|
Post by derektrotter on Oct 25, 2014 15:51:48 GMT -5
sad...
|
|
squire
Oasis Roadie
![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png)
This old town don't smell too pretty
Posts: 348
|
Post by squire on Oct 25, 2014 15:56:23 GMT -5
lol these idiots clamoring for an Oasis reunion. Do they not realize that even if Noel was up for it he still has an album to release and at least a year's worth of touring to do?
|
|
|
Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 15:56:59 GMT -5
Liam and Noel's self titled debut album for 2018. Attachments:![](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/thumbnailer/uYL_Byz4rQtAlCsfkPIS.jpg)
|
|
|
Post by footballdropout on Oct 25, 2014 15:57:42 GMT -5
I guess for nostalgia then yes. For those who haven't seen them I can see why ,,,and I would love to see them only ONE MORE TIME FOR THE NOSTAGILIA. but to me then getting back would be like going back out with your high school girl , only now she ain't 17. More like 50. Pass I was there when oasis were ..well the high school prom queen , I wouldn't mind seeing that prom queen and dancing one more time with her , but to date again ? No .....thsts what a reunion of full blown proportion would be , tjat unbelivable period can't be recaptured. Just like yourh can't. But I'll alwas be Madferit As I said one last time but not a true reformation the magic won't be there , like it wasn't for the last tour Lennon2217 seen them thru the years too , the spark was gone That's a beautifully sad analogy, kalas. Completely changed my mind regarding the reunion.
|
|
|
Post by Kirk Lazarus on Oct 25, 2014 16:06:54 GMT -5
I wanna see Liam in an outfit like this, made by Pretty Green, singing #1 hits and fucking side chicks like the King. ![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/WinterBush/imagejpg1_zps07f798b2.jpg) God bless.
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 16:09:53 GMT -5
lol these idiots clamoring for an Oasis reunion. Do they not realize that even if Noel was up for it he still has an album to release and at least a year's worth of touring to do? Exactly. Oasis reunion stories drive me nuts. Do the math people. Noel is going to be very busy well into 2016. Then it's his usual 2-3 year break.
|
|
rebus
Oasis Roadie
![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png)
Posts: 418
|
Post by rebus on Oct 25, 2014 16:11:30 GMT -5
The band was a reality check for them. Maybe one they needed. They saw that they could only attract the core fanbase, the large amount of which, in the UK at least, was Pretty Green disciple lads with Liam haircuts and behaving like hooligans. Critically they were laughable, derided by nearly every respected publication. Like it or not, that counts for a lot. Sales-wise, they had a spike initially because of the Oasis interest, but nothing sustained. The biggest gigs they could realistically play were large theatres, which is a huge comedown after playing 3 nights at Wembley stadium on the last Oasis tour. The second album was a disaster in terms of promotion, some unfortunate timing of life changing events of people in the band (Liam paternity case/divorce, Gem's accident), and they could never get that momentum back after the initial build up to the album. Most of the songs that were released were average at best, sadly. They were derivative to the point of being a 60's tribute act. They took a lot of the bad parts of latter-day Oasis and played on that. It'll be interesting to see what Liam does next. Not sure if he'll get back into music for a while. Hope then best for him, obviously. Agree with every word.
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 16:11:57 GMT -5
I wanna see Liam in an outfit like this, made by Pretty Green, singing #1 hits and fucking side chicks like the King. ![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/WinterBush/imagejpg1_zps07f798b2.jpg) God bless. As long as he doesn't go Syd Barrett on us. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) ![](http://i.imgur.com/PoFc4hp.png)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 16:12:28 GMT -5
For those who haven't seen them I can see why ,,,and I would love to see them only ONE MORE TIME FOR THE NOSTAGILIA. but to me then getting back would be like going back out with your high school girl , only now she ain't 17. More like 50. Pass I was there when oasis were ..well the high school prom queen , I wouldn't mind seeing that prom queen and dancing one more time with her , but to date again ? No .....thsts what a reunion of full blown proportion would be , tjat unbelivable period can't be recaptured. Just like yourh can't. But I'll alwas be Madferit As I said one last time but not a true reformation the magic won't be there , like it wasn't for the last tour Lennon2217 seen them thru the years too , the spark was gone That's a beautifully sad analogy, kalas. Completely changed my mind regarding the reunion. Thanks man , I dont like typing that , but it's true , there like 20 years removed from there youth and GANG mentality , to me it would be a money grab , and I just don't see liam and noel coming onto city of Manchester in man city kits anymore ,that's my OASIS IN MY MIND I was there and it was magic , the kind that can only let you down 20 years later ....much like the prom queen. Cheers mate Appreciatte the words
|
|
|
Post by jaq515 on Oct 25, 2014 16:14:59 GMT -5
im not sure what relevance u.s setlist have to anything? You know as a fan that noel has played IGTBF, TT, HTWA at least at 3 TCT gigs, the STC acoustic tour, and many Uk and Jap gigs so for him to play those (and other songs he played often with oasis) isn't pushing himself as a live artist. Noel had 13-15 HFB songs, and then another 18 track AA album finished, which he could've taken other songs from, not just Freaky Teeth, then pulled out some oasis live rarities than would've pushed himself as an live artist not playing songs he done many many times before. I didn't mention BDI but they toured a whole album cycle with only their material so whether people like, hated, disgusted they did do beaten path oasis songs and whether you hate BE as an album on cycle two, it was defo them moving forward. They pushed themselves more than we've seen from noel thus far When did I say Noel was pushing himself live by playing Oasis songs? I want him to play even less. All I said was if he was going to play Oasis songs, those were rare gems to me and any U.S. fans. Like i say rare oasis songs he's not played as an artist AMAZING he'd never played Idlers dream or Angel child live so big respect for him to do so that is moving forward. When you complain about oasis playing greatest hits sets / the same songs then thats ok as an average american wouldn't have seen oasis 11 times, maybe once as they were irrelevant in the u.s after '97 Just cos you / america not seen him play those songs many times doesn't mean he's pushing himself as he played them for years? That was one of the reason you said they oasis werent pushing themselves wasn't it? greatest hits / going through motion which noel was doing by doing the exact same songs he done many many times over which gets stale real fast and is uninspired??
|
|
|
Post by Cast on Oct 25, 2014 16:15:23 GMT -5
I don't want an Oasis reunion. At least not yet and I'd be content if they never fully reformed. A one off here and there would be alright. I miss Noel penned songs sung by Liam but era's come to a close.
A lot of the older posters on here are talking about later day Oasis and just how boring the shows were. Yeah I get that they aren't up to par with their glory days. Shit I'd love to have seen Oasis in 1994 at a small club. Hell I've even played on the same stage/venue which Oasis played at in 1994, Cat's Cradle in carrboro nc. Those intimate gigs would have been something to kill for. I would have loved to seen them play arenas in their prime 95-98. The Gigs at Earls Court, Maine Road, and all the other boots I got from that era are outstanding. From the video's I've seen they were one of the best live rock n' roll bands ever during their prime.
That said I was much too young to enjoy Oasis in their prime. I'm 22 and I was lucky enough to catch Oasis at their last US show ever on 20 December 2008 in Fairfax at the Patriot Center. I was 16 at the time and I knew they weren't in their prime/the band was going thru the motions but they still blew me away. That's the thing you older folks might not understand. They're aren't many rock bands like Oasis anymore and even when they were going through the motions they were still better than a lot of bands.
I get that they were half assing it most of the time but I saw glimpses of what them the band that they were. Sad I didn't see them in their prime but I'm lucky to have caught them live. It has been 5 years since they broke up and a newer generation is getting into them. It sucks that they might not ever get to see them because no band has really replaced Oasis in terms of meaning something to people. Oasis half heartedly playing could still inspire and that's a rare quality to have.
I'll never get the chance to see many of my favorite acts and that's just the way it is. Maybe it'll be like that with Oasis but a part of me hopes that they'll at least do some live gigs at some point.
|
|
|
Post by gretschdrummer1000 on Oct 25, 2014 16:15:50 GMT -5
Look, I couldn't care less whether Oasis reforms or not. But calling people idiots for wanting something like that is silly. Noel and Liam aren't exactly in their prime anymore, and getting back together wouldn't be the least sensible thing to do.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 16:18:48 GMT -5
Just Noel's comment we are getting along ,,,,,,well as good as we can.be. Tells you yea they may watch a city match or talk city , but at this point in NOELS life he don't need or want a circus , why i say a one off in a few years is most logical m then back to solo and people got what they wanted
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 16:18:58 GMT -5
When did I say Noel was pushing himself live by playing Oasis songs? I want him to play even less. All I said was if he was going to play Oasis songs, those were rare gems to me and any U.S. fans. Like i say rare oasis songs he's not played as an artist AMAZING he'd never played Idlers dream or Angel child live so big respect for him to do so that is moving forward. When you complain about oasis playing greatest hits sets / the same songs then thats ok as an average american wouldn't have seen oasis 11 times, maybe once as they were irrelevant in the u.s after '97 Just cos you / america not seen him play those songs many times doesn't mean he's pushing himself as he played them for years? That was one of the reason you said they oasis werent pushing themselves wasn't it? greatest hits / going through motion which noel was doing by doing the exact same songs he done many many times over which gets stale real fast and is uninspired?? Again.....I never said playing Oasis songs was pushing himself. I also was referencing the albums being made as uninspired. Noel's last record felt more alive than anything he did In over a decade.
|
|
|
Post by NYR on Oct 25, 2014 16:20:04 GMT -5
Well, can't say we didn't see this coming.
I think the band were doomed from the start. Firstly, you can't take victory laps from the get go. If you proclaim to be a brand new band that's completely separate from Oasis, you have to start all over again, not play Oasis songs on tours or at the friggin London Olympics. The second album was a step in the right direction, but by that time, they burned too many bridges within the industry. No producer wanted to work with them after scaring off Steve Lillywhite, one of the best producers of the last thirty years, when working on their first album. They were lucky enough to get Dave Sitek to work on BE—and he did a fantastic job on that—but no amount of production magic can fix mediocre songs. Add terrible management, Gem's injuries and the lack of promotion worldwide to the mix and you've got yourself a pretty lethal combination. It just wasn't meant to be.
|
|
|
Post by matt on Oct 25, 2014 16:20:23 GMT -5
The band was a reality check for them. Maybe one they needed. They saw that they could only attract the core fanbase, the large amount of which, in the UK at least, was Pretty Green disciple lads with Liam haircuts and behaving like hooligans. Critically they were laughable, derided by nearly every respected publication. Like it or not, that counts for a lot. Sales-wise, they had a spike initially because of the Oasis interest, but nothing sustained. The biggest gigs they could realistically play were large theatres, which is a huge comedown after playing 3 nights at Wembley stadium on the last Oasis tour. The second album was a disaster in terms of promotion, some unfortunate timing of life changing events of people in the band (Liam paternity case/divorce, Gem's accident), and they could never get that momentum back after the initial build up to the album. Most of the songs that were released were average at best, sadly. They were derivative to the point of being a 60's tribute act. They took a lot of the bad parts of latter-day Oasis and played on that. It'll be interesting to see what Liam does next. Not sure if he'll get back into music for a while. Hope the best for him, obviously.Agree with every word as well, I think its for the best they've split up because lets face it, they were incredibly old-fashioned to the point of parody. I hope they see this as an opportunity to spread their wings.
|
|
|
Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 16:20:31 GMT -5
lol these idiots clamoring for an Oasis reunion. Do they not realize that even if Noel was up for it he still has an album to release and at least a year's worth of touring to do? Yes, everyone realizes that.
|
|
|
Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 16:22:26 GMT -5
Look, I couldn't care less whether Oasis reforms or not. But calling people idiots for wanting something like that is silly. Noel and Liam aren't exactly in their prime anymore, and getting back together wouldn't be the least sensible thing to do. Agreed with this. I'd like a reform years down the line maybe 10 years from now, but if it never happens, I won't be that bothered. But insulting people because they do happen to hope for a reunion, either imminently or down the line is indeed silly.
|
|
|
Post by scott1 on Oct 25, 2014 16:25:10 GMT -5
lol these idiots clamoring for an Oasis reunion. Do they not realize that even if Noel was up for it he still has an album to release and at least a year's worth of touring to do? Exactly. Oasis reunion stories drive me nuts. Do the math people. Noel is going to be very busy well into 2016. Then it's his usual 2-3 year break. Slow down Lennon, these stories are completely 100% factual and in no way based entirely off a so-called "source" who probably has a back catalogue of petty crimes and unfiltered bullshit stories.... Anyway you make a good point. I had a not entirely sober thought a while back now. I think I may even have made a thread on it, and you've sort of pointed to it here - 2020 would be the earliest that Noel returns from post tour hibernation, and while that may be a while off, it's more realistic than these tabloid rumours. I think the late philosophers, Beady Eye, summed this up best - "A 2020 visionary would never waste a single day." ( Beady Eye, 2013)
|
|
|
Post by jaq515 on Oct 25, 2014 16:28:20 GMT -5
Like i say rare oasis songs he's not played as an artist AMAZING he'd never played Idlers dream or Angel child live so big respect for him to do so that is moving forward. When you complain about oasis playing greatest hits sets / the same songs then thats ok as an average american wouldn't have seen oasis 11 times, maybe once as they were irrelevant in the u.s after '97 Just cos you / america not seen him play those songs many times doesn't mean he's pushing himself as he played them for years? That was one of the reason you said they oasis werent pushing themselves wasn't it? greatest hits / going through motion which noel was doing by doing the exact same songs he done many many times over which gets stale real fast and is uninspired?? Again.....I never said playing Oasis songs was pushing himself. I also was referencing the albums being made as uninspired. Noel's last record felt more alive than anything he did I'm over a decade. Yes I'm not saying you said that obv i need to spell it out to you. You was saying you like bands to grow and push themselves which when noel had 13-15 brand new HFB songs, 18 tracks to choose from AA album not just Freaky Teeth and have a choice of maybe 50 oasis song's to either debut live or rework etc he choose to play maybe 7-8 of the exact same songs he's played many times over wasn't pushing himself? Im not saying HFB isn't a step in the right direction but it really wasn't him 'pushing himself' maybe the odd track or the odd parts of songs but music very personal so if it floated your boat cool
|
|
squire
Oasis Roadie
![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png)
This old town don't smell too pretty
Posts: 348
|
Post by squire on Oct 25, 2014 16:29:42 GMT -5
Ok, maybe idiots was a bit harsh. It's simply frustrating to me that people act like Noel's solo career isn't even an issue.
Oasis changed my life and there's little I wouldn't do to see Noel and Liam on stage together, but I'm not so thickheaded as to imagine BDI breaking up will bring me any closer to that dream. Be realistic people!
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 16:33:22 GMT -5
Again.....I never said playing Oasis songs was pushing himself. I also was referencing the albums being made as uninspired. Noel's last record felt more alive than anything he did I'm over a decade. yes I'm not saying you said that obv i need to spell it out that you. You was saying you like bands to grow and push themselves which when noel had 13-15 brand new HFB songs, 18 tracks to choose from AA album not just Freaky Teeth and have a choice of maybe 50 oasis song's to either debut live or rework etc he choose to play maybe 7-8 of the exact same songs he's played many times over wasn't pushing himself? Im not saying HFB isn't a step in the right direction but it really wasn't him 'pushing himself' maybe the odd track or the odd parts of songs but music very personal so if it floated you boat Well for me and a lot of other forum members/fans it was a refreshing, rewarding listen. An album consisting of all Noel penned songs is something I've been missing for a long long time. Noel went in saying he was going to play a handful of Oasis tracks on his first go around. I'm fine if he plays zero and I'd expect 2-3 on the upcoming tour however it could be 3-5. Who knows. In my opinion, things are more exciting regarding Noel than at any point between 2001-2008.
|
|
nghfbs
Oasis Roadie
![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/oF6zNWfTdPh0D1tLn24N.png)
Posts: 252
|
Post by nghfbs on Oct 25, 2014 16:36:05 GMT -5
….somewhere in my heart the beat goes on…
RIP BE.
|
|
|
Post by bestwick8 on Oct 25, 2014 16:36:41 GMT -5
I said it almost two years ago. Once Beady Eye started playing Noel written Oasis songs it would be their doom. To me that was a desperation play and it cheapened their potential product in the end. I'd much rather they forge their own path with their own songs. It only gives more credibility to their new identity. They could've at least played oasis songs they wrote.
|
|
|
Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 25, 2014 16:37:37 GMT -5
Not surprising, to be honest. I wonder what the reason behind it is, though. Don't know if this makes an Oasis reunion more or less likely: On one hand, their project is over and now - barring any additional developments - are available. Just have to wait for after Noel's second album and consequential tour - leading to a possible reformation late 2016 or 2017. But, and this is what I fear is the likelier scenario, LAG will go their separate ways. They'll remain mates, to be sure, but each will devolve into their own lives. I always, always, always (I can't stress this point enough), that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. All they needed to do was convince Noel - a tall order, of course, but manageable. Now, with the split, it will take even more to rally each individual troop for the cause. And that, is the real shame of today's BDI split, for me. I want my Oasis back, god damn it. Failing that, Gem to Noel indeed. I do really like Gem. I don't think this split got us any closer to Oasis reunion. Now it takes two collapsed bands to reunite under one name really. It sounds irrational but this whole situation is really unusual. The chemistry there would be sick. Seeing them now all together, would be really weird for me. I don't know, laws of physics just don't go along with it.
|
|