Banksy
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Post by Banksy on Mar 18, 2015 15:50:22 GMT -5
Personally don't care if everyone likes Noel or not, more & more people hated Oasis after 1998, so what. As a fan I want Noel to be writing top music and he is. I doubt Noel cares about sales now, he's sold f loads of records already, he's done the stadium tours etc, I don't know the man but I'm sure he is more bothered that his fans appreciate his music. Agree totally. I don't really care about charts and not bothered by singles either. It's more about Live and touring...that's where the money is these days anyway. I see noel multiple times a tour and that's what matters to me I don't care about chartings and stats as much as I did as a younger man, and the death of charts, sales, albums, interest and relevance of real music has made it so much easier to not be bothered about such things. The days of tactile albums/records/sleeve notes are over and there is no sense of worth or nostalgia or bonding with musicians or their works anymore. I can not see (at this juncture) any album or artist changing or being a soundtrack to somebody's life without the journey. That being said I still take a certain amount of satisfaction when Noel charts well. Is it the be all and end all for me as it once was? No. Do I feel the need to promote/defend Noel's work to people who don't get it and never will as I used to? No. But it's nice to see good reviews, good press and good sales isn't it? Well it is for me at this point in my life anyway. Peace.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 16:06:21 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. Fuck off out the thread then. No need to be nasty mate, I was just asking a question.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 18, 2015 16:12:39 GMT -5
Fuck off out the thread then. No need to be nasty mate, I was just asking a question. You just spilled my pint!
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 18, 2015 16:30:14 GMT -5
I kind of feel like people use "Charts aren't important" excuse only whenever an artist they like doesn't chart well or to their expectations.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 18, 2015 16:39:59 GMT -5
I kind of feel like people use "Charts aren't important" excuse only whenever an artist they like doesn't chart well or to their expectations. I sort of agree because if Noel was doing what the likes of Ed Sheeran and Sam Smith are doing now then it's so much easier to like something when the going is good but I think the fact of the matter now is that the whole dynamic of what was once classified as the charts has shifted beyond recognition, nobody cares or at least very few do because there is very little recognition or reward for being number one in a chart that doesn't matter anymore. Video killed the radio star....
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 16:43:53 GMT -5
I absolutely haven't got a clue what's currently #1 over here, neither in the singles chart nor in the album chart
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 16:44:57 GMT -5
I kind of feel like people use "Charts aren't important" excuse only whenever an artist they like doesn't chart well or to their expectations. Live Forever never got to #1 (I don't think it even got close?) and that's the best song ever recorded, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, even though I think it deserved to be #1. Noel's albums always sell well, my only real expectation is that it goes to #1 simply because all of his past albums have. It's not an excuse to me at all man.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 18, 2015 16:47:55 GMT -5
I absolutely haven't got a clue what's currently #1 over here, neither in the singles chart nor in the album chart That's my point. It's nice when it's Noel's there but realistically it's redundant as nobody cares.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 16:49:16 GMT -5
I kind of feel like people use "Charts aren't important" excuse only whenever an artist they like doesn't chart well or to their expectations. Live Forever never got to #1 (I don't think it even got close?) and that's the best song ever recorded, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, even though I think it deserved to be #1. Noel's albums always sell well, my only real expectation is that it goes to #1 simply because all of his past albums have. It's not an excuse to me at all man. Wasn't Live Forever #10 or something? Also, not even Wonderwall got to #1 and that's Oasis' best selling single. And that song probably sold more than the whole top 5 at that point combined. It doesn't say much. Anway, times were different back then. And I also wanted to say something else but I forgot.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 18, 2015 16:53:19 GMT -5
Live Forever never got to #1 (I don't think it even got close?) and that's the best song ever recorded, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, even though I think it deserved to be #1. Noel's albums always sell well, my only real expectation is that it goes to #1 simply because all of his past albums have. It's not an excuse to me at all man. Wasn't Live Forever #10 or something? Also, not even Wonderwall got to #1 and that's Oasis' best selling single. And that song probably sold more than the whole top 5 at that point combined. It doesn't say much. Anway, times were different back then. And I also wanted to say something else but I forgot. So different and so unimportant to the point where it's a little bit wrong, it's the fast food, MP3, Rush rush, smart phone world that wants the quick fix, instant result rather than the journey.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 17:06:50 GMT -5
Live Forever never got to #1 (I don't think it even got close?) and that's the best song ever recorded, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, even though I think it deserved to be #1. Noel's albums always sell well, my only real expectation is that it goes to #1 simply because all of his past albums have. It's not an excuse to me at all man. Wasn't Live Forever #10 or something? Also, not even Wonderwall got to #1 and that's Oasis' best selling single. And that song probably sold more than the whole top 5 at that point combined. It doesn't say much. Anway, times were different back then. And I also wanted to say something else but I forgot. Apparently Madonna is at number 1 in the Dutch album charts and the number 1 single is Cheerleader by Omi. Live Forever did get to number 10 and then Cigarettes & Alcohol got to number 7. Wonderwall was beaten by, I think, either Robson and Jerome or Take That. But then Don't Look Back In Anger got to number 1 afterwards.
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 18, 2015 17:09:36 GMT -5
Oasis singles run is actually great. They Have a Guinness world record
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 17:26:16 GMT -5
Wasn't Live Forever #10 or something? Also, not even Wonderwall got to #1 and that's Oasis' best selling single. And that song probably sold more than the whole top 5 at that point combined. It doesn't say much. Anway, times were different back then. And I also wanted to say something else but I forgot. Apparently Madonna is at number 1 in the Dutch album charts and the number 1 single is Cheerleader by Omi. Live Forever did get to number 10 and then Cigarettes & Alcohol got to number 7. Wonderwall was beaten by, I think, either Robson and Jerome or Take That. But then Don't Look Back In Anger got to number 1 afterwards. What?! That song is still #1???
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 17:29:27 GMT -5
CY is currently #19. Will probably be out of the charts within a month or two.
And I didn't know Dutch people were actually aware of Steven Wilson. He's #8. Amazing. Not that I'm very familiar with his work or anything.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 18, 2015 17:44:29 GMT -5
CY is currently #19. Will probably be out of the charts within a month or two. And I didn't know Dutch people were actually aware of Steven Wilson. He's #8. Amazing. Not that I'm very familiar with his work or anything. #19 in the UK?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 17:49:50 GMT -5
CY is currently #19. Will probably be out of the charts within a month or two. And I didn't know Dutch people were actually aware of Steven Wilson. He's #8. Amazing. Not that I'm very familiar with his work or anything. #19 in the UK? No, Netherlands. Should've been more clear, sorry 'bout that.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 18, 2015 18:02:53 GMT -5
I kind of feel like people use "Charts aren't important" excuse only whenever an artist they like doesn't chart well or to their expectations. Not really. If you look at the HFB1 charting thread people got the same kind of pissy about paying attention to that charts and that album did way better than expected in the chart around most of the world and particularly in the UK which frankly is his most important market
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Post by vespa on Mar 18, 2015 18:46:13 GMT -5
The first album cost alot of money to produce so he chucked a large budget at it..the videos,tv,radio..it also helped he released it at xmas.It got him big sales in the uk, that album as allowed him to play arenas and headline festivals which is all he needs really.He also hasnt released a single in the usa ...wonder if dying of the light gets a worldwide release???
Id be curious to know just how many singles oasis sold worldwide especially wonderwall
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Post by Flayer on Mar 19, 2015 10:47:37 GMT -5
Oasis singles run is actually great. They Have a Guinness world record What record?
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 19, 2015 10:50:31 GMT -5
Oasis singles run is actually great. They Have a Guinness world record What record? "The band were listed in the Guinness World Records book in 2010 for “Longest Top 10 UK Chart Run by a Group” after an unprecedented run of 22 top 10 hits in the UK" and this as well "The band also holds the Guinness World Record for being the most successful act in the UK between the years 1995 and 2005, spending 765 weeks in the Top 75 singles and albums charts"
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Post by LlAM on Mar 19, 2015 10:52:32 GMT -5
So did Papa Noel win? Did he get no. 1?
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 19, 2015 10:55:52 GMT -5
why isnt this fucking thread called Charting Yesterday?
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 19, 2015 12:46:21 GMT -5
So did Papa Noel win? Did he get no. 1? The UK, yes. Everywhere else, no.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 19, 2015 13:01:49 GMT -5
So did Papa Noel win? Did he get no. 1? The UK, yes. Everywhere else, no. He also got number 1 in Ireland.
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Post by BEng on Mar 19, 2015 17:55:23 GMT -5
It's at #5 in Belgium. Pretty impressive, I can't remember the previous album or even more recent Oasis albums doing so well. The reason he's playing Club69 for Studio Brussels and gets a lot of promotion for it is probably helping a lot!
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