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Post by lamboasis on Mar 25, 2015 14:15:08 GMT -5
By the way, we were moaning about Noel's singles chart. Look at Blur: First single "Go Out" charted at #182. And I bet they won't even sell 80k album in the first week I don't wanna jinx it now,I thought James Bay was going to break his record for the fastest selling album of the year,but after the midweek update I'm not too sure anymore Noel's nearly 48,he's past his prime and on an Indie label,but he's actually quite big/relevant,especially if compared to other rock n roll acts Absolutely, in the Rock/Indie Rock he's on the top of the bill. And thank god it's not just an opinion, he's up there for a fact. With the sales of NGHFB (Coldplay, AM and Kings of leon did better than him since 2010) and headlining slots at T in the Park and other festivals It's a little bit sad for the british rock music though. If they need a 48 year old (even if he's the biggest songwriter of the last 20 years) to keep sales up there's a big problem |
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Post by themagpie on Mar 28, 2015 14:41:13 GMT -5
Ireland
Chasing Yesterday 1-2-5-10
4 weeks
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds re entry 88
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Post by gdforever on Mar 28, 2015 14:51:30 GMT -5
Global Album chart #11 - 51K sold in second week of wide release 15+143+51=209K sold worldwide so far 3rd week of wide release 31K #22 in the world Worldwide 240K in 4 weeks |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 28, 2015 15:45:44 GMT -5
Global Album chart #11 - 51K sold in second week of wide release 15+143+51=209K sold worldwide so far 3rd week of wide release 31K #22 in the world Worldwide 240K in 4 weeks I have no idea whether this is good or not. |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 28, 2015 16:21:11 GMT -5
3rd week of wide release 31K #22 in the world Worldwide 240K in 4 weeks I have no idea whether this is good or not. Did he sold the double of that in the same period with the first solo album? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 28, 2015 17:29:50 GMT -5
I have no idea whether this is good or not. Did he sold the double of that in the same period with the first solo album? I've got no idea |
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 29, 2015 4:26:42 GMT -5
NGHFB 2011
1st week: 170k
2nd week: 108k
3rd week: 61k
Yes, NGHFB did better but it's normal. Last time he did more promotion and the market isn't going that good
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 29, 2015 5:07:14 GMT -5
No indeed, that's 4 years ago already. Loads has changed now.
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Mar 29, 2015 8:02:17 GMT -5
NGHFB 2011 1st week: 170k 2nd week: 108k 3rd week: 61k Yes, NGHFB did better but it's normal. Last time he did more promotion and the market isn't going that good The debut is a better album overall then CY. B-sides included. CY is very good but lacking in something. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 29, 2015 8:24:41 GMT -5
NGHFB 2011 1st week: 170k 2nd week: 108k 3rd week: 61k Yes, NGHFB did better but it's normal. Last time he did more promotion and the market isn't going that good The debut is a better album overall then CY. B-sides included. CY is very good but lacking in something. I think CY is a better record actually,at first I thought my love for it was just cause I was overly excited to finally have new music from Noel,but after a month it's growing on me day after day,it's a brilliant record from start to finish |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 29, 2015 8:59:23 GMT -5
Diminishing returns in music is not unusual regardless of the quality of the music. Bands or artists often enter a phase like this. Not liking its doing bad anyway.
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Post by Sternumman on Mar 29, 2015 9:16:55 GMT -5
NGHFB 2011 1st week: 170k 2nd week: 108k 3rd week: 61k Yes, NGHFB did better but it's normal. Last time he did more promotion and the market isn't going that good The debut is a better album overall then CY. B-sides included. CY is very good but lacking in something. I'm not saying you are wrong but it's not the popular opinion on here. |
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Post by icebreath on Mar 29, 2015 9:23:48 GMT -5
CY is better album as a whole but NGHFB had better singles.
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 29, 2015 9:31:08 GMT -5
Guys Noel is doing well, really. Let's see how many copies Blur and Muse will sell. I bet not many more than him (Blur less, Muse probably a little bit more, and only because of the promotion). Noel is under an independent label, his own label, he'll never spend a lot of money to promote the album, that's it. And according to Company Check the label is doing quite well: companycheck.co.uk/company/04112932/SOUR-MASH-RECORDS-LIMITED |
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 29, 2015 9:35:20 GMT -5
Guys Noel is doing well, really. Let's see how many copies Blur and Muse will sell. I bet not many more than him (Blur less, Muse probably a little bit more, and only because of the promotion). Noel is under an independent label, his own label, he'll never spend a lot of money to promote the album, that's it. And according to Company Check the label is doing quite well: companycheck.co.uk/company/04112932/SOUR-MASH-RECORDS-LIMITEDThat blur album will sell very well I think, it's their first album for 12 years! I'll certainly be buying it |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 10:15:24 GMT -5
reading alot in this thread about how his lack of promotion especially compared to his last is a big reason for the dip in sales and why in usa its basically off the grid
Don't know if I buy that don't get me wrong it may have some merit , but shouldnt legends like noel especially in the uk (its a much smaller country size wise than usa ) shouldn't most of the music lovers who by albums know he is releasing it ?
If say gnr in america got back with slash and hardly promoted it would still debut at 1 and go multi platinum
My opinion is it has much more to do with older fans not on this forum not interested in a solo project by either brother for better or worse they want a Oasis lp not a solo , just like america didnt eat up slash's snakepit like they would a gnr reunion lp
Think older fans are sorta indifferent about solo stuff and the kids just download , but I personally don't think noels promotion or lack there of should be a factor , his name alone should be promotion enough imo . just dont feel that should be a valid reason for perceived poor sales and I don't think noel touring will dramatically push it back up it may go up a bit but I think the numbers are just that the people who wanted it already copped it imo
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 29, 2015 10:23:40 GMT -5
reading alot in this thread about how his lack of promotion especially compared to his last is a big reason for the dip in sales and why in usa its basically off the grid Don't know if I buy that don't get me wrong it may have some merit , but shouldnt legends like noel especially in the uk (its a much smaller country size wise than usa ) shouldn't most of the music lovers who by albums know he is releasing it ? If say gnr in america got back with slash and hardly promoted it would still debut at 1 and go multi platinum My opinion is it has much more to do with older fans not on this forum not interested in a solo project by either brother for better or worse they want a Oasis lp not a solo , just like america didnt eat up slash's snakepit like they would a gnr reunion lp Think older fans are sorta indifferent about solo stuff and the kids just download , but I personally don't think noels promotion or lack there of should be a factor , his name alone should be promotion enough imo . just dont feel that should be a valid reason for perceived poor sales and I don't think noel touring will dramatically push it back up it may go up a bit but I think the numbers are just that the people who wanted it already copped it imo And he's doing well in the UK  The album will go platinum and he still has a couple of singles in the bag and he's headlining a few festivals,that will help his sales |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 10:29:44 GMT -5
reading alot in this thread about how his lack of promotion especially compared to his last is a big reason for the dip in sales and why in usa its basically off the grid Don't know if I buy that don't get me wrong it may have some merit , but shouldnt legends like noel especially in the uk (its a much smaller country size wise than usa ) shouldn't most of the music lovers who by albums know he is releasing it ? If say gnr in america got back with slash and hardly promoted it would still debut at 1 and go multi platinum My opinion is it has much more to do with older fans not on this forum not interested in a solo project by either brother for better or worse they want a Oasis lp not a solo , just like america didnt eat up slash's snakepit like they would a gnr reunion lp Think older fans are sorta indifferent about solo stuff and the kids just download , but I personally don't think noels promotion or lack there of should be a factor , his name alone should be promotion enough imo . just dont feel that should be a valid reason for perceived poor sales and I don't think noel touring will dramatically push it back up it may go up a bit but I think the numbers are just that the people who wanted it already copped it imo And he's doing well in the UK I DID NOT SAY HE WASNT I said what people here are posting , lack of promotion is reason its not performing as well as ngfhb not saying noel is not doing well , but I dont think his lack of promotion should effect sales cause he is a legend . Just think the people who bought it already bought it and kids will download , dont see where he will pick up steam if he promoted more thats all , hes doing well in uk but not as well as the last and people are citing promotion ,I dont buy that simple as |
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 29, 2015 10:40:34 GMT -5
Radio play would make a huge difference, if Dying Of The Light got played on Heart for example he would sell a shitload of records off of it. Otherwise, I think you genuinely couldn't expect any more from an indie artist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 10:46:19 GMT -5
Radio play would make a huge difference, if Dying Of The Light got played on Heart for example he would sell a shitload of records off of it. Otherwise, I think you genuinely couldn't expect any more from an indie artist. see that makes sense , but again indie or not think its a shame a legend whether he is on a indie label or not is not getting alot of radio play in the usa i can understand he isnt getting alot play in uk ? thats just wrong guess the radio buisness is long gone in the 70s and 80s plenty of indie artists were played , then "discoverd" by labels REM comes right mind but there were plenty others for radio not to play noel cause he is indie is ludicrous |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 29, 2015 10:53:24 GMT -5
He's getting airplay from Radio 2 (or at least he was when the singles came out)
and alternative stations like XFM and Absolute Radio, not from Radio 1 and the rest as apparently he's "too old"
Noel's got a solid and quite big fanbase so his releases will always do well, what made the difference last time were casual fans which he gained with promotion and with a successful single like What A Life
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 11:00:55 GMT -5
He's getting airplay from Radio 2 (or at least he was when the singles came out) and alternative stations like XFM and Absolute Radio, not from Radio 1 and the rest as apparently he's "too old" Noel's got a solid and quite big fanbase so his releases will always do well, what made the difference last time were casual fans which he gained with promotion and with a successful single like What A Life a better single certainly helped absolutely agree  but I cant get on board vwith promotion , sorry to me thats a exuse maybe people downloaded first and felt the first was better ? so why buy? just dont feel at his age and with his legend , and the fact that nme and all the uk music mags wrote about him that there is all the promotion a legend should need imo |
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 29, 2015 11:06:15 GMT -5
He's getting airplay from Radio 2 (or at least he was when the singles came out) and alternative stations like XFM and Absolute Radio, not from Radio 1 and the rest as apparently he's "too old" Noel's got a solid and quite big fanbase so his releases will always do well, what made the difference last time were casual fans which he gained with promotion and with a successful single like What A Life This Is exactly right the lack of promotion or lack of AirPlay is rubbish they have been solid. Again agreeing completely the reason HFB was successful is cos it picked up the casual non fans along the way with variety of singles. What a life is an amazing song and 'hit' then the rest of singles EOTR, IIHAG, DO all had that casual quality. I do say this a lot and this isn't negative, it was a tactic as it sold better than expected but the album dropped to £5 pretty fast too so causal picked that up on the strength of the 'single' instead of the single |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 11:12:11 GMT -5
He's getting airplay from Radio 2 (or at least he was when the singles came out) and alternative stations like XFM and Absolute Radio, not from Radio 1 and the rest as apparently he's "too old" Noel's got a solid and quite big fanbase so his releases will always do well, what made the difference last time were casual fans which he gained with promotion and with a successful single like What A Life This Is exactly right the lack of promotion or lack of AirPlay is rubbish they have been solid. Again agreeing completely the reason HFB was successful is cos it picked up the casual non fans along the way with variety of singles. What a life is an amazing song and 'hit' then the rest of singles EOTR, IIHAG, DO all had that casual quality. I do say this a lot and this isn't negative, it was a tactic as it sold better than expected but the album dropped to £5 pretty fast too so causal picked that up on the strength of the 'single' instead of the single well i know you know more than me on this topc my friend , so guess im wrong or what you need to do to chart has changed zep never released a single ever and didnt promote alot never hurt them on chart guess times change , imo not for the better noel shouldnt have to schill to sell hes better than that |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 29, 2015 11:40:05 GMT -5
Noel peaked at #8 here which is better than the #11 with the last album, but he might have sold a lot more when he peaked at #11 the last time than he has now at #8. Sales have dropped. I wouldn't be surprised if CY only sold half of what HFB sold, especially since it hasn't been promoted as much and doesn't have the kind of single WAL was. I was hoping Mighty I would be that single, but alas, it was not, even though I think it's a better song than WAL.
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