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Post by joladella on Dec 21, 2015 15:56:34 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying but then on that same theme Oasis were never marketed as a lyric based or emotional band, with Noel's lyrics questioned even in early UK music press releases for Supersonic and particularly Shakermaker. With Adele from what I have heard and also read in reviews appears to be trying to come across on those themes which would suggest an attempt at meaningful lyrics, but falling at that hurdle IMO when compared to contemporary R n' B/Soul artists- There is an article from Eurweb that laments this fact, although I do disagree somewhat on the 'white privilege' argument they also attempt to make when referring to Adele's radio and music television playlist support. Fair enough, if seen like that! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 25, 2015 12:58:00 GMT -5
#56
1-4-6-10-16-17-19-13-12-14-14-22-30-29-27-21-33-42-43-32-34-33-40-46-46-39-38-61-79-X-97-95-X-62-39-56-85-80-74-70-58-50-56
Tied DBTT for weeks on chart
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 25, 2015 16:12:37 GMT -5
#56 1-4-6-10-16-17-19-13-12-14-14-22-30-29-27-21-33-42-43-32-34-33-40-46-46-39-38-61-79-X-97-95-X-62-39-56-85-80-74-70-58-50-56 Tied DBTT for weeks on chart Oh really? Curious what the difference in overall sales numbers are comparing 2005 to 2015. |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 25, 2015 17:16:17 GMT -5
#56 1-4-6-10-16-17-19-13-12-14-14-22-30-29-27-21-33-42-43-32-34-33-40-46-46-39-38-61-79-X-97-95-X-62-39-56-85-80-74-70-58-50-56 Tied DBTT for weeks on chart Oh really? Curious what the difference in overall sales numbers are comparing 2005 to 2015. adele beat everything on any year on the charts so the backwards 'excuse's' have no argument pretty much have to go like for like regardless.. even the 'marketing' spend people arguments aren't relevant BHN was promoted everywhere ... weeks on chart nice but like you say / maybe implying being in the top 60-100 nowadays is literally nothing vs being on charts then guessing be a bit more? anyway merry xmas  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 25, 2015 18:28:12 GMT -5
#56 1-4-6-10-16-17-19-13-12-14-14-22-30-29-27-21-33-42-43-32-34-33-40-46-46-39-38-61-79-X-97-95-X-62-39-56-85-80-74-70-58-50-56 Tied DBTT for weeks on chart Oh really? Curious what the difference in overall sales numbers are comparing 2005 to 2015. The difference is pretty big even tho there are some artists like Adele or Ed Sheeran that still manage to sell a shitload of records But DBTT was on another level in terms of general success compared to CY anyway That,of course,doesn't take anything away from the fact that it's cool to see Noel having a nice run in the charts basically 20 years past his prime...for me at least  |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 25, 2015 18:37:37 GMT -5
Oh really? Curious what the difference in overall sales numbers are comparing 2005 to 2015. The difference is pretty big even tho there are some artists like Adele or Ed Sheeran that still manage to sell a shitload of records But DBTT was on another level in terms of general success compared to CY anyway That,of course,doesn't take anything away from the fact that it's cool to see Noel having a nice run in the charts basically 20 years past his prime...for me at least irrelevant ɪˈrɛlɪv(ə)nt/Submit adjective not connected with or relevant to something. to this this is probably patronising .. even tho its meant to be.. not you personally but you are the only reason i come to this forum.. updates are cool.. but seeing the fans re generate is amazing! Oasis keep regenerating younger fans and that is their legacy! love it! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 25, 2015 19:00:51 GMT -5
The difference is pretty big even tho there are some artists like Adele or Ed Sheeran that still manage to sell a shitload of records But DBTT was on another level in terms of general success compared to CY anyway That,of course,doesn't take anything away from the fact that it's cool to see Noel having a nice run in the charts basically 20 years past his prime...for me at least irrelevant ɪˈrɛlɪv(ə)nt/Submit adjective not connected with or relevant to something. to this this is probably patronising .. even tho its meant to be.. not you personally but you are the only reason i come to this forum.. updates are cool.. but seeing the fans re generate is amazing! Oasis keep regenerating younger fans and that is their legacy! love it! And believe me it's as cool for me as it is for you...it's cool to find young fans on the internet from all over the world who love Oasis and the Gallaghers as much as I do,it's cool to see them at gigs,it's cool to know I'm not the only one |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2015 19:40:46 GMT -5
Not trying to offend anyone by making generalisations but in my mind the type of person who buys an Adele album maybe isn't the most tech savvy individual, I'm thinking along the lines of people like my Mum, not saying young people aren't into Adele as well but I think broadly speaking it's a slightly different demographic, I class myself as a massive Oasis fan but I only bought NGHFB and BE, never bought DGSS or CY, I just *ahem* downloaded them (and not from iTunes...) I don't see the point in buying them now anyway because I have Spotify, it's not like I need to support a struggling artist, neither of them are short of a few bob, even if the Daily Mail did scoff at Liam's worth in the divorce settlement. A mere £5.5mil, the poor lamb.
tl;dr I think Gallagher fans are more likely to apply a five digit digital discount than Adele fans.
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Post by space75gr on Dec 27, 2015 17:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by noelygthelegend on Dec 27, 2015 18:03:15 GMT -5
irrelevant ɪˈrɛlɪv(ə)nt/Submit adjective not connected with or relevant to something. to this this is probably patronising .. even tho its meant to be.. not you personally but you are the only reason i come to this forum.. updates are cool.. but seeing the fans re generate is amazing! Oasis keep regenerating younger fans and that is their legacy! love it! And believe me it's as cool for me as it is for you...it's cool to find young fans on the internet from all over the world who love Oasis and the Gallaghers as much as I do,it's cool to see them at gigs,it's cool to know I'm not the only one I'm 14 but great music is great music Definitely maybe was released 21 years ago and its my favourite ever record and noel is a living legend musically don't know him as a person but think he's pretty cool. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Dec 27, 2015 18:05:24 GMT -5
Come on Jeff, you can easily beat that sellout Rod Stewart! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 27, 2015 18:10:47 GMT -5
Wow........ELO outsold Noel with almost 8 full months head start? Wild.
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Post by batfink30 on Dec 27, 2015 18:13:32 GMT -5
Wow........ELO outsold Noel with almost 8 full months head start? Wild. It's not "ELO", it's "Jeff Lynn's ELO" lol. That's is pretty crazy, the ELO album is ok, was listening to it last week but it's no way better than CY. |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 18:16:46 GMT -5
Wow........ELO outsold Noel with almost 8 full months head start? Wild. yeah if that chart is right than 'his xmas offensive' really really fell flat as everyone else sold a lot in this period. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 27, 2015 18:42:16 GMT -5
Wow........ELO outsold Noel with almost 8 full months head start? Wild. yeah if that chart is right than 'his xmas offensive' really really fell flat as everyone else sold a lot in this period. It did I mean it kept him in the charts and that's good,but I guess he (or at least his management) expected to sell a bit more On the other hand TDOTL had absolutely zero promotion,so God only knows what the fuck they're doing |
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Post by andybellwillring on Dec 27, 2015 18:49:07 GMT -5
Wow........ELO outsold Noel with almost 8 full months head start? Wild. It's not "ELO", it's "Jeff Lynn's ELO" lol. That's is pretty crazy, the ELO album is ok, was listening to it last week but it's no way better than CY. I'm thrilled Jeff is doing well and that the comeback is getting the reception it deserves but I agree, the album in itself is nothing special apart from a few standout tracks; feels more like the Traveling Wilburys with added orchestra than classic ELO. |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 18:49:47 GMT -5
yeah if that chart is right than 'his xmas offensive' really really fell flat as everyone else sold a lot in this period. It did I mean it kept him in the charts and that's good,but I guess he (or at least his management) expected to sell a bit more On the other hand TDOTL had absolutely zero promotion,so God only knows what the fuck they're doing edit.. sorry it did.. missed that  The fact he did release a single out; track of week on r2, the esquire mag, all the other 'press' quotes, the whole day (as such on r2)on radio 2, radio gig, iplayer gig which had own promotion, tv adverts for chasing yesterday(which did mention new latest single TDOTL), one of 'his' songs being on the biggest xmas adverst, the radio x and RAH gigs, announcing a tour etc.. Obv i dont look for others promotion but guessing as a whole he had a lot of overall promotion which others didnt? i dont think that chart is right as say someone like meighan trainor for example was sort of neck and neck with him and in last 2 months really shot ahead and she's not had song out for 4-5 months / any press or anything is crazy :/ |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 27, 2015 18:58:02 GMT -5
The fuck are they doing?
I swear that if it wasn't for this forum, I wouldn't have a clue about what he's putting out.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 27, 2015 18:59:40 GMT -5
It did I mean it kept him in the charts and that's good,but I guess he (or at least his management) expected to sell a bit more On the other hand TDOTL had absolutely zero promotion,so God only knows what the fuck they're doing edit.. sorry it did.. missed that The fact he did release a single out; track of week on r2, the esquire mag, all the other 'press' quotes, the whole day (as such on r2)on radio 2, radio gig, iplayer gig which had own promotion, tv adverts for chasing yesterday(which did mention new latest single TDOTL), one of 'his' songs being on the biggest xmas adverst, the radio x and RAH gigs, announcing a tour etc.. Obv i dont look for others promotion but guessing as a whole he had a lot of overall promotion which others didnt? i dont think that chart is right as say someone like meighan trainor for example was sort of neck and neck with him and in last 2 months really shot ahead and she's not had song out for 4-5 months / any press or anything is crazy :/ Meighan has that song with Charlie Puth that has been a huge hit this year,but yeah I get what you're saying As for the promotion I was talking more about the track itself,they didn't even put a video out... I agree with you anyway they probably expected the album to sell more during this period but their strategy failed I guess the problem is that they were trying to sell the album to an audience that has already bought it (Radio 2),so the chance to get that platinum disc (which is probably Noel and his management's real goal at this point) will come if he gets nominated/wins something at the Brits and wins something at the NME Awards,and then hopefully the tour (that somehow always manages to boost album sales) and the festivals season (assuming that he's headlining) will do the rest |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 19:09:17 GMT -5
edit.. sorry it did.. missed that The fact he did release a single out; track of week on r2, the esquire mag, all the other 'press' quotes, the whole day (as such on r2)on radio 2, radio gig, iplayer gig which had own promotion, tv adverts for chasing yesterday(which did mention new latest single TDOTL), one of 'his' songs being on the biggest xmas adverst, the radio x and RAH gigs, announcing a tour etc.. Obv i dont look for others promotion but guessing as a whole he had a lot of overall promotion which others didnt? i dont think that chart is right as say someone like meighan trainor for example was sort of neck and neck with him and in last 2 months really shot ahead and she's not had song out for 4-5 months / any press or anything is crazy :/ Meighan has that song with Charlie Puth that has been a huge hit this year,but yeah I get what you're saying As for the promotion I was talking more about the track itself,they didn't even put a video out... I agree with you anyway they probably expected the album to sell more during this period but their strategy failed I guess the problem is that they were trying to sell the album to an audience that has already bought it (Radio 2),so the chance to get that platinum disc (which is probably Noel and his management's real goal at this point) will come if he gets nominated/wins something at the Brits and wins something at the NME Awards,and then hopefully the tour (that somehow always manages to boost album sales) and the festivals season (assuming that he's headlining) will do the rest r2 has 16 million listeners per week and is the biggest radio station in uk so they knew what audience they were aiming at and as we know very small proportion of that figure has bought his album. Im sure radio X while much much smaller got a huge prospensity of potential buyers for a gallagher too. They like the NME you guaranteed they'll have a 'gallagher pic' / thing literally every day on their social media.. idk all irrelevant is what it is.. maybe festivals will gain momentum this year but didnt last year. brit awards should see a spike in theory tho. like we always say to be top 20 at this stage in career at least puts him on par with rod stewart, elo, as a 'heritage act' and still up with some of the 'real' music contemporaries so all good! |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 19:15:31 GMT -5
The fuck are they doing? I swear that if it wasn't for this forum, I wouldn't have a clue about what he's putting out. really? his social media quite active and i always gets emails from mailing lists etc? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 27, 2015 19:24:57 GMT -5
The fuck are they doing? I swear that if it wasn't for this forum, I wouldn't have a clue about what he's putting out. really? his social media quite active and i always gets emails from mailing lists etc? If it wasn't for this forum I'm not even sure I would think of looking on Twitter or Facebook, which I hardly ever do anything with anyway. Mailing list? What's that, like a newsletter or something? |
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 19:34:13 GMT -5
Idk when ever you buy anything or enter a comp it signs you up. Sure you had to watch the FB thing too?
Think prior oasis sign ups send Noel stuff, ie if ever registered on any of gallagher websites.
Anyway just an email saying this is coming out basically.
Not sure nowadays where you except info to come from? All the typical music sites still cover releases and tour dates etc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 19:39:24 GMT -5
Wow both of the above. Are just TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL THEY DONT DONT DO TWITTER OR FB. WOW .....YOUR SO AVANTE GARDE ......WHAT WOULDA BEEN COOLER IS IF YOU BOTH DONT SEE THE NEED TO ALWys mention it Both of you must enjoy a Slovakian beer together You'll be the only ones who " get it "". Jokes
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Post by jaq515 on Dec 27, 2015 20:06:53 GMT -5
Wow both of the above. Are just TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL THEY DONT DONT DO TWITTER OR FB. WOW .....YOUR SO AVANTE GARDE ......WHAT WOULDA BEEN COOLER IS IF YOU BOTH DONT SEE THE NEED TO ALWys mention it Both of you must enjoy a Slovakian beer together You'll be the only ones who " get it "". Jokes Don't see me for one saying any of that? The dr says doesn't really say anything but doesn't really use it. Not really seen her go on about it either? |
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