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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 14:01:11 GMT -5
It's kinda like what Noel said recently about The Stone Roses. Those guys were begged for decades for a reunion. Then it happened. Now nobody talks about them anymore. At least not in the same vein. Something was lost in that reunion. Mystique died. We never even got a new album which probably wasn't turning out well. As much a it pains probably a lot of people (maybe on here also) the stone roses were never as relevant as their heritage was made out to be. Their epic demise made them more copy worthy than their amazing album did. (and it was amazing and did create a mini movement). Also the way the came back full of lies of album (in my opinion). Noel's already outright said it'll be for the money which is honest and people can digest. The oasis reunion would be in different leagues to probably any other band the 'roses, the smiths, the jam because of what oasis did culturally in the UK on a country wide scale, which is unprecedented except from the beatles I have no doubts in my mind Oasis would sell out soccer stadiums throughout England and some European nations. That would take them right back to where they were in 2008 and 2009. Not sure what that accomplishes for Noel other than a shit ton of money and the honor of playing Wembley style venues. |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 15, 2015 14:12:55 GMT -5
It really wouldn't. Most of those bands are capable of better live performances than Oasis - judging from their live solo performances. Apart from the hardcore Oasis fanbase, there really wasn't an outright cry of disapproval when they split. It was the usual arguments about how they were long past their sell by date and more a shrug of the shoulders than significant cultural moment in the UK. There's no way back from that. And I think all the other bands have as much of a cultural legacy in the UK as Oasis - they may not have been as big as Oasis but their stock has risen over the years. Oasis last tour was the biggest ever tour in the uk (only to be eclipsed by take that the same year). So i don't think people were worrying about seeing them live, Oasis in 08-09 was maybe arguably better than 05-06. The fact that every single interview 3-5 years after Oasis split people ask Noel (the successful brother) about a reunion there is a demand Oasis owned the 90's which was the biggest movement thats happened in UK culture in 3 decades, everything changed and liam. noel and oasis were at the forefront of that, thus why both even now even when liams on the ropes there is a lot of 'fan boys' out there. Its amazing that other bands 'stock' can rise over the years but 6 years on since split or 20 years on you think people would just shrug at oasis'? no thats not true at all |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 15, 2015 14:18:46 GMT -5
As much a it pains probably a lot of people (maybe on here also) the stone roses were never as relevant as their heritage was made out to be. Their epic demise made them more copy worthy than their amazing album did. (and it was amazing and did create a mini movement). Also the way the came back full of lies of album (in my opinion). Noel's already outright said it'll be for the money which is honest and people can digest. The oasis reunion would be in different leagues to probably any other band the 'roses, the smiths, the jam because of what oasis did culturally in the UK on a country wide scale, which is unprecedented except from the beatles I have no doubts in my mind Oasis would sell out soccer stadiums throughout England and some European nations. That would take them right back to where they were in 2008 and 2009. Not sure what that accomplishes for Noel other than a shit ton of money and the honor of playing Wembley style venues. Well the money thats the point, Thats whats noels said? Noel got a solo career making the records he wants so like i said earlier the reunion would be a side project 6-12 months make shit loads of cash ride a huge wave of ego.. float reissues of post 2000 stuff to make more money .. its perfect for him.. Then back to HFB album a year after making the music he wants to make and his own tour. Next someone will be saying noels not money orientated, he is thats why it'll defo happen |
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2015 14:18:42 GMT -5
Oasis last tour was the biggest ever tour in the uk (only to be eclipsed by take that the same year). So i don't think people were worrying about seeing them live, Oasis in 08-09 was maybe arguably better than 05-06. The fact that every single interview 3-5 years after Oasis split people ask Noel (the successful brother) about a reunion there is a demand Oasis owned the 90's which was the biggest movement thats happened in UK culture in 3 decades, everything changed and liam. noel and oasis were at the forefront of that, thus why both even now even when liams on the ropes there is a lot of 'fan boys' out there. Its amazing that other bands 'stock' can rise over the years but 6 years on since split or 20 years on you think people would just shrug at oasis'? no thats not true at all You have to build up a mythology like status to have a raved about reunion. Hence why everyone goes on about The Jam and The Smiths. Oasis would reunite, but then everyone would realise it's just the same old same old as it was during the latter years. You lose a lot of romanticism that way. The greatest acts will always leave you wanting more when they split and judging from the hardcore fans here, I don't think many of us want 'more'. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2015 14:20:28 GMT -5
Oasis last tour was the biggest ever tour in the uk (only to be eclipsed by take that the same year). So i don't think people were worrying about seeing them live, Oasis in 08-09 was maybe arguably better than 05-06. The fact that every single interview 3-5 years after Oasis split people ask Noel (the successful brother) about a reunion there is a demand Oasis owned the 90's which was the biggest movement thats happened in UK culture in 3 decades, everything changed and liam. noel and oasis were at the forefront of that, thus why both even now even when liams on the ropes there is a lot of 'fan boys' out there. Its amazing that other bands 'stock' can rise over the years but 6 years on since split or 20 years on you think people would just shrug at oasis'? no thats not true at all I agree with you completely. Oasis live 2008-2009 was much better than Oasis live 2005-2006 for a couple of reasons. First I liked the 2008-2009 setlist better. I bought it flowed nicely with some of their new material at the time. Secondly, Liam's voice sounded stronger to me. Granted I had no issues with the 3 gigs I saw in 2005 but my shows at MSG and Camden in 2008 just sounded so powerful. |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 15, 2015 14:35:51 GMT -5
You have to build up a mythology like status to have a raved about reunion. Hence why everyone goes on about The Jam and The Smiths. Oasis would reunite, but then everyone would realise it's just the same old same old as it was during the latter years. You lose a lot of romanticism that way. The greatest acts will always leave you wanting more when they split and judging from the hardcore fans here, I don't think many of us want 'more'. Do you honestly think Noel cares about that? When has he ever cared about what the fans want? He disses the reunion so much at the moment because he's frustrated that HFB sold 800k copies in the UK (more than DOYS etc) and he's still constantly questioned about the Oasis reunion. Once he's content he'll sell out (like he's been honest about) and cash in that Massive reunion tour cheque.. Then back to HFB Oasis heritage is golden,14 year old kids will always love DM and MG a handful of them will go out and buy every album and BE and CY in years to come. If Oasis do some amazing or shit gigs in 2021 that wont change their heritage at all but will make noel much richer |
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Post by scott1 on Feb 15, 2015 14:51:27 GMT -5
Noel seems to be really in his stride and comfortable at the moment with the music he's making, although he keeps saying small things that appear to suggest Oasis is in his thoughts of late.
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Post by glider on Feb 15, 2015 14:54:34 GMT -5
The album hasn't even been released yet and we're already talking about an Oasis reunion. No wonder Noel gets pissed off sometimes. It's kinda like what Noel said recently about The Stone Roses. Those guys were begged for decades for a reunion. Then it happened. Now nobody talks about them anymore. At least not in the same vein. Something was lost in that reunion. Mystique died. We never even got a new album which probably wasn't turning out well. The Roses have a track record of taking ages to finish a album, let alone mass enough material to make a EP. Second Coming wasn't released until '94 and by that time Oasis and Blur had begun to emerge into the newly resurrected UK music scene. Their debut was a diamond in the rough that was calling for a follow up, but Dave Geffen actually told them to hurry up and put out something. Roses have a knack of dissapearing at the right time, and reapearring at the wrong time, but with great stuff. Their next album probably will be out in 2022  |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 15, 2015 15:37:30 GMT -5
If this is what Noel has to offer as a solo artist, then I never want Oasis to reform.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 15:38:34 GMT -5
If this is what Noel has to offer as a solo artist, then I never want Oasis to reform. I'm starting to feel that way along with quite a few others. |
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Post by emanoel94 on Feb 15, 2015 15:40:13 GMT -5
Reading the title of the topic I thought it would've been like "now it's sure oasis have no future as this album is too fuckin good"
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Post by Binary Sunset on Feb 15, 2015 15:43:15 GMT -5
Like someone rightly said above, Oasis were dying, a band worn out of ideas and albums way below the quality we expect. Sorry but best thing that ever happened was Oasis splitting up and Noel going solo. I'm getting tired of people continuing to ignore the good of DOYS. The Turning and The Shock of the Lightning, and Bag it Up are just as good, if not better than anything that came after it. I am enjoying everything since, and I love the new album, but you guys are revising history. They had the songs to make DOYS an almost perfect album, they just didn't use them. No way were they "out of ideas." I miss the rock songs written by Noel being sung by Liam. They are still good, but they aren't classics. Noels voice just doesn't lend itself to that type of song as well. |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Feb 15, 2015 15:51:29 GMT -5
I am happy with what Noel has put out, especially DOTL, and this album is probably actual album(just the songs put on the album) since BHN. I am happy with the way things are, but mark my words, once the reunion actually happens(and I think it will eventually) everyone here who "doesn't" want it to happen will still be excited and changing their tune. I want them to reunite, because I want to see them live. Sure you guys that saw them repeatably can say that you don't want to see them for the 400th time, but the people that haven't do. There is demand for it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 15, 2015 15:57:31 GMT -5
I looked through the first half of the first page. How this nonsense get to 5 pages, and is it worth a read through?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 16:02:46 GMT -5
I looked through the first half of the first page. How this nonsense get to 5 pages, and is it worth a read through? The first couple of pages are. And all my posts of course!  |
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Post by vespa on Feb 15, 2015 16:04:07 GMT -5
Noel should never have given up songwriting duties...this is partially the reason i believe oasis is no more.Noel was having to give up material to allow the others songs on there..this album is class .im quite suprised at just how good it is from start to finish
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 15, 2015 16:19:52 GMT -5
If this is what Noel has to offer as a solo artist, then I never want Oasis to reform. I was afraid that HFB was the best he had left over from years of songwriting, and that it would go downhill from there - but he has actually written better songs in 2-3 years (less considering how much he toured) and I see no reason why he should stop doing it. There's no reason for Noel to reunite Oasis, even if it's just the fact that people will always talk about him as long as it doesn't happen. |
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Post by UGHF on Feb 15, 2015 16:22:58 GMT -5
I looked through the first half of the first page. How this nonsense get to 5 pages, and is it worth a read through? A UGHF thread that gets to 5 pages... damn right it's good! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 17:02:47 GMT -5
i'm fully convinced that if oasis ever did reform at this point it would be nothing more than a couple of 'greatest hits' shows, possibly for charity. dig out your soul had a few good songs on it, but none of those songs had the crystal-clear ambition, inspiration and enthusiasm that rings out loud and clear on chasing yesterday. So the status quo? Oasis had been doing the "greatest hits" tour since SOTSOG. That got old fast. I admire what bands like Pearl Jam, REM, U2 and Radiohead do for their fans. Varied setlists. Longer shows. Lead singer still sounds the same in 2015 as they did in 1995. Pearl Jam should be the model for all bands to follow IMO. They do 3 hour shows. Between 30-35 songs. No setlist is ever like the one before it. Anything can and will be played from their back catalogue. Plus they are notorious for doing random cover songs. And they record all their shows for fans to download days later with cool artwork. What's better than that? Do I need another DOYS/DBTT style Oasis tour? No I don't. Not if its goig to impact Noel's solo career and release pattern. I just don't see what Oasis has left to give at this point except to make fans who never saw them live happy. But that's not even the same Oasis I fell in love with in 1995. I personally feel Noel will stick to his guns like Weller, Marr and Morrissey. and look at a guy like springsteen. the guy is 65 years old and he still goes out there every fucking night like he's going to the electric chair immediately after and will give you 3+ hours, a different setlist and every single drop of sweat in his body each and every show. i am convinced that it is very important to him that everyone in the building who spent their hard-earned money on a ticket, from the front row to the last row goes home satisfied. i am one of the biggest oasis/gallagher fans in the world but if i'm being honest.... yeah, they were going thru the motions towards the end. with that being said.... to my knowledge oasis hardly ever varied their setlist during any tour, not even during 'the good old days', and they never played for more than 90-100 minutes. they just weren't that kind of band. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 17:28:48 GMT -5
Noel has a good 20 years worth of material now, he's no excuse for not mixing the set list up.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 15, 2015 17:37:35 GMT -5
Oasis has no future. Only a legacy. Get used to it.
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 15, 2015 17:41:26 GMT -5
Noel has a good 20 years worth of material now, he's no excuse for not mixing the set list up. I'd love it if he mixed up the Oasis songs, I really don't think he will though. All he really needs to do is throw in slide away / masterplan / listen up and GET THE FUCK RID OF IGTBF and I'll be happy |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 15, 2015 17:43:43 GMT -5
He SHOULD get rid of IGTBF. Definitely.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 18:02:39 GMT -5
Wonderwall, Supersonic and Whatever are the ones I want dropping the most. I don't even like his boring mellow versions of them, would much rather hear a few of the lesser known ones.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 15, 2015 18:07:03 GMT -5
Wonderwall, Supersonic and Whatever are the ones I want dropping the most. I don't even like his boring mellow versions of them, would much rather hear a few of the lesser known ones. He will not do Supersonic again. I don't like his versions of Whatever and Wonderwall either, but I'd love to hear Wonderwall live, in the "normal" version. It's one of those songs you need to have heard live. I guess that's a pipedream though, as he's been singing it this way for over a decade  |
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