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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 15, 2015 11:41:06 GMT -5
The Right Stuff“I played The Right Stuff to a mate of mine,” says Gallagher, mentioning one of the most out-there tracks on an already out-there album. “And he said: ‘ finally’. This is what I've been waiting for since 2000: the moment when I hear a Noel Gallagher song and think he's finally done it, he's broken up completely with the musical conservatism he's usually associated with. We'll see if that's the case but I'm really looking forward to the album and to this song in particular. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2015 11:42:52 GMT -5
The Right Stuff“I played The Right Stuff to a mate of mine,” says Gallagher, mentioning one of the most out-there tracks on an already out-there album. “And he said: ‘ finally’. This is what I've been waiting for since 2000: the moment when I hear a Noel Gallagher song and think he's finally done it, he's broken up completely with the musical conservatism he's usually associated with. We'll see if that's the case but I'm really looking forward to the album and to this song in particular. I also feel the same way about "Riverman". He thought he was done with the track, ready to go as a b-side, a very safe Gallagher recording. Then he completely blew it up and went in another direction which he and fellow friends love. Hopefully it's good.  |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 15, 2015 11:52:12 GMT -5
This is what I've been waiting for since 2000: the moment when I hear a Noel Gallagher song and think he's finally done it, he's broken up completely with the musical conservatism he's usually associated with. We'll see if that's the case but I'm really looking forward to the album and to this song in particular. I also feel the same way about "Riverman". He thought he was done with the track, ready to go as a b-side, a very safe Gallagher recording. Then he completely blew it up and went in another direction which he and fellow friends love. Hopefully it's good. I'm actually a bit scared about Riverman since Noel commented he got the inspiration for the arrangement from one song in particular (Pinball). We know what that has meant in the past: Mucky Fingers was compared to the Velvet Underground and he completely ripped off Waiting for the Man. But the fact that he's very positive about the song and that there were no obvious rip-offs on the last album is very encouraging. And he would be stupid to go around playing Pinball in radio shows if he had recorded a very similar song. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2015 11:54:56 GMT -5
I also feel the same way about "Riverman". He thought he was done with the track, ready to go as a b-side, a very safe Gallagher recording. Then he completely blew it up and went in another direction which he and fellow friends love. Hopefully it's good. I'm actually a bit scared about Riverman since Noel commented he got the inspiration for the arrangement from one song in particular (Pinball). We know what that has meant in the past: Mucky Fingers was compared to the Velvet Underground and he completely ripped off Waiting for the Man. But the fact that he's very positive about the song and that there were no obvious rip-offs on the last album is very encouraging. And he would be stupid to go around playing Pinball in radio shows if he had recorded a very similar song. He said the something about "Baron Saturday" and "Bag It Up". He even played Baron Saturday at many radio shows. In the end those two tunes sound nothing alike. I was hoping Noel would actually copy the cool groove in Baron Saturday. Sample it or something. Cool sound. |
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Post by Praetorian on Jan 15, 2015 11:58:37 GMT -5
Hopefully "The Mexican" doesn't end up like another SBAJF. I was excited for that song with the last album and it turned out to be a dud.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 12:00:23 GMT -5
Hopefully "The Mexican" doesn't end up like another SBAJF. I was excited for that song with the last album and it turned out to be a dud. Yeah I don't know why, but I never listen to SBAJF. I always forget about it too. Not sure why, it's not a bad song or anything. |
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Post by LlAM on Jan 15, 2015 12:22:48 GMT -5
Hopefully "The Mexican" doesn't end up like another SBAJF. I was excited for that song with the last album and it turned out to be a dud. Yeah I don't know why, but I never listen to SBAJF. I always forget about it too. Not sure why, it's not a bad song or anything. Probably because Sardys bland production strangled the quirkiness out of it. Imagine it with a slightly out of key bass line and barebones drums and real saxophones (i.e. The Kinks' Dead End Street) and its an absolute beauty. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2015 12:27:03 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know why, but I never listen to SBAJF. I always forget about it too. Not sure why, it's not a bad song or anything. Probably because Sardys bland production strangled the quirkiness out of it. Imagine it with a slightly out of key bass line and barebones drums and real saxophones (i.e. The Kinks' Dead End Street) and its an absolute beauty. I actually like that song a lot. Sounds like Village Green or Arthur era Kinks. I don't usually give Sardy any credit but of all songs, he did that one proper. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 15, 2015 12:32:56 GMT -5
Probably because Sardys bland production strangled the quirkiness out of it. Imagine it with a slightly out of key bass line and barebones drums and real saxophones (i.e. The Kinks' Dead End Street) and its an absolute beauty. I actually like that song a lot. Sounds like Village Green or Arthur era Kinks. I don't usually give Sardy any credit but of all songs, he did that one proper. I think the only song that Sardy messed up was If I Had a Gun, and I'm not even sure it was all Sardy's fault (most likely Noel was the main culprit). Having said that, I prefer the production in the tracks we've heard off Chasing Yesterday a million times. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 15, 2015 13:36:13 GMT -5
I'm actually a bit scared about Riverman since Noel commented he got the inspiration for the arrangement from one song in particular (Pinball). We know what that has meant in the past: Mucky Fingers was compared to the Velvet Underground and he completely ripped off Waiting for the Man. But the fact that he's very positive about the song and that there were no obvious rip-offs on the last album is very encouraging. And he would be stupid to go around playing Pinball in radio shows if he had recorded a very similar song. He said the something about "Baron Saturday" and "Bag It Up". He even played Baron Saturday at many radio shows. In the end those two tunes sound nothing alike. I was hoping Noel would actually copy the cool groove in Baron Saturday. Sample it or something. Cool sound. I never heard that comparison before, but I wasn't paying attention to interviews and such during the DOYS era (I was done with so many disappointments). I can see where he was coming from, though, the basslines are a bit similar. It would have been amazing if they had recorded something as crazy as Baron Saturday. |
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Post by Adam on Jan 15, 2015 17:40:20 GMT -5
From the three tracks we've "officially" heard, I'm loving the energy and confidence each track exudes. This bodes well for Freaky Teeth. After all of its field-testing, hopefully we'll get a recording that matches Noel's live version.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 17:58:06 GMT -5
I actually like that song a lot. Sounds like Village Green or Arthur era Kinks. I don't usually give Sardy any credit but of all songs, he did that one proper. I think the only song that Sardy messed up was If I Had a Gun, and I'm not even sure it was all Sardy's fault (most likely Noel was the main culprit). Having said that, I prefer the production in the tracks we've heard off Chasing Yesterday a million times. Not sure. Some of the songs on DBTT that Sardy produced have a similar sound. Very flat and lifeless. I think the only song on HFB he nailed was TDOYAM. He did a good job on almost all of DOYS though. |
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Post by carlober on Jan 15, 2015 18:07:13 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me the most in Sardy's NGHFB production is the overall "flatness" of the sound. Actually there are interesting things happening in the background (the church bell in SOTWB, for example) but you can't fucking hear them! IIHAG is the worst example of this, it sounds like you're listening to the track while your head is stuck in the k itchen sink!
From what we've heard so far, CY seems to be quite a lot better in this aspect... we'll see
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 18:27:05 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me the most in Sardy's NGHFB production is the overall "flatness" of the sound. Actually there are interesting things happening in the background (the church bell in SOTWB, for example) but you can't fucking hear them! IIHAG is the worst example of this, it sounds like you're listening to the track while your head is stuck in the k itchen sink! From what we've heard so far, CY seems to be quite a lot better in this aspect... we'll see This is what bothers me as well. I remember Noel was saying he had stuff like kettles, glass harmonicas and stuff like that in his songs on HFB and I was like "where?" The OOPSed versions of the songs made this clear and showed that there's more to a lot of songs than we heard. |
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Post by Praetorian on Jan 15, 2015 18:27:48 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me the most in Sardy's NGHFB production is the overall "flatness" of the sound. Actually there are interesting things happening in the background (the church bell in SOTWB, for example) but you can't fucking hear them! IIHAG is the worst example of this, it sounds like you're listening to the track while your head is stuck in the k itchen sink! From what we've heard so far, CY seems to be quite a lot better in this aspect... we'll see Yeah, Noel brought out the sounds a lot better on CY it seems. For example, you can hear the western bells on ITHOTM clearly, and the strings on some parts in BOTMI. He seems to have a knack for getting the individual sounds out clearly. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 18:39:32 GMT -5
I think that's important. Why bother recording something when you're going to hide it in the production and mixing anyway?
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Post by Let It🩸 on Jan 15, 2015 19:00:55 GMT -5
oasisdna said 'Riverman', 'The Girl with X-Ray Eyes' and 'The Dying of the Light' were the highlights of Chasing Yesterday for him... 'The Ballad of the Mighty I' is a decent tune, so.... This spring can't come soon enough....Noël's new album, Mad Men series last half season, Better Call Saul and chicks wearing less clothes. eva knows what I'm talking about... God bless.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2015 19:04:05 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me the most in Sardy's NGHFB production is the overall "flatness" of the sound. Actually there are interesting things happening in the background (the church bell in SOTWB, for example) but you can't fucking hear them! IIHAG is the worst example of this, it sounds like you're listening to the track while your head is stuck in the k itchen sink! From what we've heard so far, CY seems to be quite a lot better in this aspect... we'll see Yeah, Noel brought out the sounds a lot better on CY it seems. For example, you can hear the western bells on ITHOTM clearly, and the strings on some parts in BOTMI. He seems to have a knack for getting the individual sounds out clearly. I do wish the strings were more pronounced in Mighty I. The only reason I know about them is because I listened to the song with headphones on full blast. And my headphones are some krappy JVC that I bought off Amazon for less than 30$. My normal speakers aren't bad either. They're very clear and powerful, but I can't hear the strings on them. |
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Post by oasis6 on Jan 15, 2015 19:08:45 GMT -5
Lock All the Doors intrigues since he went back to it all these years. He said a verse became Setting Sun. I've heard both demos (LOTD, SS), were they supposed to be one song that split into two? Also interesting they don't mention that the verses became My Sister Lover.
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Post by Bellboy on Jan 15, 2015 19:35:33 GMT -5
It's been mentioned before but the lyrics are not 100% clear to make out on TBOTMI or DTD. The 3 songs are sounding great but it took me a while to hear "be the man who walk the world alone" line for example. Noel has some great choruses but if you listen to the pronunciation of the previous album, for example, so far it's night and day. I usually am able to pick up the lyrics and sing along quite quickly, the hooks still get me but I find I am not so sure of the words this time.
I love the production and different musical parts of Mighty I overall though.
I am most looking forward to hearing The Riverman and a new & improved Revolution Song!
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Jan 15, 2015 19:55:30 GMT -5
It's been mentioned before but the lyrics are not 100% clear to make out on TBOTMI or DTD. The 3 songs are sounding great but it took me a while to hear "be the man who walk the world alone" line for example. Noel has some great choruses but if you listen to the pronunciation of the previous album, for example, so far it's night and day. I usually am able to pick up the lyrics and sing along quite quickly, the hooks still get me but I find I am not so sure of the words this time. I love the production and different musical parts of Mighty I overall though. I am most looking forward to hearing The Riverman and a new & improved Revolution Song! a great point. Overall the production is very good, pretty similar to the first NGHFB album, if not a little less polished, but a huge difference is I cannot make out half of the lyrics. the voice is not as clear and slightly more buried in all the mixes, although i think the music is more interesting this time so it doesn't bother me. although I would love if the vocals were up just a hair. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jan 15, 2015 19:55:36 GMT -5
I love the album already, it just feels good. Ballad Of Mighty I, come on this song is brilliant, the best i heard in ages from Noel. Riverman inspired by this Pinball song, i love this actual tune. Lock All The Doors, great chorus, no wonder he digged that out ( what a crazy idea btw, i'm very curious about this song, i think it's gonna be very good). The Mexican - he said it sounds like fuckin' Queens Of The Stone Age ( I mean... COME OOOOON ). Revolution Song- i always loved that one. While the Song Remains the Same- song about his youth and coming back to streets of Manchester, The Girl with X-Ray Eyes, it's just something about this tittles that feels already fresh. I'm excited, haven't been in a long, long time. It's gonna be great. Production so far is perfect.
Chasing Yesterday, bring it on.
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Post by CFC2013 on Jan 15, 2015 20:14:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel brought out the sounds a lot better on CY it seems. For example, you can hear the western bells on ITHOTM clearly, and the strings on some parts in BOTMI. He seems to have a knack for getting the individual sounds out clearly. I do wish the strings were more pronounced in Mighty I. The only reason I know about them is because I listened to the song with headphones on full blast. And my headphones are some krappy JVC that I bought off Amazon for less than 30$. My normal speakers aren't bad either. They're very clear and powerful, but I can't hear the strings on them. They kick when the tempo picks up several times with Noel's guitar riff. |
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Post by neily on Jan 16, 2015 0:07:20 GMT -5
NOEL GALLAGHER IS GOD. [/font][/quote] Funny to see god selling is soul to the devil. Start to talk about the structure of the songs or the production is a really bad point for a noel gallagher lp. He said himself, fuck the lyricks, just care about the melody! |
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 16, 2015 12:02:11 GMT -5
I'd like to dedicate this song to you, Riverman
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