towards the end. with that being said.... to my knowledge oasis hardly ever varied their setlist during any tour, not even during 'the good old days', and they never played for more than 90-100 minutes. they just weren't that kind of band. Noel's right. Seen Oasis once post 2000, you've seen them all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 18:30:29 GMT -5
This is what I think will happen. He opens by playing the chords to Bonehead's Bank Holliday a few times. People are enjoying the music but are confused when a bald, middle-aged man swaggers onto the stage. The confusion mounts as he walks up to the microphone. Suddenly, it dawns on everyone that Bonehead himself is finally about to sing his song. As he opens his mouth, the audience are preparing for a right good chuckle. However they are stunned into silence when Bonehead emits the voice of a professional soprano singer.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 18:40:17 GMT -5
To be honest... some of the comments here make me sick.
The ideal scenario is Noel writing his songs under the Oasis moniker and Liam singing them (with slight variations obviously).
Some of the bile being sprouted here is just disgusting... especially about people not being bothered about seeing Oasis live again.... Jesus fucking Christ.
As long as Noel and Liam are alive, Oasis the band still exists.
Enjoy Noel's new album by all means (as I have)... but some of the posters here have lost all my respect.
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Post by clockworkgreen on Feb 15, 2015 18:46:19 GMT -5
The actual ideal scenario is HFB continues and Liam sticks only with Pretty Green.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 18:56:10 GMT -5
The actual ideal scenario is HFB continues and Liam sticks only with Pretty Green. What does Liam actually do in Pretty Green? I've seen him modelling in pics in the window. Probably much like Oasis, rely on other people to run it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 18:59:15 GMT -5
To be honest... some of the comments here make me sick. The ideal scenario is Noel writing his songs under the Oasis moniker and Liam singing them (with slight variations obviously). Some of the bile being sprouted here is just disgusting... especially about people not being bothered about seeing Oasis live again.... Jesus fucking Christ. As long as Noel and Liam are alive, Oasis the band still exists. Enjoy Noel's new album by all means (as I have)... but some of the posters here have lost all my respect. Bile being sprouted? AKA............people's own opinions. Come on man, if that's what people prefer let them be that way. I'm one of those "bile" posters you mentioned. I do not believe a reunion is in the best interests of Noel Gallagher the solo artist. I'm not sure it's in the best interest as me the fan either. Why would I want uneven Oasis albums again or a greatest hits tour? I got plenty of that between 2000 and 2009. Things now are fresh and modern. I dig.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 19:09:27 GMT -5
To be honest... some of the comments here make me sick. Some of the bile being sprouted here is just disgusting... especially about people not being bothered about seeing Oasis live again.... Jesus fucking Christ. Christ almighty steady on, you react like we're spreading racial hatred, but many of us quite simply believe that if Oasis were a beloved family pet, it should have been put down a long time before 2009.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 19:10:29 GMT -5
To be honest... some of the comments here make me sick. The ideal scenario is Noel writing his songs under the Oasis moniker and Liam singing them (with slight variations obviously). Some of the bile being sprouted here is just disgusting... especially about people not being bothered about seeing Oasis live again.... Jesus fucking Christ. As long as Noel and Liam are alive, Oasis the band still exists. Enjoy Noel's new album by all means (as I have)... but some of the posters here have lost all my respect. Bile being sprouted? AKA............people's own opinions. Come on man, if that's what people prefer let them be that way. I'm one of those "bile" posters you mentioned. I do not believe a reunion is in the best interests of Noel Gallagher the solo artist. I'm not sure it's in the best interest as me the fan either. Why would I want uneven Oasis albums again or a greatest hits tour? I got plenty of that between 2000 and 2009. Things now are fresh and modern. I dig. What if Noel had 100% control again? I dunno, I feel that a lot of people here (after being suitably impressed by Noel's album) are unfairly belittling Oasis later's work, BE and Liam to a gross degree. It's uncalled for. Be impressed by the album sure, but to be so anti-Oasis that one poster said ''Fuck Oasis'' is quite frankly astonishing. Even saying that they wouldn't be bothered seeing Oasis live again...I'm astounded by that.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 19:11:26 GMT -5
To be honest... some of the comments here make me sick. Some of the bile being sprouted here is just disgusting... especially about people not being bothered about seeing Oasis live again.... Jesus fucking Christ. Crust almighty steady on, you react like we're spreading racial hatred, but many of us quite simply believe that if Oasis were a beloved family pet, it should have been put down a long time before 2009. Oasis left the party 15 minutes late after the cops arrived.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5
Bile being sprouted? AKA............people's own opinions. Come on man, if that's what people prefer let them be that way. I'm one of those "bile" posters you mentioned. I do not believe a reunion is in the best interests of Noel Gallagher the solo artist. I'm not sure it's in the best interest as me the fan either. Why would I want uneven Oasis albums again or a greatest hits tour? I got plenty of that between 2000 and 2009. Things now are fresh and modern. I dig. What if Noel had 100% control again? I dunno, I feel that a lot of people here (after being suitably impressed by Noel's album) are unfairly belittling Oasis later's work, BE and Liam to a gross degree. It's uncalled for. Be impressed by the album sure, but to be so anti-Oasis that one poster said ''Fuck Oasis'' is quite frankly astonishing. Even saying that they wouldn't be bothered seeing Oasis live again...I'm astounded by that. Big "if" for Noel having 100% control again. I always just assumed he had 90% control at all times. Not sure why he let certain LAG tunes make Oasis albums. That created so many of my disappointments for Oasis post 2000. I'm loving Noel's freedom right now. He's seemed very different since emerging solo in 2011. It's been a breath of fresh air.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 19:16:34 GMT -5
Crust almighty steady on, you react like we're spreading racial hatred, but many of us quite simply believe that if Oasis were a beloved family pet, it should have been put down a long time before 2009. Oasis left the party 15 minutes late after the cops arrived. Haha, any other analogies? Said this one before, but Oasis were like the pretty high school prom sweetheart, then you revisit her years later and she's living in a caravan, smokes three packets a day, is 10 stone overweight and has various kids from various men. You then leave, wishing you'd never returned, and precious memories of bygone years forever soiled......
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 19:17:19 GMT -5
Bile being sprouted? AKA............people's own opinions. Come on man, if that's what people prefer let them be that way. I'm one of those "bile" posters you mentioned. I do not believe a reunion is in the best interests of Noel Gallagher the solo artist. I'm not sure it's in the best interest as me the fan either. Why would I want uneven Oasis albums again or a greatest hits tour? I got plenty of that between 2000 and 2009. Things now are fresh and modern. I dig. What if Noel had 100% control again? I dunno, I feel that a lot of people here (after being suitably impressed by Noel's album) are unfairly belittling Oasis later's work, BE and Liam to a gross degree. It's uncalled for. Be impressed by the album sure, but to be so anti-Oasis that one poster said ''Fuck Oasis'' is quite frankly astonishing. Even saying that they wouldn't be bothered seeing Oasis live again...I'm astounded by that. Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 19:18:32 GMT -5
Oasis left the party 15 minutes late after the cops arrived. Haha, any other analogies? Said this one before, but Oasis were like the pretty high school prom sweetheart, then you revisit her years later and she's living in a caravan, smokes three packets a day, is 10 stone overweight and has various kids from various men. You then leave, wishing you'd never returned, and precious memories of bygone years forever soiled...... So if Oasis have a UK tour in the next few years you won't be going?
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 19:20:36 GMT -5
What if Noel had 100% control again? I dunno, I feel that a lot of people here (after being suitably impressed by Noel's album) are unfairly belittling Oasis later's work, BE and Liam to a gross degree. It's uncalled for. Be impressed by the album sure, but to be so anti-Oasis that one poster said ''Fuck Oasis'' is quite frankly astonishing. Even saying that they wouldn't be bothered seeing Oasis live again...I'm astounded by that. Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon. Yep, all the millions of people who saw them after the 90's thought the same. Tell that to the people who saw them in Slane, Heaton Park, Wembley 09 Tell that to the fuckin' Argentines!! (what a quote!!) Bloody hell.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 19:20:41 GMT -5
What if Noel had 100% control again? I dunno, I feel that a lot of people here (after being suitably impressed by Noel's album) are unfairly belittling Oasis later's work, BE and Liam to a gross degree. It's uncalled for. Be impressed by the album sure, but to be so anti-Oasis that one poster said ''Fuck Oasis'' is quite frankly astonishing. Even saying that they wouldn't be bothered seeing Oasis live again...I'm astounded by that. Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon. Harsh but true. Seeing them in 2009, and Kasabian were much better. That says something as I fucking detest that band (barring the first album which is decent, they played all the derivative shite from the third and second album). It was the same in 2000 - Travis supported them and were far better by accounts I heard.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 19:20:46 GMT -5
I also found it lame that Oasis kept using Fucking In The Bushes (ON TAPE) as their concert intros for almost a decade. It was cool on the SOTSOG tour but I could never understand why it wasn't ever attemped live with guitars, bass and drums. Surely it is possible despite the Samples. Shit, the parts it samples (Little Miss Lover) were performed live many times on music shows by Jimi Hendrix and the Experience.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 19:24:42 GMT -5
Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon. Harsh but true. Seeing them in 2009, and Kasabian were much better. That says something as I fucking detest that band (barring the first album which is decent, they played all the derivative shite from the third and second album). It was the same in 2000 - Travis supported them and were far better by accounts I heard. Sorry, can't take any of this seriously. When the next Oasis gig occurs I'll be loving it... just as I love listening to new Noel Gallagher tracks.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 19:24:51 GMT -5
Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon. Yep, all the millions of people so saw them after the 90's thought the same. Tell that to the people who saw them in Slane, Heaton Park, Wembley 09 Tell that to the fuckin' Argentines!! (what a quote!!) Bloody hell. The sad thing is that Argentina gig looked great. But it was a one off wasn't it? You know that you would never be sure whether they would turn up on the day. The bad to average gigs heavily outnumbered the brilliant gigs, which were all too fleeting. A bit like Steven Gerrard today - a world class professional football who in his prime was just amazing, but the harsh truth is his performances are dragging the team down, and very occasionally, you see the fleeting glimpses of past genius. But with Liverpool fans, you'll still get the odd ones who want him to play on forever and ever and ever. That was often the case with Oasis. So no, I won't be seeing Oasis, I can assure you of that.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 15, 2015 19:26:14 GMT -5
Oasis after the 90s most of the times I saw them were shit. Liam was standing in the middle acting like a dick, whining, sounding terrible and growling. Noel looked like he couldn't give a shit and generally hating Liam and the rest looked like what they were, session musicians. Perhaps in 10years as a one off but I've no wish to see them again anytime soon. Harsh but true. Seeing them in 2009, and Kasabian were much better. That says something as I fucking detest that band (barring the first album which is decent, they played all the derivative shite from the third and second album). It was the same in 2000 - Travis supported them and were far better by accounts I heard. I've spent (through stubhub etc) £550 for tickets for me and the wife to see Noel next month in the Albert Hall and at my local arena. If it was an Oasis reunion tour I honestly wouldn't have paid that, in fact I may not go at all. I think I've maybe grown out of the swaggering, growling, spitting, looking for a fight crowd that Oasis attract (also Liam). I'm much more into the acoustic, lighter sounding grown up Noel now. It's maybe an age thing.
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