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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2014 11:08:25 GMT -5
I'd agree 25-30 is the safe bet.
There's just no way to tell how well the vinyl has sold. All we know is that it's one of top 10 vinyls out right now. You just hope that's enough to push him up a bit once the downloads fall off on iTunes. He needs to stay I'd say top 30 for the next 48 hours to assure himself a Top 30 placing. That combination of downloads and physical vinyl sales should be enough.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 17, 2014 11:37:59 GMT -5
Is Noel performing on TV at all this week? Probably not though right?
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Post by zatine87 on Nov 17, 2014 12:45:54 GMT -5
In the heat of the moment is at #177 in the Norway iTunes Chart. Not sure whether any of the High Flying Birds songs ever charted.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2014 13:05:20 GMT -5
Is Noel performing on TV at all this week? Probably not though right? Probably not, but he should. He has a TV appearance on Johnathan Ross on Saturday, but that will only help him so much. He may have a last three hour push because of it, but that's it. He really needs something in the middle of the week. As much as I'd like to believe he'll stay on top 20 of iTunes, he'll probably fall out of the top 20 by midday tomorrow. If not sooner. He needs something midweek to keep sales from sagging. I think he probably has 2-3k in vinyl sales. 3k at most. He'll need to match that in mp3 sales to have a decent charting. And when I say decent I mean 6k might be enough to squeak into the top 40. However, if he can stay in the iTunes top 40 throughout the week, then the math says he may have a decent chance at top 30. But that only happens if he finds some way to stabilize himself on iTunes.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 17, 2014 13:26:51 GMT -5
I find it strange that he's not scheduled any appearance to at the very least, play the new single live. Even an acoustic performance on radio of the song is better than nothing.
He should have played a small set of 3 songs, In The Heat of The Moment, and then either 1 from HFB and Do The Damage or 2 from HFB.
Completely missed opportunity if it doesn't happen in the next few days.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 17, 2014 13:34:59 GMT -5
I guess that will be done with Ballad Of The Mighty I, it's like we should consider that as the lead single
Anyway I hope he does something like a few radio interviews/tv appareances during this week, I seriously doubt he'll stay in the top 20 anyway, even if he's probably the only artist to sell a good number of vinyls in the charts right now, but top 30 would be good
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Post by spaneli on Nov 17, 2014 19:06:39 GMT -5
Currently In the Heat of the Moment is:
#18 on Itunes #27 on Amazon (mp3 format) #9 on Amazon for vinyl sales (for new releases. #14 for overall)
Do the Damage:
#24 on Itunes #87 on Amazon (mp3 format)
I wonder how many vinyls have been sold through Noel's store.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 18, 2014 1:17:18 GMT -5
Do The Damage #23 again
ITHOTM here in Italy is surprisingly at #35, it was #46 yesterday morning
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 18, 2014 3:15:57 GMT -5
When I checked yesterday it wasn't even in the top 100 yet in the NL.
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 3:26:57 GMT -5
Not so good on Spotify:
ITHOTM: 14,338 DTD: 3,584
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 9:21:12 GMT -5
UK itunes:
In the Heat of the Moment: #18 Do the Damage #26
Amazon mp3:
In the Heat of the Moment #20 Do the Damage #61
Vinyl:
#10 for new releases #22 in overall vinyl sales
I'm suprised he's performing this well download wise. I was sure I'd wake up today with him out of the Top 20. He'll probably be out of there tomorrow, but for now he's holding up well. His issue is the drop in vinyl sale position. He will need those sales. For now he's doing everything he needs to do for a Top 20, but it's a long week. Midweek charts will be interesting when they come out, at least we'll know where he stands.
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 9:27:51 GMT -5
Best Sellers in Vinyl (Amazon UK) 1. The Endless River 2. Cream: 1966 - 1972 3. In the Heat of the Moment
So, Do the Damage will probably become the highest charting b-side by the High Flying Birds?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 18, 2014 11:14:25 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, he's doing quite well in the UK?
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 11:18:24 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, he's doing quite well in the UK? Yes. The Death of you and me did better, but it's ok. ITHOTM is the #2 most played song on the most popular radio in England. Also Do the Damage is doing extremely well. After 3 days it's at #26 on iTunes, which is impressive for a b-side.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 11:51:15 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, he's doing quite well in the UK? Yes. The Death of you and me did better, but it's ok. ITHOTM is the #2 most played song on the most popular radio in England. Also Do the Damage is doing extremely well. After 3 days it's at #26 on iTunes, which is impressive for a b-side. It's now #27 I think you're jumping the gun on Do the Damage. ITunes makes up a good percentage, but it's not the whole picture. There's still amazon where just yesterday Do the Damage was only #87 on the mp3 chart and it will be competing against singles that have actually been physically released. ITunes might be a decent size of the pie, maybe 50%, but in the other areas, Do the Damage is seriously lagging. I'd be surprised of it cracked the top 50. Might even be surprised at the Top 75. Three days in the top 30 of iTunes won't he enough to sustain, especially after it drops. Which it will. It may even plummet out of iTunes top 40 in the next 24-48 hours. In essence, iTunes won't be enough to sustain a chart position.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 11:59:14 GMT -5
Also, Noel is #16 in the midweeks. He will not remain in the top 20, unless there's a miracle.
Top 25 is definitely still viable. But he probably at least has top 30. Shouldn't be too bad a charting for a single that was played 5 weeks ago and doesn't really a typical single format for downloading. Shows Noel still has extremely strong fan base to pull out this kind of a performance. This bodes very well for album sales.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 18, 2014 12:00:17 GMT -5
UK itunes: In the Heat of the Moment: #18 Do the Damage #26 Amazon mp3: In the Heat of the Moment #20 Do the Damage #61 Vinyl: #10 for new releases #22 in overall vinyl sales I'm suprised he's performing this well download wise. I was sure I'd wake up today with him out of the Top 20. He'll probably be out of there tomorrow, but for now he's holding up well. His issue is the drop in vinyl sale position. He will need those sales. For now he's doing everything he needs to do for a Top 20, but it's a long week. Midweek charts will be interesting when they come out, at least we'll know where he stands. So how are all the other artists who could potentially be in the Top 20 come Monday keep their numbers up? Is it simply younger, more hip music doing the hard work? Always seems like the Gallagher bros gotta fight tooth and nail for a decent chart performance meanwhile some 20 year old can easily land in the top 10 doing noting. I could be completely off base as well.
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 12:16:09 GMT -5
Yes. The Death of you and me did better, but it's ok. ITHOTM is the #2 most played song on the most popular radio in England. Also Do the Damage is doing extremely well. After 3 days it's at #26 on iTunes, which is impressive for a b-side. It's now #27 I think you're jumping the gun on Do the Damage. ITunes makes up a good percentage, but it's not the whole picture. There's still amazon where just yesterday Do the Damage was only #87 on the mp3 chart and it will be competing against singles that have actually been physically released. ITunes might be a decent size of the pie, maybe 50%, but in the other areas, Do the Damage is seriously lagging. I'd be surprised of it cracked the top 50. Might even be surprised at the Top 75. Three days in the top 30 of iTunes won't he enough to sustain, especially after it drops. Which it will. It may even plummet out of iTunes top 40 in the next 24-48 hours. In essence, iTunes won't be enough to sustain a chart position. Okay, but it's still great for a b-side. I don't even know if Let the lord shine a light on me or The good Rebel charted at all on Itunes EDIT: The Good Rebel charted only two days at #93 on iTunes. So, Do the Damage is doing very well on iTunes. I'm not saying that it'll reach #1, but top 75 is likely, imho.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 18, 2014 12:38:25 GMT -5
UK itunes: In the Heat of the Moment: #18 Do the Damage #26 Amazon mp3: In the Heat of the Moment #20 Do the Damage #61 Vinyl: #10 for new releases #22 in overall vinyl sales I'm suprised he's performing this well download wise. I was sure I'd wake up today with him out of the Top 20. He'll probably be out of there tomorrow, but for now he's holding up well. His issue is the drop in vinyl sale position. He will need those sales. For now he's doing everything he needs to do for a Top 20, but it's a long week. Midweek charts will be interesting when they come out, at least we'll know where he stands. So how are all the other artists who could potentially be in the Top 20 come Monday keep their numbers up? Is it simply younger, more hip music doing the hard work? Always seems like the Gallagher bros gotta fight tooth and nail for a decent chart performance meanwhile some 20 year old can easily land in the top 10 doing noting. I could be completely off base as well. I was surprised to find Oasis haven't had any top50 hits here after D'You Know What I mean, I think, nor did any Beady Eye or NGHFB songs, while some shit like Ariana Grande or Sam Smith comes in in the top 5 without any trouble out of the blue and never leaves.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 12:40:03 GMT -5
UK itunes: In the Heat of the Moment: #18 Do the Damage #26 Amazon mp3: In the Heat of the Moment #20 Do the Damage #61 Vinyl: #10 for new releases #22 in overall vinyl sales I'm suprised he's performing this well download wise. I was sure I'd wake up today with him out of the Top 20. He'll probably be out of there tomorrow, but for now he's holding up well. His issue is the drop in vinyl sale position. He will need those sales. For now he's doing everything he needs to do for a Top 20, but it's a long week. Midweek charts will be interesting when they come out, at least we'll know where he stands. So how are all the other artists who could potentially be in the Top 20 come Monday keep their numbers up? Is it simply younger, more hip music doing the hard work? Always seems like the Gallagher bros gotta fight tooth and nail for a decent chart performance meanwhile some 20 year old can easily land in the top 10 doing noting. I could be completely off base as well. Honestly he's lucky to be #16 in midweeks right now. He's releasing a single that got radio play five weeks ago, there's technically no downloadable single package (just downloadable album tracks that count toward the singles charts), he hasn't done any live television or even radio performances, and his only physical release is a vinyl release when most people don't have vinyl record players. He's charting well right now in the midweeks based on name, radioplay, and quality of the song alone. The fact that he'll probably get a top 30 out of this, maybe a top 25 is outstanding. Hell, the idea of him having an outside shot at Top 20 is amazing. And honestly, it's not like Noel is Beady Eye. I could possibly understand Beady Eye toward the end not caring how the single would do because they were fucked anyways. But it's clear that Noel still has the capacity and has an audience large enough for top 10 singles. He just hasn't put all the pieces together. I always felt it was mistake for him not to have the pre-order up for TDOYAM until a few days later (should have bee up the night of the video premiere), I thought he lost a top 10 because of that. The staggered physical and digital release of WAL lost him another top 10. And to be honest, with this performance and how strongly it seems In the Heat of the Moment has been received, he might have had a top 10 here if he had gone all out and done his typical single build-up. I guess we'll have to wait for Ballad of the Might I. But for the circumstances Noel put himself into, this charting for In the Heat of the Moment will be a win.
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Post by zatine87 on Nov 18, 2014 12:43:47 GMT -5
In the heat of the moment is at #177 in the Norway iTunes Chart. Not sure whether any of the High Flying Birds songs ever charted. Edit: It is #134, and seems to be rising. Don't know how that happened, haven't heard it on the radio at all.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 12:49:25 GMT -5
In the heat of the moment is at #177 in the Norway iTunes Chart. Not sure whether any of the High Flying Birds songs ever charted. Edit: It is #134, and seems to be rising. Don't know how that happened, haven't heard it on the radio at all. Two more people bought it?
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Post by zatine87 on Nov 18, 2014 12:58:14 GMT -5
Edit: It is #134, and seems to be rising. Don't know how that happened, haven't heard it on the radio at all. Two more people bought it? Hehe
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Post by spaneli on Nov 18, 2014 13:05:12 GMT -5
In the Heat of the Moment is current #19 on both Itunes and Amazon mp3 Do the Damage is #27 on Itunes and #49 on Amazon mp3 (it's risen 38 positions since yesterday)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 18, 2014 13:14:28 GMT -5
So if Noel lands a Top 20 single in the UK are we all popping champagne bottles next Monday?
#TheTimesTheyAreAChanging
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