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Post by thomuk2006 on Mar 18, 2015 4:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 18, 2015 4:48:23 GMT -5
Oricon weekly #18 3,202 copies Why are Chasing Yesterday sales not good in Japan?
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Post by icebreath on Mar 18, 2015 5:05:14 GMT -5
Not charted in Greece. The debut album charted thirty-something in the first week of release, if i remember correctly. www.ifpi.gr/charts_el.html
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Post by spaneli on Mar 18, 2015 9:07:20 GMT -5
Oricon weekly #18 3,202 copies Why are Chasing Yesterday sales not good in Japan? Because he barely promoted there. Barring a couple interviews he did nothing there.
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Post by vespa on Mar 18, 2015 10:43:21 GMT -5
Promotion is all about budgets and i dont think noels put alot in and think hes just gonna let this sell itself...hes got to where he wants to be as a solo artist and is playing the venues he wants to..within the next few years that half a billion dollars offer will come in
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 18, 2015 11:11:38 GMT -5
#8 in the midweeks...I'd like it to stay another week after this one in the top 10 just to make it a month,but it will be tough
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 18, 2015 11:25:25 GMT -5
Yes, he's an indie artist on his own label. I don't think they can spend a lot of money. They just promoted the album in the only way possible: insulting people (which is always nice, I like it) and going on tv shows (you get paid, so that's ok).
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 18, 2015 11:29:04 GMT -5
He didn't even do many tv shows...I think he couldn't care less about promotion this time round,he's just letting it sell itself
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Post by spaneli on Mar 18, 2015 11:35:54 GMT -5
Yes, he's an indie artist on his own label. I don't think they can spend a lot of money. They just promoted the album in the only way possible: insulting people (which is always nice, I like it) and going on tv shows (you get paid, so that's ok). They were indie last album too. Them being indie really isn't an excuse.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 18, 2015 11:49:15 GMT -5
Yes, he's an indie artist on his own label. I don't think they can spend a lot of money. They just promoted the album in the only way possible: insulting people (which is always nice, I like it) and going on tv shows (you get paid, so that's ok). They were indie last album too. Them being indie really isn't an excuse. I guess they wanted to promote it that much cause it was his first solo effort,now it's like he doesn't really give a fuck
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 11:55:23 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 18, 2015 12:00:48 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. Yeah,at the end what matter is the music,but I'd like the album to do well
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 18, 2015 12:09:40 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. People said the same when BE sold poorly. "It doesn't matter...the album is good!". Look at the consequence of poor sales. If Noel sells badly in Japan for example, the probability of him playing there next time round will decrease, which is not good for fans in Japan. How else is Noel supposed to gauge demand or popularity in Japan? Sales do matter ultimately.
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Post by manoverboard365 on Mar 18, 2015 12:21:08 GMT -5
At this point in his career I dont think poor sales will effect where he tours. In America CY has been selling poorly, even for USA standards, yet I have no fear that we wont get a full US tour every couple of years.
Speaking of which, for those curious CY has only sold around 18,000 in two weeks here. Really sad.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Mar 18, 2015 12:26:36 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. Fuck off out the thread then.
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 18, 2015 12:28:04 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. People said the same when BE sold poorly. "It doesn't matter...the album is good!". Look at the consequence of poor sales. If Noel sells badly in Japan for example, the probability of him playing there next time round will decrease, which is not good for fans in Japan. How else is Noel supposed to gauge demand or popularity in Japan? Sales do matter ultimately. This not really true if his gigs don't sell out then he'll be less likely to play in Japan in the future. Just as in the UK if the arenas didn't sell out he'd go back to academy type venues. If he doesn't sell out certain venues in Asia it's not worth the logistics / money to go there. Id say if leg 2 tour doesn't sell well he might think twice but it won't be records sales driven. industry / money been about tours and merch for years
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2015 12:58:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but what makes people go to those tours? Right, albums.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 18, 2015 12:59:54 GMT -5
No offense or disrespect intended to anybody, but I just don't see why people care where he is in the charts? The charts mean jack shit really, and as long as we all have the music I don't see why people are actually concerned by for example, Noel dropping from #1 to #4. Usually, I'd agree, but the first week of a new album is different. Noel has had an amazing run of #1 albums and it's definitely important for him that it continued with this one.
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 18, 2015 13:14:48 GMT -5
Yeah, but what makes people go to those tours? Right, albums. Thats a reason for artists go on tour. (tho not even always the case) Nearly all the dates so far were released before the album came out by (by 4-5 months) Noel said himself as long as an album sells enough copies to cover the cost of recording it, he makes money of the tour (which goes hand in hand with what the whole industry been saying not loads of money in albums, the monies in touring) Using record sales as logic to touring that'll mean potentially the UK tour for album 3 will be 1/2 that of of CY . i doubt it. Album sales don't dictate live demand. I would say Noel used HFB to guage the markets worth marketing or not (i.e. why he didn't market US and Asia this time as they sold 150k copies between them) tho all live dates doing just as well ticket sales wise.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 18, 2015 14:08:07 GMT -5
Crazy thread this one, conversation fine, it's a forum, but it's the ones who are genuinely worried or get angry about someone's album sales, it doesn't matter!! Noel will always sell, No1 here, doing well in Europe, the album is terrific, he'll no doubt sell more in the summer too after festival appearances but if he doesn't so what. Beiber sells millions of albums!!
End of day from fans and people who have heard the album the large majority think CY is brilliant and that's what matters not sales to a load of morons who have One Direction in their collection.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 18, 2015 14:36:03 GMT -5
Crazy thread this one, conversation fine, it's a forum, but it's the ones who are genuinely worried or get angry about someone's album sales, it doesn't matter!! Noel will always sell, No1 here, doing well in Europe, the album is terrific, he'll no doubt sell more in the summer too after festival appearances but if he doesn't so what. Beiber sells millions of albums!! End of day from fans and people who have heard the album the large majority think CY is brilliant and that's what matters not sales to a load of morons who have One Direction in their collection. As a fan though, you always want your favourite act to sell well and be liked by everyone. I also don't believe for one minute that Noel doesn't care about how many the album and recognition for his work, he would still love to be selling millions of records.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 18, 2015 14:42:01 GMT -5
Crazy thread this one, conversation fine, it's a forum, but it's the ones who are genuinely worried or get angry about someone's album sales, it doesn't matter!! Noel will always sell, No1 here, doing well in Europe, the album is terrific, he'll no doubt sell more in the summer too after festival appearances but if he doesn't so what. Beiber sells millions of albums!! End of day from fans and people who have heard the album the large majority think CY is brilliant and that's what matters not sales to a load of morons who have One Direction in their collection. As a fan though, you always want your favourite act to sell well and be liked by everyone. I also don't believe for one minute that Noel doesn't care about how many the album and recognition for his work, he would still love to be selling millions of records. Personally don't care if everyone likes Noel or not, more & more people hated Oasis after 1998, so what. As a fan I want Noel to be writing top music and he is. I doubt Noel cares about sales now, he's sold f loads of records already, he's done the stadium tours etc, I don't know the man but I'm sure he is more bothered that his fans appreciate his music.
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 18, 2015 14:45:31 GMT -5
what about those vaginas who are concerned about people being concerned
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Mar 18, 2015 15:15:58 GMT -5
As a fan though, you always want your favourite act to sell well and be liked by everyone. I also don't believe for one minute that Noel doesn't care about how many the album and recognition for his work, he would still love to be selling millions of records. Personally don't care if everyone likes Noel or not, more & more people hated Oasis after 1998, so what. As a fan I want Noel to be writing top music and he is. I doubt Noel cares about sales now, he's sold f loads of records already, he's done the stadium tours etc, I don't know the man but I'm sure he is more bothered that his fans appreciate his music. Agree totally. I don't really care about charts and not bothered by singles either. It's more about Live and touring...that's where the money is these days anyway. I see noel multiple times a tour and that's what matters to me
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Post by Ltrain on Mar 18, 2015 15:24:48 GMT -5
At this point in his career I dont think poor sales will effect where he tours. In America CY has been selling poorly, even for USA standards, yet I have no fear that we wont get a full US tour every couple of years. Speaking of which, for those curious CY has only sold around 18,000 in two weeks here. Really sad. No promotion here at all. I still haven't heard any of singles on the radio in my area. If his songs got played more here he would obviously do better. The songs are catchy and most people love a good melody. Now, I don't know if it's the radio station that picks what to play or if you have to pay them to get yourself played. The radio still has a big influence.
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