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Post by scott1 on Oct 25, 2014 15:08:36 GMT -5
Some may say it was inevitable, nevertheless I'm genuinely sad to hear that Beady Eye are no more.
I actually liked most of the tunes, and the excitement and lead up to BE was a great time to be a fan and a great time to be on this forum.
As for what's next, I hope Liam takes this period and lets himself have some hindsight on the last two albums (the second came pretty quickly after the first) and settles himself. Andy said somewhere that he's spoken to former Ride members, we may see something related to that. A lot of people are backing Gem to hand himself over to Noel - I can't see it happening just yet but you never know.
Anyway, once again, not nice news.
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2014 15:08:53 GMT -5
Not surprising, to be honest. I wonder what the reason behind it is, though. Don't know if this makes an Oasis reunion more or less likely: On one hand, their project is over and now - barring any additional developments - are available. Just have to wait for after Noel's second album and consequential tour - leading to a possible reformation late 2016 or 2017. But, and this is what I fear is the likelier scenario, LAG will go their separate ways. They'll remain mates, to be sure, but each will devolve into their own lives. I always, always, always (I can't stress this point enough), that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. All they needed to do was convince Noel - a tall order, of course, but manageable. Now, with the split, it will take even more to rally each individual troop for the cause. And that, is the real shame of today's BDI split, for me. I want my Oasis back, god damn it. Failing that, Gem to Noel indeed. I do really like Gem. I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:11:32 GMT -5
Not surprising, to be honest. I wonder what the reason behind it is, though. Don't know if this makes an Oasis reunion more or less likely: On one hand, their project is over and now - barring any additional developments - are available. Just have to wait for after Noel's second album and consequential tour - leading to a possible reformation late 2016 or 2017. But, and this is what I fear is the likelier scenario, LAG will go their separate ways. They'll remain mates, to be sure, but each will devolve into their own lives. I always, always, always (I can't stress this point enough), that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. All they needed to do was convince Noel - a tall order, of course, but manageable. Now, with the split, it will take even more to rally each individual troop for the cause. And that, is the real shame of today's BDI split, for me. I want my Oasis back, god damn it. Failing that, Gem to Noel indeed. I do really like Gem. I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. And the Oasis he wanted back wasn't even the truest former of Oasis which featured Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. |
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Post by losingmyhead on Oct 25, 2014 15:14:24 GMT -5
Maybe now people will find out that Andy Bell is just a hologram.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:14:59 GMT -5
If HFB was uneven then everything Oasis released between 2000 and 2008 is utter shit. That is the strongest Gallagher release since BHN in my opinion. Noel can play his older songs because 1) he is a solo act, not a band forging a new "identify" 2) he wrote all those songs. It's something totally different when you wrote them vs just the singer on them. 3) the highlights on that tour weren't Oasis songs. i dont understand the reasoning behind oasis getting boring playing greatest hits tour after tour and then noel carried it on that tour ploughing out master plan,talk tonight, its good to be free, don't look back in anger, its good to be free, wonderwall, slideaway or the millionth time if moving forward or pushing himself When he pulled out some of the rarer songs was a different story however Also via crowd reactions i'd 100% guarantee you 95% of the audience the oasis songs were the highlights for them (60% of the time that stat works everytime) I am sure this tour will be different now he has more material edit: obv the post above we both read it meaning that. My point is not playing oasis songs but playing the exact songs he been playing forever. (except few times when he did pull out a gem) Well Noel has only toured once solo. Let's see what he does next time out. I'd expect less oasis songs. Plus many of the oasis song he did play were not often featured in Oasis sets (It's good to be free, talk tonight, half the world away, etc). Those weren played in America for example in 20 years. Meanwhile Oasis always played the same songs like rock n roll star, cigs and alcohol, morning glory, wonderwall, etc. those also happened to be the same exact songs beady eye would play. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 25, 2014 15:15:16 GMT -5
Let's hope Noel will pull out a Gem on the next tour. Ha.
Badum tss!
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 25, 2014 15:15:39 GMT -5
Noel should ditch HFB after this album and team up with Liam. Their new project should be called and with a self titled debut "Gallagher".
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Post by longwaytorun on Oct 25, 2014 15:17:28 GMT -5
I would never support an Oasis reunion unless Liam gets serious and fixes his voice. I mean the band was great live, but Liam just ruined it. He was ok for 2 weeks and then he started straining and ruined the whole experience.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 15:19:34 GMT -5
Liam should came out with acoustic album do a songs like songbird or earlier bob dylan
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Post by simmo on Oct 25, 2014 15:21:23 GMT -5
Liam should team up with Richard Ashcroft and do a joint album and tour together.
Best idea ever, right?
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Post by nghfbs on Oct 25, 2014 15:23:58 GMT -5
Sad news. I know I'm in the minority but I really liked DGSS…I'd put "The Roller" and "Beat Goes On" up against anything post-Be Here Now.
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Post by icebreath on Oct 25, 2014 15:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by Regi on Oct 25, 2014 15:26:38 GMT -5
Pretty gutted to be honest. I really enjoyed BE, and was looking forward to a third album. Saw them live 3 times and they were all cracking gigs.
To me a lot of people never entertained Beady Eye because it was Liam Gallager. Still seeing that now in some of vitriolic comments. I also think they were very poorly managed/promoted from the get go.
Noel Gallagher left Oasis - his decision. You have got the solo stuff you wanted, and claim to be enjoying, yet some people seem to be snide as fuck and gloating at the end of Beady Eye for some reason. Quite perverse.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:28:46 GMT -5
To be fair, Pitchfork only just today mentioned Noel's new album and single. Not sure why it had to be tied to the announcement of Beady Eye's demise. It is what it is I suppose. |
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Post by nutsngum on Oct 25, 2014 15:28:54 GMT -5
The band was a reality check for them. Maybe one they needed. They saw that they could only attract the core fanbase, the large amount of which, in the UK at least, was Pretty Green disciple lads with Liam haircuts and behaving like hooligans.
Critically they were laughable, derided by nearly every respected publication. Like it or not, that counts for a lot.
Sales-wise, they had a spike initially because of the Oasis interest, but nothing sustained. The biggest gigs they could realistically play were large theatres, which is a huge comedown after playing 3 nights at Wembley stadium on the last Oasis tour. The second album was a disaster in terms of promotion, some unfortunate timing of life changing events of people in the band (Liam paternity case/divorce, Gem's accident), and they could never get that momentum back after the initial build up to the album.
Most of the songs that were released were average at best, sadly. They were derivative to the point of being a 60's tribute act. They took a lot of the bad parts of latter-day Oasis and played on that.
It'll be interesting to see what Liam does next. Not sure if he'll get back into music for a while. Hope the best for him, obviously.
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Post by gretschdrummer1000 on Oct 25, 2014 15:34:35 GMT -5
I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. And the Oasis he wanted back wasn't even the truest former of Oasis which featured Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Because people want to see their favorite band reform and play shows again? Nothing wrong with that. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:39:50 GMT -5
And the Oasis he wanted back wasn't even the truest former of Oasis which featured Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Because people want to see their favorite band reform and play shows again? Nothing wrong with that. I guess for nostalgia then yes. |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 15:42:51 GMT -5
Not surprising, to be honest. I wonder what the reason behind it is, though. Don't know if this makes an Oasis reunion more or less likely: On one hand, their project is over and now - barring any additional developments - are available. Just have to wait for after Noel's second album and consequential tour - leading to a possible reformation late 2016 or 2017. But, and this is what I fear is the likelier scenario, LAG will go their separate ways. They'll remain mates, to be sure, but each will devolve into their own lives. I always, always, always (I can't stress this point enough), that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. All they needed to do was convince Noel - a tall order, of course, but manageable. Now, with the split, it will take even more to rally each individual troop for the cause. And that, is the real shame of today's BDI split, for me. I want my Oasis back, god damn it. Failing that, Gem to Noel indeed. I do really like Gem. I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. Well, the obvious argument would be that Oasis, even on their last tour, released better albums and did better gigs than BE or NGHFB. Not everyone believes this, but it's not exactly unthinkable that some people might. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 15:44:40 GMT -5
I don't think there will be many calling for a reunion of this musical disaster.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 15:45:41 GMT -5
Because people want to see their favorite band reform and play shows again? Nothing wrong with that. I guess for nostalgia then yes. For those who haven't seen them I can see why ,,,and I would love to see them only ONE MORE TIME FOR THE NOSTAGILIA. but to me then getting back would be like going back out with your high school girl , only now she ain't 17. More like 50. Pass I was there when oasis were ..well the high school prom queen , I wouldn't mind seeing that prom queen and dancing one more time with her , but to date again ? No .....thsts what a reunion of full blown proportion would be , tjat unbelivable period can't be recaptured. Just like yourh can't. But I'll alwas be Madferit As I said one last time but not a true reformation the magic won't be there , like it wasn't for the last tour Lennon2217 seen them thru the years too , the spark was gone |
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 25, 2014 15:48:39 GMT -5
i dont understand the reasoning behind oasis getting boring playing greatest hits tour after tour and then noel carried it on that tour ploughing out master plan,talk tonight, its good to be free, don't look back in anger, its good to be free, wonderwall, slideaway or the millionth time if moving forward or pushing himself When he pulled out some of the rarer songs was a different story however Also via crowd reactions i'd 100% guarantee you 95% of the audience the oasis songs were the highlights for them (60% of the time that stat works everytime) I am sure this tour will be different now he has more material edit: obv the post above we both read it meaning that. My point is not playing oasis songs but playing the exact songs he been playing forever. (except few times when he did pull out a gem) Well Noel has only toured once solo. Let's see what he does next time out. I'd expect less oasis songs. Plus many of the oasis song he did play were not often featured in Oasis sets (It's good to be free, talk tonight, half the world away, etc). Those weren played in America for example in 20 years. Meanwhile Oasis always played the same songs like rock n roll star, cigs and alcohol, morning glory, wonderwall, etc. those also happened to be the same exact songs beady eye would play. im not sure what relevance u.s setlist have to anything? You know as a fan that noel has played IGTBF, TT, HTWA at least at 3 TCT gigs, the STC acoustic tour, and many Uk and Jap gigs so for him to play those (and other songs he played often with oasis) isn't pushing himself as a live artist. Noel had 13-15 HFB songs, and then another 18 track AA album finished, which he could've taken other songs from, not just Freaky Teeth, then pulled out some oasis live rarities than would've pushed himself as an live artist not playing songs he done many many times before. I didn't mention BDI but they toured a whole album cycle with only their material so whether people like, hated, disgusted they did do beaten path oasis songs and whether you hate BE as an album on cycle two, it was defo them moving forward. They pushed themselves more than we've seen from noel thus far |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:48:41 GMT -5
I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. Well, the obvious argument would be that Oasis, even on their last tour, released better albums and did better gigs than BE or NGHFB. Not everyone believes this, but it's not exactly unthinkable that some people might. Dig Out Your Soul was almos a smashing success. |
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Post by longwaytorun on Oct 25, 2014 15:49:19 GMT -5
Liam should join The Ringo Starr All Star Band
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2014 15:50:01 GMT -5
Because people want to see their favorite band reform and play shows again? Nothing wrong with that. I guess for nostalgia then yes. Exactly - so sentimental reasons, not rational at all. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 15:50:58 GMT -5
Well Noel has only toured once solo. Let's see what he does next time out. I'd expect less oasis songs. Plus many of the oasis song he did play were not often featured in Oasis sets (It's good to be free, talk tonight, half the world away, etc). Those weren played in America for example in 20 years. Meanwhile Oasis always played the same songs like rock n roll star, cigs and alcohol, morning glory, wonderwall, etc. those also happened to be the same exact songs beady eye would play. im not sure what relevance u.s setlist have to anything? You know as a fan that noel has played IGTBF, TT, HTWA at least at 3 TCT gigs, the STC acoustic tour, and many Uk and Jap gigs so for him to play those (and other songs he played often with oasis) isn't pushing himself as a live artist. Noel had 13-15 HFB songs, and then another 18 track AA album finished, which he could've taken other songs from, not just Freaky Teeth, then pulled out some oasis live rarities than would've pushed himself as an live artist not playing songs he done many many times before. I didn't mention BDI but they toured a whole album cycle with only their material so whether people like, hated, disgusted they did do beaten path oasis songs and whether you hate BE as an album on cycle two, it was defo them moving forward. They pushed themselves more than we've seen from noel thus far When did I say Noel was pushing himself live by playing Oasis songs? I want him to play even less. All I said was if he was going to play Oasis songs, those were rare gems to me and any U.S. fans. |
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